Ineligible: It's dihydrotestosterone that is responsible for the pubertal growth spurt. However growth before puberty is different, and it may well be HGH (or one of them - I think there are several). Many people are big because they were big before puberty and just increase proportionately at puberty, and for them, dihydrotestosterone levels are probably normal. Perhaps that covers most people here at LPSG.
You don't necessarily get bald as a result of dihydrotestosterone - you have to have a genetic susceptibility as well. The bad gene makes the blood vessels supplying the hair shrink under the influence of dihydrotestosterone. In practice, whether guys get male pattern baldness depends much more on their genes than their dihydrotestosterone levels.
You don't necessarily get bald as a result of dihydrotestosterone - you have to have a genetic susceptibility as well. The bad gene makes the blood vessels supplying the hair shrink under the influence of dihydrotestosterone. In practice, whether guys get male pattern baldness depends much more on their genes than their dihydrotestosterone levels.
likeitmatters: massivepk,do you have a msn -adress? i"ll sent you a pic so you have to believe it
and if he does send you a pic...you may want to ask to see if soft and hard with his face on it or do something like wave in both.
I personally do not believe anyone without seeing a photo. I get this crap all the time on aol and I use the simple tactics that I suggested here and they stop talking to me.
Thanks
and if he does send you a pic...you may want to ask to see if soft and hard with his face on it or do something like wave in both.
I personally do not believe anyone without seeing a photo. I get this crap all the time on aol and I use the simple tactics that I suggested here and they stop talking to me.
Thanks
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[quote author=Ineligible link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=0#19 date=03/27/04 at 02:49:42]The hormone that causes penis growth in puberty is actually not strictly testosterone but dihydrotestosterone which is produced from testosterone. (It's also dihydrotestosterone that produces male pattern baldness in people who are genetically prone to it.)[/quote]
That's true enough Ineligible, and I'll personally vouch for that. Yep, I had experienced a slight touch of male alopecia some odd years ago, I.E., Male Pattern Baldness, but caught it just in time and had some transplant surgery to correct it. So the news was I still had retained my big dick, and my full head of hair.
That's true enough Ineligible, and I'll personally vouch for that. Yep, I had experienced a slight touch of male alopecia some odd years ago, I.E., Male Pattern Baldness, but caught it just in time and had some transplant surgery to correct it. So the news was I still had retained my big dick, and my full head of hair.
JimEllsworth5: [quote author=Donk link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=0#5 date=03/18/04 at 06:23:44]I do believe that penises in this size range are within the realm of possibility (and I have personally seen one that is 14" erect), but I do not believe individuals who show up here posting that they have naturally occurring penises of this size that are fully functional (and, in fact, spring immediately to steel hard erections that rip through underwear and the like) and that they are perfectly happy with such outrageous organs. If someone posted about a penis this size that has functionality problems and that causes major difficulties in his personal and sexual life, I would find it much more believable. I think spotting obvious fakes is mainly a matter of applying common sense to posts.[/quote]
I fall into this catagory. My size, while very exciting to myself, has more often than not been a detriment.
I'm not sure I'd go so far to say that my penis is not functional. I can have and orgasm and I do ejaculate, so that part seems to work. It also works well urinating. I don't acheive "rock hard" or "steel rod" erections, but I get hard enough for penetration. And there are women who can accomodate some of me.
Still in all these days my most enjoyable sexual experiences are with myself alone.
I fall into this catagory. My size, while very exciting to myself, has more often than not been a detriment.
I'm not sure I'd go so far to say that my penis is not functional. I can have and orgasm and I do ejaculate, so that part seems to work. It also works well urinating. I don't acheive "rock hard" or "steel rod" erections, but I get hard enough for penetration. And there are women who can accomodate some of me.
Still in all these days my most enjoyable sexual experiences are with myself alone.
john_jones9: First off, yeah, I know this is a support group, but more often than not, not much supporting is going on. And sorry to cross post this so much.
Second off, there are men and women on this board who post very nice, well meaning and well thought out, interesting and sometimes amusing posts. To those, thank you and skip this diatribe.
