Do You Support Gay Marriage?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jason_els, Nov 13, 2008.

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What Is Your Opinion on Gay Marriage?

Poll closed Nov 20, 2008.
  1. I Have No Opinion or Have Never Thought About It

    4 vote(s)
    2.8%
  2. I Believe Homosexuals Should Not Be Allowed to Marry or Enter Into Civil Unions

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  3. Homosexuals Should Be Allowed to Enter Only into Cvil Unions

    21 vote(s)
    14.8%
  4. Homosexuals Should Be Allowed to Enter into Marriage

    110 vote(s)
    77.5%
  1. jason_els

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    I'm curious here.

    How many of you believe that homosexuals should be allowed to legally marry?

    How many of you believe that homosexuals (or heterosexuals) should be entitled to opt for civil unions granting the same benefits as marriage?

    How many of you believe homosexuals should be entitled to neither?

    How many of you have no opinion on the matter?

    Keep in mind that marriage does not mean religious organizations (churches, mosques, temples, etc.) will be forced to marry anyone. Religious organizations can still allow or reject anyone they please just as they can do now.

    Most importantly, keep in mind your vote will be anonymous and private. Even I will be unable to see how anyone voted. So if you've kept quiet about your opinion believing it will be unpopular, now's your chance to speak your peace.

    Thank you!
     
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    I voted: Allowed to marry.

    Why in the world not?

    The old saw about "marriage is between a man and a woman" = no truck. Says who? The Bible? Sorry, not good enough. Church, state, etc.

    Even more far-fetched is the argument that gay marriage will somehow undercut the institution of marriage itself. How?

    To me, opposing gay marriage is nothing more than mean-spirited spite. Or truly backward ignorance. Take your pick.
     
  3. QuiteOne

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    The word marriage needs to be taken out of the debate. The gov't should be in the business of civil unions between consenting adults. Let the churches worry about marriage. It's that simple.
     
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    Yep. I'm a Californian and I voted No on Prop. 8. Unfortunately we were defeated.
     
  5. mindseye

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    Aw, hell no. It's bad enough that people are trying to take marriage away from gay people, but you want to take it away from atheists, too?

    Marriage is a contract. Contracts are a legal matter, not a religious matter. If churches want to create something new, they can.
     
  6. midlifebear

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    Yeah, you betcha, several hundred percent. It's sad so much of the world is focused upon limiting individual freedoms. Marriage is a right everyone should have.
     
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    I don't get you people who think that marriage for gays somehow translates into a loss of rights for you!
    It has nothing,zero,zip,nada to do with you personally so how thefuck does it impact you in any way?
    Someone who is against proposition 8 please tell me.
    For me it's a simple matter of you being ignorant and believing your entitlemed. That if your straight you are somehow better and reserve the right to marry for straight folks.
    Shame on you!
    cigarbabe:saevil:
     
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    Wow, 100% on the money.
     
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    Personally, I have always viewed the word "marriage" as a word that had religious connotations; my primary concern has been that state and federal government provide gay people with all the rights, privileges and protections that straight people enjoy under the law. After all, one can always find a church or a church official who will perform the ceremony if that's of import, right?

    Unfortunately, the way most laws are written, without the word "marriage" they wouldn't apply, or could be contested, to gay people and civil unions or any other version of marriage without being rewritten to include those terms and to do that would be so time-consuming and costly as to be ludicrous. And frankly, it's just a word. To say, "Well, we don't want them to be 'married', but we can live with the idea of them being in a 'Civil Union' is a pretty lame equivocation if you ask me. It's all just semantics and it's just another case of desperately trying to put up roadblocks of one sort or another.

    Face it. It won't happen tomorrow, but anti-gay marriage forces are on the wrong side of history. It'll happen.
     
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    that's FAR FAR FAR too logistical an argument for these parts. it's all about shitting on Christians.

    funny, given ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the anger here against Christians and religion, yet the need for religious equality.

    if anything, the argument should be to remove 'marriage' from the government... and make fight for tax, medical, and legal rights.

    hypocrisy (once a fucking again on LPSG) in it's finest hour.
     
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    ^------------- too libertarian of rhetoric
     
  13. D_Chocho_Lippz

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    How about the option of:

    I don't want the government to dictate to anyone who they can and cannot marry. Get the damn government out of our love lives completely.

    How about that?

    My Vote: Didn't vote because my option is not up there.
     
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    I'll be interested to see how badly you get flamed faceking. I didn't read your post but saw that you wanted (or mentioned) getting marriage out of government....

    Who knows, maybe I will get pulled into the flame thrower too....
     
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    You do understand that logistical and logical aren't synonymous, right? :tongue:


    No need for me to wax poetic with my thoughts on the topic...SilverTrain has done an excellent job already.
     
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    Why are gays obsessed with the term 'marriage'? I am all for equal rights, but if that includes changing the traditional use of the word than it seems to me that gays are after alot more than just equal rights. It appears that what they really want is cultural and moral acceptance. And thats fine. Gays have the right to vote whether or not marriage should be redefined, and those who oppose it have that right as well.

    As americans, we have a collective moral consciousness, or at least thats what liberals have been shoving down our throats for the past 100 years in the form of "collectivism". collectivism on health care, on social security, on redistribution of wealth, on welfare, and the list goes on. but when it comes to other moral issues that when left to the collective will of the people, the libs start screaming "individual rights! individual freedom!" nope, there is no room for that when it comes to gun rights, religious expression, taxes, etc. No, those who believe in these must yeild to the "collective will of the people." so libs want it both ways, consistantly inconsistant.

    Well, as for gay marriage, the collective will of the people has spoken, and they disapprove of redefining the word marriage, however, the overwhelming majority are for civil unions which would afford the same rights. why is this not good enough?
     
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    Absolutely, same rights for everyone, it's almost a decade in the 21st century, we really need to get over this shit.
     
  18. mindseye

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    Jim Crow. "Civil unions" are separate water fountains. The back of the bus.

    We've seen by tragic example that separate but equal is unequal. Besides, there has never been a civil union in this country that has granted the same rights as a marriage.
     
  19. jason_els

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    How is it shitting on Christians? Many other religions don't approve of homosexuality or support gay right to marriage.

    On top of that, some Christian and Jewish denominations do welcome gays and do solemnize marriages.

    Shame on you for thinking all Christian denominations are bigoted.
     
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    Hmm...if marriage is a right everyone should have, what about polygamy and incest marriage? These marriages been around a long time in some parts of the world....
     
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