Do you think we will ever accept sexuality as fluid?

[marriedasian]

i don't think sexuality will ever be fluid in the sense that we can all just accept the "possibility" that our sexual preferences can be expanded and accepted by the mass. there are too many institutions (religious, political, social, etc) in our world that either won't allow that or will teach that sexual fluidity is wrong, plus the fact that many people in and out of those institutions are too easily influenced by the strong-minded.

i think the best bet that we will have is being able to find other like-minded people whom we may be able to share our ideas with and maybe, just maybe, be able to create a little space within our own personal life where sexuality can be fluid. in the bigger picture as a mass, i doubt it. we have a hard enough time getting people to talk about sexuality than to even begin to think about it being fluid.

 

[Khegan]

We, at least in the USA, are just now getting around to accepting that sexuality isn't binary. It was always a dirty secret that there were people who enjoyed unusual fetishes, and now there are fewer that are saying it's only straight or gay. I remember growing up, a lot of people's views were binary only. If you were a guy and had ever done anything with another guy, you were gay. Bisexual to them just meant another gay guy. Girl's were allowed to be bisexual though, that was ok.

I think a lot of this stems from a prude and puritanical societal influence here. People refuse to accept any scientific research, because, the Bible says no. Kinsey had 8 degrees. There are others that have expanded it to 9, 16 or 25, with varying degrees of sexual contact.

I think another issue is that people cannot extricate sexual contact from societal relationships. You may exclusively date women, but don't mind some guy action on the side, or vice versa. This can go on both sides of the coin, for men or women.

I personally believe that bisexuality is more normative than people want to admit as far as sexual contact is concerned. Again, how people choose to be in a relationship is something completely different.

tl;dr
No we won't ever accept fluid sexuality until people can separate sexuality from relationships and get religion out of it.

 

[BIGBULL29]

We already see niches in porn where straight men can be curious. "Cuckhold" is a super big niche these days. Many of them have dudes sucking on dildos and sometimes real cocks.

Evan Stone - whom I've always considered a big pussy-loving porn stud - has done borderline bisexual cuckhold scenes. It makes feel good that you can love pussy like him but still play with another side of yourself that has been repressed. He's helped me accept myself a little bit.

Straight porn studs with the big names doing "borderline bisexual" stuff can help some very straight-identifying men go sexually where they normally refuse to go.

Things are changing for younger males in our culture. It's just been super, super slow.

 

[Mikehard9]

We already have too many labels .... It seems like 'fluid' people dont want to be labelled or put in a category....yet the irony is they have just created another label

so its a bit pointless , confusing and stupid

 

[Serpentlike]

If we don't kill ourselves and the planet, we just might accept that sexuality is fluid.

 

[Mikehard9]

If we don't kill ourselves and the planet, we just might accept that sexuality is fluid.

But its just a new word for bisexual
And i dont think everyone is bisexual or 'fluid'

Obviously we have potential to have sex with men or women but that dosent mean we all want to.

 

[622675]

Things are changing for younger males in our culture. It's just been super, super slow.

Yes, the guys have always been out there

It will be interesting to see what happens as our culture backs off.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Yes, the guys have always been out there
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It will be interesting to see what happens as our culture backs off.
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I've seen some cuckhold videos in the Mean Bitches series. These dominatrixes have their male servants suck big dildos, and sometimes the cock of a real dude brought in the room. I suppose that a woman forcing you to do it makes you seem a little less gay. I'm not sure how it's quite perceived by the straight men who are heavily into this. Somehow or other, a very straight woman's presence validates your gay feelings in such a repressed homophobic world.

What I found very interesting is, is that all the men have very "straight-acting" qualities. I do no like the aforementioned term but it is a reality that we must accept.

Straight porn star Evan Stone has done borderline bisexual cuckhold scenes. He does not in any way have the mannerisms or appearance of a "stereotypical" gay man.

The taboo of male homosexuality is slightly loosening. Cuckhold, Big Black Cocks, and trans niches are getting as popular, if not more popular, than very heterosexual niches (big tits, lesbian, cheerleaders, etc.). Very interesting to me, to say the least.

 

[bravesoldier]

Ok, so I'm really bored with the posts I read on this forum where one guy accuses another guy of being less than straight because he's interested in cock, or the posts where one person be it male or female feels the need to state adamantly how 100% gay or straight they are (although you will note its usually a deceleration of how str8 they are).

So I'm putting this out there to every-one.

Do you ever think there will come a time when we can openly accept that sexuality is FLUID as opposed to being LOCKED?

Can those of you out there that are 100% Gay or Straight ever see yourself looking at a member of the oppisite sex or same sex and saying "I can see something attractive in that person"

For the longest time I believed I was gay and that was all there was too it....... I even stupidly and narrowmindedly allowed myself to believe that like so many gay men out there that womens parts were repulsive to me.

Then i thought about bisexuals and asked myself was i being narrowminded.... was I allowing my sexuality to be influnced not by how i truly felt but by the peer group I had formed. So the next time i watched porn i watched some lesbian porn and found that womens bits didnt repulse me....and after having experinced cunninglingus and finding that I enjoyed it realised that maybe sexuality wasn't everything we've been led to believe it was.