Third, there are a lot of men, boys, women (?), girls (?) who post often and claim to be HUGE, and by that I mean 12-18 inches in length and 8-12" in circumference. There were quite a lot of posts of that sort in the "Young and Hung" section under the topics "Over 12 and Under 18" and a few other.
Can I really believe that there are men out there that large? I can do a few things. The first is to look at variations in physical size amoung humans.
For instance, there are men over 8' tall (at least there have been in recent history) and women over 7' tall, so perhaps 18" long and 12" around penis' are possible. On the other hand, the variation in height shows the tallest men having heights of 150% the average man (~9' of Robert Wadlow, see GBWR and ~6' average US male, okay 5'8" - 5'10" but round up) which translates to a 9" long and 7.5" around penis.
Going another route, women's breasts show a wide variety in size. First off, I assume that the average cup size to be a B (1" difference between bust and chest), which is a statistic I read and something I believe because looking for a bra for my wife at Victoria's Secrect showed the 34B bins to be the most depleted. Next I find the largest cup size advertised online of GG (9" bigger around the bust than chest). Then I consider the volumes these bras imply assuming that the volume around the chest can be roughly approximated by a cylinder with the circumference being give by the bra and cup size. Assuming the heights of the cylinders to be the same, then the ratio of GG to B depends only on the ratio of the square of the circumferences. Finally assuming that the chest measurements are the same for the GG and B cup women then the actual breast size difference is 1.5:1 (assuming a 34GG compared to a 34B). But that's in volume, so going up from the volume of the average 6" long 5" circumference penis of about 12 cubic inches gives 18 cubic inches and assuming the length to circumference ratio to be about 1.5:1 then the large penis would be about 8" long and 5.5" around.
That's two different estimates that give about the same answer, not exactly the same, but not incredibly different.
This makes it easy for me to believe the guys who claim to be in the 8-10" range for length and 6-8" range of circumference, but makes it very hard for me to believe the claims of guys in the 11" plus length range and/or 9" plus circumference range.
Still I know there are men that large out there. Long Dong Silver was that large (that's Dong, not Dan). I've seen picture and vidoes and even conservatively he was over a foot in length, as were "The Texas Longhorn" and "Mr. Mx." But all three of them (one black, two white) looked to be in the 6-8" circumference range. And none of them seemed to have a "working" erection.
So what's the "long and short" of it? I just can't believe the claims of guys in the 11" plus length and/or 9"+ girth range. And espcially not when those claims are coupled with "rock hard" erections. Even John Holmes (who was between 10" (if you believe a lot of people) and 12" (if you believe Ron Jeremy)) and was more often than not "half hard." Most of the big guys in porn today look to be in the 8"-10" length range with a few that might be legitimate 12-inchers.
I can believe that guys can use a vacuum pump to obtain temporarily outrageous sizes, take a look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jojospumpgroup/?yguid=94895042 as an example of one guy who does it.
Recently I PM'd about a dozen of the guys claiming to be over a foot long asking for photographic proof. Sure I know, this is a support group, but still outrageous claims need some support of their own. Of those 12+ men I wrote, only two wrote back to provide photographic proof and even the pictures those two provided didn't seem to math their claimed size, they were big and impressive for sure, but both looked to be in the "comofortably" believable 8"-10" size range. I won't name names, or forward pictures, so don't be worried.
If you're really 11"+ and want to convince me, send a clear picture with a ruler and your penis and I'll sing your praises to anyone you want. But until that time I remain very skeptical about the very large size claims.
F.Y.I. I'm 7.25" in length from base to tip along the top and 5.5" around the middle. Nice, but I'd like to be bigger. There you have it. If you want to label be as "jealous" have at it.
Second off, there are men and women on this board who post very nice, well meaning and well thought out, interesting and sometimes amusing posts. To those, thank you and skip this diatribe.
Third, there are a lot of men, boys, women (?), girls (?) who post often and claim to be HUGE, and by that I mean 12-18 inches in length and 8-12" in circumference. There were quite a lot of posts of that sort in the "Young and Hung" section under the topics "Over 12 and Under 18" and a few other.
Can I really believe that there are men out there that large? I can do a few things. The first is to look at variations in physical size amoung humans.
