I'm not old but I am not what I would call a younger guy and I am not into public showers. I'm not into showering with a group of guys.
Do younger guys not like public showers?
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I would have to disagree with you on that. I'm totally straight, and I think the new modesty is ridiculous. If anything, I have found that guys who identify as gay have more of a problem with open showers than straight guys do. Straight guys don't really care how they look to other guys. It's not like a straight guy is not going to shower because he has put on a few pounds or is worried that his dick isn't big enough. If you're not into guys, why would you care about how you look to them? I have been participating in this very discussion in many threads and on many sites with all sorts of guys, so I can tell you with absolute certainty that this is not a gay/straight issue. In my day, guys were called gay for NOT showering with the other guys and making such a fuss about being naked around their own gender. After all, why would you have a problem with being naked around other guys if you're straight and not into guys? This whole myth that you're going to be pounced on by gay guys if you use an open shower is total B.S. I have been using open showers for over 20 years now and have NEVER I repeat NEVER seen anything sexual happen (this includes university athletic centres, fraternities, hostels, dorms and private gyms). I have even showered in the open knowing full well that there were gay guys using the shower at the same time as me. I was never leered at, hit on or raped by them. What guy wants to get his ass kicked and be banned from the facility for such behaviour? The only thing that I have seen happen since this new ultra modesty took root in the late 1990s (it's a relatively new phenomenon) is an increase in paranoia, fear and mistrust, and the absence of friendship, comraderie, respect and trust among men.
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I used a distant analogy in an attempt to deflect the preposterous tension the lockerroom scene seems to evoke in some.
The analogy was about respecting other people's nudity, although you are right: at the nude beach, nudity is for hours on end. In the lockerroom, it is only seconds-long.
Why would people go to a nude beach to get sun? You can get sun at any beach. Again, the analogy was about socially expected group nudity.
Huh? Wouldn't a coffee shop qualify as a meeting place?
Bingo! So why would someone wear a burkha in a shower? So it can recycle all his grime and fecal matter?
Bullshit!
That would so neatly fit your prejudicial notions, wouldn't it?
For one, I am afraid that this paranoid and I-am-too-sexy-for-you-if-you-only-knew-how-special-I-am freak show is observable in 100% officially gay gyms too, not to mention mixed metropolitan clubs.
One asshole who wanted to date me even confessed that he couldn't stand the idea that guys (at one of my mostly straight clubs) would get to see him naked for FREE!
He was nowhere near a runway model...
...nor are the mostly unfuckable and shapeless blobs who awkwardly squirm behind towels and other concealing devices and make the lockerroom a stressful circus.
Yes, I am gay and no I don't want to see those blobs naked. I want them to stay out of the lockerroom or not behave like psychotic freaks.
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It seems I hit a sore spot. I ask a couple of reasonable questions, tongue in cheek, and people overreact and throw hissy fits. Maybe it's not me who has prejudicial notions, eh? What a circus.
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Your'e picking gnat shit out of pepper.
I thought we were talking about the odd person wearing a swimsuit. What in hell is a burkha?
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http://www.medindia.net/news/Burkhas-for-Boys-a-Great-Hit-in-Britain-This-Christmas-30687-1.htm
http://www.medindia.net/news/Burkhas-for-Boys-a-Great-Hit-in-Britain-This-Christmas-30687-1.htm
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This has got to be a joke, right? Or something out of Star Wars? I had a vague notion that a burka was something that muslim women wear. This is going to give me nightmares about alien abduction.
Anyway, it'd saturday afternoon. Life is short. I am going to go drink beer and watch football since I believe it will be both more interesting and more productive than banging away on a keyboard, arguing about ridiculous things with people thousands of miles away. When I return I will ask my GF to take a shower with me. Clothing will NOT be optional.
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I'm sure there are instances when old guys look at you in the shower maybe they are just thinking back to when they looked like you.
The ones I look at are the morons doing the towel dance and it is purely out of amazement at the antics. The ones that are in and out of the shower liek they are there to clean up never get a glance.
The ones I look at are the morons doing the towel dance and it is purely out of amazement at the antics. The ones that are in and out of the shower liek they are there to clean up never get a glance.
