Do you guys believe in looks theory, LMS, F.A.C.E., hypergamy, or are you blue pill?

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Do most guys here believe that as long as you are confident and have good personality, or that even if your ugly if you have an above averaged sized cock that women will be begging to sleep with you - begging - no matter how average looking or below average looking you are?

Or do you believe that women are generally attracted to signs of masculinity (jawline, prominent chin, tall stature), fertility and youth (not balding, smooth skin), health (good eye sight/no glasses) etc, just as men are attracted to signs of femininity (long hair, short heartshaped/round faces, full lips), fertility (good hip to waist ratio, perky breasts) and health (slim or curvy figure/not obese)?

LOOKS THEORY:

I assume puahate expatriots have told you all about looks theory? Women will reject a man instantly if he doesn't meet her looks type or standards. Women assume goodlooking men are confident. They project confidence onto good looking men and attribute them this trait. Halo effect. A 9/10 (in looks) guy standing at a bar alone will look confident, broody, like he's waiting for someone. A bald, who's a 4/10 in looks will be "creepy", look like he came there to drink his, bald sorrows away.

Looks theory is the counterpart to pick up art, your grandma's advice on how to get girls (buy her flowers and be a gentlemen. BARFFF), the politically correct BS, the simplistic "just be confident. chicks dig that".

The worst thing that can happen to your looks is BALDING. Once you're a NW2 and can't disguise it, you start to lose looks.

F.A.C.E. theory

My anagram for Face and Age Conquer Everything. This is for the "butterface men" who believe that if you're ugly, you can just go the gym, get ripped, then pull all the ladies. Even if you're 48. Wrong.

Women look at the face as a gauge for your genetic worth and potential. It's biological. She wants a male with the best genes to give her offspring the best chance of survival. A bald ugly short guy wouldn't have survived as easily as a tall, masculine man 10,000 years ago. This even translates into casual sex partners. Her preferences do not change just coz it's a one night stand. GENES!!Many women don't even like bodybuilding figures. An athlete/swimmer's body is the best type of body for a man to have to attract women. Obese men are seen as unhealth and signs of health are ATTRACTIVE. Obese AND bald men should be fined by the govt until they lose weight. They are doing a disservice to themselves.

Women usually want a guy who is in within 7 years of her age usually. Yes, exceptions do exist. Most teens won't date a guy over 29. Most early 20s girls won't date a guy in his 30s. Age matters. Don't post me pics of RICH CELEB MALES who are with young gold diggers.

LOOKS HYPERGAMY:

Women, before feminism, married up. They married men that could provide for them. She provided the looks and nuturing (kids). He provided the money and status. Now, post feminism, women are financially independent, and don't need a man for money as much, although it is still a bonus. Now, they want to date goodlooking men who have Looks, Money and Status. Because of the male libido, a woman who is a 6/10 in looks probably has so many guys after her, she can afford to be picky and pick the best looker among them. Also, since the 7/10 and 8/10 guys find it hard to get the 7/10 and 8/10 women, they TOO are "trying to date down" by hitting on the 6/10 women. So a 6/10 man has no chance with a 6/10 female. So the 6/10 male has to date down too. This cascades until even women in wheelchairs can date average to hot looking guys. I made a dating profile on POF of a woman in a wheelchair and got more messages and chat windows than you have hair follicles!

Ever been to a club? Women are treated like CELEBRITIES there. They often get in free. Men are seen as LEPERS unless they are highly attractive in those clubs. A Female 5/10 has as much power in the dating world as a man 9/10.

JUGGERNAUT LAW (courtesy of TooUglyForGirls):

If a woman is below average height, has wonky teeth, Dumbo ears, this makes guys feel like they have a CHANCE with her, as opposed to if she were more "perfect", less flawed. So this means that even girls that are AVERAGE and BELOW still have guys hitting on them. You can't stop a woman's dating potential. She is like The Juggernaut. If she is a single mum, then more guys will think they are being her prince charming by rescuing her from all the "other bad, bad men out there". She is UNSTOPPABLE. Any flaw she has JUST MAKES HER STRONGER in the dating world.