For instance, there are men over 8' tall (at least there have been in recent history) and women over 7' tall, so perhaps 18" long and 12" around penis' are possible. On the other hand, the variation in height shows the tallest men having heights of 150% the average man (~9' of Robert Wadlow, see GBWR and ~6' average US male, okay 5'8" - 5'10" but round up) which translates to a 9" long and 7.5" around penis.
Going another route, women's breasts show a wide variety in size. First off, I assume that the average cup size to be a B (1" difference between bust and chest), which is a statistic I read and something I believe because looking for a bra for my wife at Victoria's Secrect showed the 34B bins to be the most depleted. Next I find the largest cup size advertised online of GG (9" bigger around the bust than chest). Then I consider the volumes these bras imply assuming that the volume around the chest can be roughly approximated by a cylinder with the circumference being give by the bra and cup size. Assuming the heights of the cylinders to be the same, then the ratio of GG to B depends only on the ratio of the square of the circumferences. Finally assuming that the chest measurements are the same for the GG and B cup women then the actual breast size difference is 1.5:1 (assuming a 34GG compared to a 34B). But that's in volume, so going up from the volume of the average 6" long 5" circumference penis of about 12 cubic inches gives 18 cubic inches and assuming the length to circumference ratio to be about 1.5:1 then the large penis would be about 8" long and 5.5" around.
That's two different estimates that give about the same answer, not exactly the same, but not incredibly different.
This makes it easy for me to believe the guys who claim to be in the 8-10" range for length and 6-8" range of circumference, but makes it very hard for me to believe the claims of guys in the 11" plus length range and/or 9" plus circumference range.
Still I know there are men that large out there. Long Dong Silver was that large (that's Dong, not Dan). I've seen picture and vidoes and even conservatively he was over a foot in length, as were "The Texas Longhorn" and "Mr. Mx." But all three of them (one black, two white) looked to be in the 6-8" circumference range. And none of them seemed to have a "working" erection.
So what's the "long and short" of it? I just can't believe the claims of guys in the 11" plus length and/or 9"+ girth range. And espcially not when those claims are coupled with "rock hard" erections. Even John Holmes (who was between 10" (if you believe a lot of people) and 12" (if you believe Ron Jeremy)) and was more often than not "half hard." Most of the big guys in porn today look to be in the 8"-10" length range with a few that might be legitimate 12-inchers.
I can believe that guys can use a vacuum pump to obtain temporarily outrageous sizes, take a look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jojospumpgroup/?yguid=94895042 as an example of one guy who does it.
Recently I PM'd about a dozen of the guys claiming to be over a foot long asking for photographic proof. Sure I know, this is a support group, but still outrageous claims need some support of their own. Of those 12+ men I wrote, only two wrote back to provide photographic proof and even the pictures those two provided didn't seem to math their claimed size, they were big and impressive for sure, but both looked to be in the "comofortably" believable 8"-10" size range. I won't name names, or forward pictures, so don't be worried.
If you're really 11"+ and want to convince me, send a clear picture with a ruler and your penis and I'll sing your praises to anyone you want. But until that time I remain very skeptical about the very large size claims.
F.Y.I. I'm 7.25" in length from base to tip along the top and 5.5" around the middle. Nice, but I'd like to be bigger. There you have it. If you want to label be as "jealous" have at it.
An abundance of testosterone during the formative years or earlier definately will cause your dick to grow. Testosterone is responsible for the developement of all your secondary sexual characteristics, voice depth, body hair growth and penis size. Testosterone makes things grow and your genes limit that growth. If there ia an imbalance of hormones with an over abundance of testosterone that you most likely will bw large in the penis department. At least that's what the endocrinologist told my parents many years ago when I was growing in the crotch so disproportionately.
Just so you know, at my size I do get hard, I wouldn't say it was steel, although it sometimes get harder than other times, and it is definately functional. Gatting head is just that only the head gets sucked. When it comes to full insertion sex that's out of the question also. It ain't gonna happen and I know that. Nobody's that loose and I think it would be too painful to try and stretch someone enough to take my girth so I don't even try. So as I have stated before, having a really big dick is not all it's cracked up to be.