There are still factors (some i can name others i dont know) that lead me to believe I have a strong prefernce for men. The main one being when I imagine myself with some-one in the future I imagine it being a man.

From a shy boy's experience growing up scarred and introverted to reaching my mid forties only to discover so many out there like me, I would answer with a resounding yes, we should admit that sexuality is fluid in the world in which we live. I have a good friend I've been seeing for several years. One night he began telling me about the women he's fucked and how good it was. Then he proceeds sucking my cock like a starved pup and not stopping until he gets my load. Constantly hitting me up to come back over for more. Amazing.

 

[bravesoldier]

Yes, the guys have always been out there
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Always loved that saying "the only difference between a straight guy and a gay guy is a few beers".

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Always loved that saying "the only difference between a straight guy and a gay guy is a few beers".

That's just bullshit. My very attractive and well hung husband has been around men drunk all the time I know not everyone of them was straight but my husband wouldn't do anything under alcohol or even sober with another man. He's not interested and no amount of beers on the planet will make him interested in dick. It's truly insulting to straight mein to say this.

 

[622675]

I suppose that a woman forcing you to do it makes you seem a little less gay. I'm not sure how it's quite perceived by the straight men who are heavily into this

I don’t have time to dig out the behavioral and chemical details but many (if not most) people find doing something they either haven’t done before or something that is taboo to be very erotic. This helps explain why even the simplest sexual adventure can be so exciting when we are young.

As we get older our erotic interest can become more refined and our exposure to numerous possible erotic situations grows. This is one of the most interesting aspects about human behavior and potentially one of the most alarming.

 

[BIGBULL29]

I don’t have time to dig out the behavioral and chemical details but many (if not most) people find doing something they either haven’t done before or something that is taboo to be very erotic. This helps explain why even the simplest sexual adventure can be so exciting when we are young.

As we get older our erotic interest can become more refined and our exposure to numerous possible erotic situations grows. This is one of the most interesting aspects about human behavior and potentially one of the most alarming.

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How dick-terrifying!

 

[328982]

That's just bullshit. My very attractive and well hung husband has been around men drunk all the time I know not everyone of them was straight but my husband wouldn't do anything under alcohol or even sober with another man. He's not interested and no amount of beers on the planet will make him interested in dick. It's truly insulting to straight mein to say this.

People say my handsome and well hung guy could pass for straight but that's an insult. He's been around women drunk lots of times but wouldn’t do anything under alcohol or even sober with a woman. He's not interested in women and all the alcohol in the universe won't make make him touch a pussy. The only difference between gay/straight is a few beers? Bullshit. That's truly insulting to gay men.

 

[328982]

Interesting how threatened women, even apparently bisexual women, are by bisexuality in men. It's a total no-no. Why is it such an insult for a straight man to be thought bi or just potentially bi when he is not? Who cares? Gay men are taken for straight all the time. In fact, 'straight acting' is a kind of compliment or pat on the back. If you think it's insulting to be thought gay, that's probably because you think gay is an insult.

 

[IntactMale]

We already have too many labels .... It seems like 'fluid' people dont want to be labelled or put in a category....yet the irony is they have just created another label

so its a bit pointless , confusing and stupid

I think that's a misunderstanding of what fluid people "want" or how they see themselves. I'm not sure where you are getting the idea about labels, that really has nothing to do with it. It's the idea that sexuality isn't a static thing. One day someone might be into something they weren't into before, or they might no longer be into something they previously were interested in. We seem to accept this when it comes to anything other than the gender of people someone is attracted to. It has nothing to do with a label.

 

[BIGBULL29]

I think that's a misunderstanding of what fluid people "want" or how they see themselves. I'm not sure where you are getting the idea about labels, that really has nothing to do with it. It's the idea that sexuality isn't a static thing. One day someone might be into something they weren't into before, or they might no longer be into something they previously were interested in. We seem to accept this when it comes to anything other than the gender of people someone is attracted to. It has nothing to do with a label.

You're making sense for sure.

I go in phases where I watch chunky lesbian porn -- and then all of sudden, I will get more interested in the male body (my dick, comparing it, etc.). I have even watched gay porn (admit it) but usually find it boring....except once in a great, great while. Something makes me get off to it.

Your mind is constantly changing. Some foods you like may no longer be interesting to you next week, or next year, etc.
Everything in life is impermanent, including our thoughts and desires.

 

[1241586]

That's just bullshit. My very attractive and well hung husband has been around men drunk all the time I know not everyone of them was straight but my husband wouldn't do anything under alcohol or even sober with another man. He's not interested and no amount of beers on the planet will make him interested in dick. It's truly insulting to straight mein to say this.

How do you know what your husband gets up to when you're not around?

Heterosexual women tend to be the worst homophobes and most straight guys are at their peak of homophobia when they're around straight women.

 

[1241586]

There's new research emerging which suggests homosexuality evolved as a form of bonding in humans. Which actually makes logical sense.

New Study Identifies Evolutionary Basis Of Homosexuality

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Because we've been married for 20 years and we know everything about each other he knows I wouldn't judge him he's never judged me for my bisexuality. But it's just the same as saying a guy will eat a gay guy will eat pussy if you give him enough limoncello shots