Do you guys believe in this? OR do you believe women are BLIND and only judge on confidence? Who told you that? Are you incel (involuntarily celebate)? So women don't want you because you're not good looking enough, yet you don't believe in looks theory? If you disagree, please tell me ALL ABOUT THE WOMEN YOU ARE CURRENTLY HAVING SEX WITH. Also state how balding you are.





Having a large penis is just a bonus, having a ripped physique is just a bonus, I have over 8 inches BPEL and only 8% bodyfat or so and am ripped and still get rejected often, because my skin has an acne issue, and because I try to go for girls around my age ( 18 to 21 years old ), who are in close to as good shape as me with good face who are 7/10 or better, and hypergamy makes it very hard to do so.
 
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Along with a strong kick-start from Mother Nature in the genetics pool, you have described why being Gay is so much easier these days.
 

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You provide some interesting theories to discuss but in an aggressive nature. The chat room here provides a pretty good example of the disconnect between men and women on online dating/sex sites and the strategies there. There are very few women proportionally...and in general get way more attention than they even want since it is overwhelming. Hope you get some good discussion if that's your goal.
 

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I've read that balding men are actually more virile. That they have increased levels of testosterone. And I certainly don't think a guy who's balding or bald is necessarily unattractive. What I don't like is a man who tries to hide it with a comb-over, hair piece, or plugs. Ugh. You don't like the fact that you're losing your hair, feeling old and unattractive? Workout and shave your head. A guy looks bad ass and sexy if he has a nice body and shaves his head.
 

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"The worst thing that can happen to your looks is BALDING."

First-hand experience... Hands down, the far and away sexiest and best looking women I've ever been with I picked up after I'd lost a lot of my hair.

I couldn't say if it makes me look better or worse, but it's absolutely not a stumbling block in my ability to date.
 

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Along with a strong kick-start from Mother Nature in the genetics pool, you have described why being Gay is so much easier these days.

If I was gay I would be rich by now.


People who were born gay are a lot luckier, as getting sex and relationships as a gay man is a lot easier, then as a straight man.

Also in a relationship, gay men probably have more respect for each other and treat each other better then the women would treat a man in a relationship.

The only downside to being gay, is that it's not culturally acceptable, in certain area's, however being a gay guy in Manhattan in a gay neighborhood destroys being a straight guy without high LMS ( male model, actor, or top level athlete ) anyway.
 

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Will writing more legibly give you back your original hairline?

I'm pretty sure time travel is a little more complicated than that. Nice effort though, the Doctor would be proud.

What it might possibly do though is make you come across as a little less of a fucking imbecile. I will say, however, that you've really got the misogynistic forum creep vibe nailed though, kudos to that, sir!
 

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A lot of it is true to some extent. However, there are really only two things in my experience that really matter...money and teeth. I've seen chubby balding guys dating hot women because 1: they have lots of money, nice car or truck, nice apt or house, and 2: they can afford to see a dentist regularly.

Trust me, I see this all the time.

Another thing I see a lot of, and this is a recent development, is hot women dating NERDS. Yeah, weird, huh? Too bad the hot girls weren't into us nerdy geeky types when I was young and single.
 

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A lot of it is true to some extent. However, there are really only two things in my experience that really matter...money and teeth. I've seen chubby balding guys dating hot women because 1: they have lots of money, nice car or truck, nice apt or house, and 2: they can afford to see a dentist regularly.

Trust me, I see this all the time.

Another thing I see a lot of, and this is a recent development, is hot women dating NERDS. Yeah, weird, huh? Too bad the hot girls weren't into us nerdy geeky types when I was young and single.


You need to keep in mind that dating a girl doesn't mean he is fucking her.


I'm sure every guy in here has known a guy who has gotten into a relationship with a girl, who wanted to take it slow as they say... but in reality she was just using the guy and stringing him along while she fucked another dude on the side anyway.


