Do You Believe In Generational Retribution?

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  1. goodwood

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    Do you believe in generational retribution?/generational curses? the theory is very old testament - if you do something bad then your offspring will be punsished.

    this never made any sense to me. but throughout my life when any sort of bad turn would arise, someone would be there to ask me what my parents/grandparents/ did and so on and so forth and proceeded to tell me that because someone i was related to clearly did something bad, i was paying the consequences.

    WHAT?!(#&%(&#%^

    After my spate of bad luck my father told me that he felt badly....that somehting he might have done could have come back to cause me bad fortune.

    i am aware of this theory and as a child overheard the adults talking late at night about the "33" ( masonic reference). and beyond that, my famlily has historically been involved in world events so i don't know what to make of this idea of my bad luck is because of what people before me did. througout my life i have been recruited by the masonic organization because of some sort of super high level connection. when i ask questions and demand answers, the recruiter goes away. then another one shows up. no one will tell me anything. i can't figure out why these people keep bothering me. what is the importance of me being in possesion of some 33 medalion anyway?

    what do you think of this idea of generational retribution? does anyone have any opinions on this topic?
     
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    I don't believe in such a thing as a type of karma or something. With all due respect, I would consider that magical thinking.

    That said, I believe that our ancestors can act in such a way that creates conditions for trouble for succeeding generations, but in a worldly/practical way, even if the causes are not obvious contemporarily.
     
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  3. Drifterwood

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    Your ancestor was a member of the Supreme Council of US Freemasonry, a Sovereign Grand Inspector General. Google it.
     
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    I think people want explanations and will believe something completely inconceivable (no offense intended) to find reason in the world. Perhaps curses or the like could exist in the sense of a self-fulfilling condition, but I tend to believe that we are responsible for our own personal hell, subject to the caprices of nature and happenstance without the need to pile on shit from other people. Or, more likely, other people piling their shit on you to relieve their own issues.
     
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    Not really. Only in so far that the actions or paths one generation sets in motion, have an impact on the people who follow. Reddude said it pretty well:-

     
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    Continue. I'm intrigued.
     
  7. witch

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    nope
     
  8. molotovmuffin

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    I personally don't believe your being punished for something that your ancestor/s did...but more like you're having to make up for what you did in past lives. Karma... she's a bitch and will bite your ass if you ask for something wrong. That said... if you did it wrong in a past life... you get recycled, so to speak, to do it all over again...
     
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    I think Drifterwood is right that there is a very senior masonic connection here. I doubt there is any particular harm in 33rd degree masonry (there may be some good in it - I don't know). But a 33rd degree mason is also likely to be a member of other organisations on masonic lines which recruit solely from within the ranks of masons - the appendant orders. These come in all shapes and sizes including the weird and whacky. Possibly one of these feels some sort of multi-generational claim on your family or interest in your family. You haven't really given enough information.
     
  10. whatireallywant

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    What he said.

    And what he said.
     
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    Is 33rd degree the highest level of Mason?
     
  12. joseph8inch

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    To a certain extent people are studied to be influenced by their parents' and grandparents' past experiences (before their parents/they were conceived). Biologists call it epigenetics and think that a person's body will naturally react to experiences in beneficial or harmful ways by actually altering the way it responds to certain genes, and this is passed on to their kids.

    This in no way has anything to do with someone having a long string of bad luck because their mom or dad did something immoral (that's just superstition), but for example people whose grandfathers were well-fed were shown to have significantly higher rates of diabetes. Guess it's not really relevant to this topic, but cool nonetheless. Except for those people who got diabetes maybe.
     
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    There's an old expression that, in most parts of the world, you're only as good as who your parents were, but that in the US you're only as good as what your children became. Though I'm quick to point out that real upward mobility here is not the norm and has its limitations even at the best of situations, I still believe in the wisdom of that saying.

    Much of the complications that mar our daily lives are genetic: diabetes, arthritis, a propensity for alcoholism, etc. But I don't believe in generational retribution: for one thing, it sounds kinda Old Testament wrath-of-Jehovah to me, which I reject as folly and superstition outright.

    Beyond that, we all make enough mistakes on our own for which blame can be affixed. Adding the crimes of an ancestor to the list is a needless exercise in overkill.
     
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