I received some links from a Yahoo group that I am a member of. These pictures really go to show that this hyper modesty that has taken place over the last 10 years among young men is a relatively new phenomenon:
Here's some photo pages from Life magazine's archives that illustrate the topic of nude swimming, just in case we still have anyone out there who wants to deny that it ever happened.
I'm not posting the links because I don't want to be accused of any weird pedophilia allegations. If you want to see the links, join the Yahoo group YMCAnaked (almost 21,000 members). In these pictures, you can clearly see boys swimming in the nude around lots of other boys and it comes from Life magazine, not some pervert website. These pictures were taken in the 1950s and published around the world in Life magazine which was a well respected magazine read by everybody. Back then, society recognized that it was nothing sexual and completely appropriate. What the hell went wrong with our society that boys have been taught to be ashamed of their own bodies especially around their own gender? It's unbelievably sad. :frown1: Unfortunately (and not surprisingly) this attitude carries forward into adulthood.
Here's some photo pages from Life magazine's archives that illustrate the topic of nude swimming, just in case we still have anyone out there who wants to deny that it ever happened.
I'm not posting the links because I don't want to be accused of any weird pedophilia allegations. If you want to see the links, join the Yahoo group YMCAnaked (almost 21,000 members). In these pictures, you can clearly see boys swimming in the nude around lots of other boys and it comes from Life magazine, not some pervert website. These pictures were taken in the 1950s and published around the world in Life magazine which was a well respected magazine read by everybody. Back then, society recognized that it was nothing sexual and completely appropriate. What the hell went wrong with our society that boys have been taught to be ashamed of their own bodies especially around their own gender? It's unbelievably sad. :frown1: Unfortunately (and not surprisingly) this attitude carries forward into adulthood.
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Cant say I blame them , I dont know why they still have open showers all the new YMCA dont have them like that anymore. Just the old ones but this is a personal choice I myself prefer private stalls , I am not one to be looking at another man taking a shower its just not me, I wait to come home then shower
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i don't mind showering in front of people. i think, with my generation, is that we've been taught that the naked human body is a naughty thing. and it's not. we've over sexualized the human body.
now, one issue i do have is that there are a lot of creepers out there. i'm not bothered if you take a glance, but when you start to stare, i become uncomfy. even more so if you start touching yourself. and worse yet, if you approach me, and i tell you it's not gonna happen, and you continue to come on to me (wow, what a word choice haha) then it's not cool.
but again, i think the bigger problem is how our society sexualizes things that shouldn't be. like how women are not allowed to breast feed in public, or even go out topless in more places. but i digress
now, one issue i do have is that there are a lot of creepers out there. i'm not bothered if you take a glance, but when you start to stare, i become uncomfy. even more so if you start touching yourself. and worse yet, if you approach me, and i tell you it's not gonna happen, and you continue to come on to me (wow, what a word choice haha) then it's not cool.
but again, i think the bigger problem is how our society sexualizes things that shouldn't be. like how women are not allowed to breast feed in public, or even go out topless in more places. but i digress
I don't care if someone stares. It is his problem, not mine.
A male who is not affraid to be naked aserts self confidence, he is not affraid to show his body to others and not affraid to be compared against those of others.
A male who does the towel dance tells the world he has a self confidence problem and doesn't have the courage to unveil his body. These people should be told thst this is how their towel dance is perceived.
A male who is not affraid to be naked aserts self confidence, he is not affraid to show his body to others and not affraid to be compared against those of others.
A male who does the towel dance tells the world he has a self confidence problem and doesn't have the courage to unveil his body. These people should be told thst this is how their towel dance is perceived.
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same here.. since I moved to the UK from germany about 6 years ago ever since in gym changing rooms there seem to be men of all ages doing towel dances. Sometimes I wondered whether I should offer them a hand and hold the towel for them lol..
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from what i see at my local gym, there are more that cover up, slip boxers on under a towel, etc.
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You have some very deep seated aggression towards older people... but it doesn't matter, because you will be a 'dirty old fuck' someday too.
Being comfortable being naked means being comfortable being naked regardless of who might be looking at you.
I think that is clear that young people today (in America) are just about the most sexually repressed group of people the world has ever produced. Watch out for the future, because they are going to be the next nazi generation... deciding that they know what's best for everyone else.
Just go take your fucking shower and shut the fuck up. Or don't!