Just so you know, at my size I do get hard, I wouldn't say it was steel, although it sometimes get harder than other times, and it is definately functional. Gatting head is just that only the head gets sucked. When it comes to full insertion sex that's out of the question also. It ain't gonna happen and I know that. Nobody's that loose and I think it would be too painful to try and stretch someone enough to take my girth so I don't even try. So as I have stated before, having a really big dick is not all it's cracked up to be.
Cobalt Blue
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"Does anyone really believe these claims?"
In a word, no. :-/
Usually, those respondents who supply 'photographic proof' [and most do not] don't even come close to their claimed sizes.
I put this down to poor mathematics teaching in schools. These guys have patently mistaken inches for centimetres
For the record:
One inch equals precisely 2.54 centimetres
In a word, no. :-/
Usually, those respondents who supply 'photographic proof' [and most do not] don't even come close to their claimed sizes.
I put this down to poor mathematics teaching in schools. These guys have patently mistaken inches for centimetres
For the record:
One inch equals precisely 2.54 centimetres
[quote author=nicky link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=20#27 date=04/19/04 at 02:17:44]"Does anyone really believe these claims?"
In a word, no. :-/
Usually, those respondents who supply 'photographic proof' [and most do not] don't even come close to their claimed sizes.
I put this down to poor mathematics teaching in schools. These guys have patently mistaken inches for centimetres
For the record:
One inch equals precisely 2.54 centimetres [/quote]
So nicky does that mean you penis is actually just over 3.5 inches?? If you don't believe the other guys that post their size then why should anybody believe you?? I will admit that some of the claimed sizes do seem a bit exagerated but if you expect us to believe your stated size then you shouldn't be so quick to judge others for their size claim. It's kinda like "the pot calling the kettle black".
In a word, no. :-/
Usually, those respondents who supply 'photographic proof' [and most do not] don't even come close to their claimed sizes.
I put this down to poor mathematics teaching in schools. These guys have patently mistaken inches for centimetres
For the record:
One inch equals precisely 2.54 centimetres [/quote]
So nicky does that mean you penis is actually just over 3.5 inches?? If you don't believe the other guys that post their size then why should anybody believe you?? I will admit that some of the claimed sizes do seem a bit exagerated but if you expect us to believe your stated size then you shouldn't be so quick to judge others for their size claim. It's kinda like "the pot calling the kettle black".
Cobalt Blue
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No, what I said was I doubted the claims of people purporting to be bigger than the biggest on medical record. It is well documented that the amount of blood needed to inflate these fictitious monsters would cause such a drop in blood-pressure to the brain, that they would cause unconciousness.
My size is not so unusual. I wait for video evidence of the fifteen inchers...
My size is not so unusual. I wait for video evidence of the fifteen inchers...
[quote author=nicky link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=20#29 date=04/19/04 at 09:16:22] It is well documented that the amount of blood needed to inflate these fictitious monsters would cause such a drop in blood-pressure to the brain, that they would cause unconciousness.[/quote]
No, that's not 'well documented'; it's 'widely rumoured', and it's false. The heart does not re-route blood from the brain to supply it to the penis. If there is not sufficient blood to erect the penis without depriving the other body parts, then the penis simply doesn't fully erect. After joining this board I asked one of the anatomy professors at Tulane University if the claims of 16 inch penes we see from time to time were possible. He replied that they are possible in theory, but any penis over a certain size (dependant on the size of its bearer) would be at least somewhat non-erectile because of the needed supply of blood to erect it while still supplying the rest of the body with its blood needs. So while a man 5'10" tall, weighing approximately 200 lbs., could indeed have a 16" cock, it would be non-functional simply because the body doesn't produce enough blood to render it otherwise, and no amount of Viagra or Levitra can change that biological fact. I have met someone who actually is slightly past the 14" mark, and he can't get beyond about half hard.
No, that's not 'well documented'; it's 'widely rumoured', and it's false. The heart does not re-route blood from the brain to supply it to the penis. If there is not sufficient blood to erect the penis without depriving the other body parts, then the penis simply doesn't fully erect. After joining this board I asked one of the anatomy professors at Tulane University if the claims of 16 inch penes we see from time to time were possible. He replied that they are possible in theory, but any penis over a certain size (dependant on the size of its bearer) would be at least somewhat non-erectile because of the needed supply of blood to erect it while still supplying the rest of the body with its blood needs. So while a man 5'10" tall, weighing approximately 200 lbs., could indeed have a 16" cock, it would be non-functional simply because the body doesn't produce enough blood to render it otherwise, and no amount of Viagra or Levitra can change that biological fact. I have met someone who actually is slightly past the 14" mark, and he can't get beyond about half hard.
