Do You Feel Sorry For The Trumpists?

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If they were just stupid, I might feel sorry for them. But they are violent, and it's dangerous how much they deny reality.

It wasn't just some people at the insurrection they killed. It's Herman Cain and Luke Letlow and all the others who denied Covid and then died of it and infected others who died of it.
 

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I feel sorry for the reputation of America Donald Trump made around the world. Too bad many of you don't watch news from other countries or on another language to understand how bad is this "fame"
 

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Trumpisms followers -do I feel sorry
Bot a chance in hell?

They want to chose to wander round without masks, attend large gatherings then I hope they all get their comeuppance - with luck will feel to ashamed to seek medical help and just melt away
 

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No. Especially the "enlightened" and the "educated" ones.

What's worse is not only do some of the fuckers show zero remorse for the actions of their peers, but they continue to build false narratives and make excuses for their conduct.
 

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Some people died for Trump. Someone used their whole life savings for Trump.

Do you feel sorry for these people?

I don't. They fell for an obvious conman. A known conman. That is on them.
No.

I think you'll find that your countrymen prefer their tribes than any real attempt to reach out.

As DJT would say, "Very sad."
 

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No.

I think you'll find that your countrymen prefer their tribes than any real attempt to reach out.

As DJT would say, "Very sad."
There is no reaching out to someone mired in Qanon conspiracy theory. None.
 

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It's a cult. I don't know how to handle cult members???? Trumpism is a cult of personality.

Marjorie Taylor Greene is endorsed and admired by a majority of the GOP. She is what the party is -- plain and simple. Moderate Republicans are now such a minority that they may as well be non-existent (20% of the party, if that). Sure, 20% of them voting for democrats is to our advantage, but how many of them will? Will they just refuse to vote, or will they vote to save our country, putting their partisanship aside?

Many GOP members around the country have been radicalized, just like the hardline Muslim extremist groups they love to condemn. How ironic!
 

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There is no reaching out to someone mired in Qanon conspiracy theory. None.
People might say that about ISIS recruits or people taken in by NXIVM... just shoot 'em, it's their own fault.

I still think there is a place for deradicalisation.
 

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People might say that about ISIS recruits or people taken in by NXIVM... just shoot 'em, it's their own fault.

I still think there is a place for deradicalisation.

I would like to think you were right, but as I previously stated these are a very broad cross section of society; which includes highly educated ones that are playing fucking dumb for the sake of their profit margins, 401K and their Roth IRAs and they will be a fucking challenge as they have the most to lose in the real world.

To de-radicalize there has to be an incentive. For legitimate blue collar types and working class people it can be done through better employment opportunities and living standards. It will have to be tiered approach at targeted generations and demographics. In some cases it will be radical ideas like universal health care and lower or free higher education.

However for the well off and educated these people for the most part give zero fucks about anyone outside of their bloodline. The only thing they understand at this point is law suits or reinforced rule of law, prison bars and/or what they tried to inflict with their own brand of justice. They will feel threatened by de-radicalization and stand the most to tangibly lose.