Do not be sure that those nerdy guys are fucking the girls... hypergamy has been getting worse with every year as feminism and modern technology has made more men incel's, and given women even more sexual power.




As of now, in the western world women are pretty much in complete control of the sexual marketplace, and they are raising the stock or the price to get their vagina which is the only thing they have to offer, and obviously the only way you can pay is through increasing your looks, money and status.





Because Mark Zuckerberg the kingcel ( king of incels ) created facebook which hurts his other incel ilk a fat women can post a picture on facebook and get 100 likes on it, and have a bunch of guys commenting compliments and white knighting her...



if you do not believe it, go to a young 18 year old girl average or chubby girl's facebook and look at all of the attention she gets on it.


Now compare her male equivalent a chubby or average nothing special looking guy's facebook, and you will see no attention on it.



This gives the average women 100s of options at the click of a button, but she will usually reject everyone of those guys, then she will find a male model and message him on there and because most guys do not reject pussy, he will fuck her and leave and she will get pumped and dumped, as most girls do.



Then when she decides to settle down and stop riding the alpha male cock carousel she will go for the average chubby guy in her looks league as a provider by her 30's when she had her fun with the hot guys.
 
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RippedStaten,

If you are accurately describing a lifestyle or a community of people who share your same sense of values, then I have been both educated and made fearful. For most of us, an individual’s sexual presentation may be the first thing to spark some attraction, but real interest (and passion) follows at a much slower pace. How many times have we found that a pretty face is often worn by an “empty suit or dress”?

If you are spending your time, money, and self-respect competing for the attention of suitors from what appears to be your circle of influence, you may well be living a wasted existence (where 10/10 really = 0/0).

I can understand your disappointment with how some people “play the game” or are allowed to play the game. But don’t let the game trap you. You already know it leads nowhere. Do your own thing and anyone who matters will find you.
 

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As of now, in the western world women are pretty much in complete control of the sexual marketplace, and they are raising the stock or the price to get their vagina which is the only thing they have to offer, and obviously the only way you can pay is through increasing your looks, money and status.
Just a hunch here, but if you are the amazingly hot guy you claim you are (which strikes me as an iffy proposition in itself, but I'll humor you), I suspect that it isn't your looks that keep you from meeting the women you hope to meet, but your attitude.
 

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OK, I did. :eek: :redface:

The F.A.C.E. theory is interesting... If your face is 7 with acne, then maybe the acne brings you down to a 6 and you should be going for girls who are 6 instead of 7-10?

This is a good point, as a matter of fact the girls who show interest in me usually tend to be 6/10's...

also I know my acne is an issue because before I had acne I was one of the most popular and liked kids in my middle school and everyone laughed at my jokes, got acne in highschool, only guys laughed at my jokes and girls would call me dirty or disgusting because of my acne.


I am very masculine in terms of look and physique, I would say I have high prenatal test and this atleast made me well endowed but it also contributes to having acne that fucks me over.





The other issue though is like I mentioned before in female hypergamy, that most women want to date up, I have no money or no status the only friends I have are in the gym these days, and I spend most of my time on internet forums, so because of this going for a 6/10 in looks might not be the best way to go as most 6/10 girls are getting a ton of male attention and they want 8/10 faced men.


I don't want to go for a sub 6/10 or so as I find it to be pointless so in the mean time I'm trying to get my money up for escorts, and working on improving my looks and getting rid of my acne so I can get 6/10 and 7/10 girls as well.


I'm trying to help other young men on this forum who are around my age
( 20 years old ) wondering why they have a big dick or are ripped and why they're not getting laid, by telling them about FACE theory and LMS theory, so we can get in gear and work on improving what matters.









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Your signature shows it all...


James Deen the pornstar has an average physique he is skinny and not all that muscular, he is only 5'7" or so and not tall, his penis is maybe 7 inches bone pressed at best, yes it's above average but nothing amazing... so why is he one of the favorite pornstar's amongst females?


Because of his face.