[quote author=DoubleMeatWhopper link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=20#30 date=04/19/04 at 10:30:21]
No, that's not 'well documented'; it's 'widely rumoured', and it's false. The heart does not re-route blood from the brain to supply it to the penis. If there is not sufficient blood to erect the penis without depriving the other body parts, then the penis simply doesn't fully erect. After joining this board I asked one of the anatomy professors at Tulane University if the claims of 16 inch penes we see from time to time were possible. He replied that they are possible in theory, but any penis over a certain size (dependant on the size of its bearer) would be at least somewhat non-erectile because of the needed supply of blood to erect it while still supplying the rest of the body with its blood needs. So while a man 5'10" tall, weighing approximately 200 lbs., could indeed have a 16" cock, it would be non-functional simply because the body doesn't produce enough blood to render it otherwise, and no amount of Viagra or Levitra can change that biological fact. I have met someone who actually is slightly past the 14" mark, and he can't get beyond about half hard.[/quote]
Remember kids:
~Your science lesson today... and everyone should pay attention... heh-heh:
"Finite amount of blood = finite erection capability."
~And your metaphysics lesson for today is:
"Infinite imagination = infinite cock size."
LoL..... my apologies if this one offends anyone, but had to go there. Outtie.
No, that's not 'well documented'; it's 'widely rumoured', and it's false. The heart does not re-route blood from the brain to supply it to the penis. If there is not sufficient blood to erect the penis without depriving the other body parts, then the penis simply doesn't fully erect. After joining this board I asked one of the anatomy professors at Tulane University if the claims of 16 inch penes we see from time to time were possible. He replied that they are possible in theory, but any penis over a certain size (dependant on the size of its bearer) would be at least somewhat non-erectile because of the needed supply of blood to erect it while still supplying the rest of the body with its blood needs. So while a man 5'10" tall, weighing approximately 200 lbs., could indeed have a 16" cock, it would be non-functional simply because the body doesn't produce enough blood to render it otherwise, and no amount of Viagra or Levitra can change that biological fact. I have met someone who actually is slightly past the 14" mark, and he can't get beyond about half hard.[/quote]
Remember kids:
~Your science lesson today... and everyone should pay attention... heh-heh:
"Finite amount of blood = finite erection capability."
~And your metaphysics lesson for today is:
"Infinite imagination = infinite cock size."
LoL.....
my apologies if this one offends anyone, but had to go there. Outtie.[quote author=manta88ray link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=20#31 date=04/19/04 at 16:33:33]
Remember kids:
~Your science lesson today... and everyone should pay attention... heh-heh:
"Finite amount of blood = finite erection capability."
~And your metaphysics lesson for today is:
"Infinite imagination = infinite cock size."
LoL..... my apologies if this one offends anyone, but had to go there. Outtie.[/quote]
And somewhere in Texas there's a village missing it's Idiot!!!!
Remember kids:
~Your science lesson today... and everyone should pay attention... heh-heh:
"Finite amount of blood = finite erection capability."
~And your metaphysics lesson for today is:
"Infinite imagination = infinite cock size."
LoL.....
my apologies if this one offends anyone, but had to go there. Outtie.[/quote]And somewhere in Texas there's a village missing it's Idiot!!!!
Simon9: To answer the basic question, no I don't believe a lot of the claims posted on these boards, either.
I believe some "monster" sized schlongs DO exist. I also (and the odds of this happening totally amaze me!) saw what I'm sure must be the same guy that Donk and DMW saw at the airport -- I also saw him at an airport urinal playing with his pet python many years ago.
But that aside, I strongly suspect many of the "high-end" claims of size and function here are bogus. I know that a few of our fellow posters are, flatly, liars. And they know who they are.
I believe some "monster" sized schlongs DO exist. I also (and the odds of this happening totally amaze me!) saw what I'm sure must be the same guy that Donk and DMW saw at the airport -- I also saw him at an airport urinal playing with his pet python many years ago.
