tripod said:
Well... I didn't call her a bitch,I just made a joke at her expense. She was at a dinner about three years ago and was telling a joke and said, "Ghandi...you all know Ghandi right? He owns a convenience store around the corner!" She thought she was being funny and she was being an ASS. She has never apologized for voting for the war and has made it clear to the establishment and military industrial complex that there she would surely bomb as many foreigners as they could round up. I know that's an exaggeration, but she is falling prey to the same double standard that Margaret Thatcher fell to in the 80's. She is overcompensating for being seen as weak by the other male assholes in Washington and has inturn outdone all of them with her hawkish stances. I love women and think men are, for the most part, fairly ridiculous. I thought that she would never get the nomination and it looks like it is hers for the taking (she has more money than any other democrat). I just think she is cold and abrasive, but a way better person than Condolice Rice. I hope that clears up my stance on Hillary, don't want to piss off the great Madame Zora because reading her posts, we have VERY similar positions on just about everything. So, I am making mysekf clear and waving the white flag.
You guuuuuuys, you worry too much, I only asked for clarification.:tongue: Thanks for explaining why you feel the way you do, I just wondered. I haven't met too many men who like her, and I usually wonder why. She's not exactly my hero, but she's better than many. I'd still prefer Gore.
Hell, I tell Gandhi jokes (Get your Gandhi bars here), but then again I AM Indian. He was just a guy- he did a lot of good, but there are even quite a few Indians who don't like him much. Some are angry that he didn't do away with the Caste system when he could have, but at least he did speak often about the need to stop classifying the lowest caste "untouchable". It sounds grotesque, but it was progress for the time. I think what he did was remarkable, but he's hardly "untouchable" in the land of jokes, nor is anyone else (including Jesus, and I like him a great deal too).
The war. I believe her stance is that she resents being lied to, but based on the facts as they were presented at the time, she made the best decision she could. I believe she has said that she wouldn't make the same decision now, but that hardly matters since we ARE there and pulling out quickly could cause Iraq to plunge into a bloodier civil war that what our occupation is causing.
I have not studied military strategy to any respectable degree, so I can neither agree nor disagree with that from a military standpoint, but as a personal opinion I want us to get the fuck out of there asap. I think she's making the same mistake the dems have made in the last two elections, trying to pose herself as a centrist (which she really is) when what might work better is offering the people an
alternative rather than a lesser of two evils
. She's not my first choice, but I'll vote for her if she wins the dem nomination. Thanks for indulging me.