But that aside, I strongly suspect many of the "high-end" claims of size and function here are bogus. I know that a few of our fellow posters are, flatly, liars. And they know who they are.
Cobalt Blue
Legendary Member
Exactly Simon.
Like I said in my previous post, I look forward to seeing video evidence of all these fifteen-inchers...
I stress video evidence because I've seen enough morphed-in-PhotoShop monster-cocks to start my own website.
Once and for all, guys, let's get real here, please! :-X
Like I said in my previous post, I look forward to seeing video evidence of all these fifteen-inchers...
I stress video evidence because I've seen enough morphed-in-PhotoShop monster-cocks to start my own website.
Once and for all, guys, let's get real here, please! :-X
Faircrest: Just my .02.....
I too doubt many of the claims on this board. However, i also acknowledge that there are plenty of honest guys that are well hung on this board. So, I just do not think it warrants my concern to distinguish who the liars are. Obviously, they have some deeply troubling psychological problem. (I mean, why would you lie on a Support group??? Not like it will impress anyone, we are all endowed, just some more than others.)
On this site, I am definitely on the small end of the spectrum. But I see no reason to lie, or exagerate. In fact, in order to get sound advice from the group, I find it is more helpful to tell the truth. All in all I do not see any point in the liars of the board, and I definitely dont see the point in worrying about them either.
Ken
I too doubt many of the claims on this board. However, i also acknowledge that there are plenty of honest guys that are well hung on this board. So, I just do not think it warrants my concern to distinguish who the liars are. Obviously, they have some deeply troubling psychological problem. (I mean, why would you lie on a Support group??? Not like it will impress anyone, we are all endowed, just some more than others.)
On this site, I am definitely on the small end of the spectrum. But I see no reason to lie, or exagerate. In fact, in order to get sound advice from the group, I find it is more helpful to tell the truth. All in all I do not see any point in the liars of the board, and I definitely dont see the point in worrying about them either.
Ken
[quote author=Gubernogin link=board=meetgreet;num=1079591233;start=20#32 date=04/19/04 at 20:04:31]
And somewhere in Texas there's a village missing it's Idiot!!!![/quote]
Huh? Was this a dig? Cause I really did not mean to offend anyone. I might be very naive, but I pretty much take everyone's claims at face value... sometimes with a raised eyebrow... but I accept most anything... except attacks on people's character.... lol, unless that was a joke in which case it was pretty funny....
And somewhere in Texas there's a village missing it's Idiot!!!![/quote]
Huh? Was this a dig? Cause I really did not mean to offend anyone. I might be very naive, but I pretty much take everyone's claims at face value... sometimes with a raised eyebrow... but I accept most anything... except attacks on people's character.... lol, unless that was a joke in which case it was pretty funny....
john_jones9: Glad to see there are some reasonable people on this site. The site has a lot of guys, especially in the Young and Hung section, with outrageous claims, and by that I mean over 10-11x7-8.
I know big ones exist, but they're exceedingly rare. Sure testorerone makes things grow, but the genes limit things. There's got to be a perfect alignment to get things "past the end of a ruler."
It's a pity that a guy with 8-8.5" considers himself on the small end of the spectrum. Even in todays porn industry that's at or a little above the average male porn actor's size.
I know big ones exist, but they're exceedingly rare. Sure testorerone makes things grow, but the genes limit things. There's got to be a perfect alignment to get things "past the end of a ruler."
It's a pity that a guy with 8-8.5" considers himself on the small end of the spectrum. Even in todays porn industry that's at or a little above the average male porn actor's size.
john_jones9: And oh by the way, since posting my diatribe last week I haven't recieved one PM with any sort of proof from the "big" guys on the board. Only some replies from those "big" guys complaining about cross posting.
HORSEHUNGshowoff: what was your diatribe if I may ask ?
Yeah bro its quite sad but I quickly discovered almost all of the guys on here are fakes or posers........... there are a few REAL HUNG guys on here and most of them I know so give up on chasing the losers, evidently the moderators dont feel the integrity of the site is worth them having some rules creating less dreamers
HORSE
Yeah bro its quite sad but I quickly discovered almost all of the guys on here are fakes or posers........... there are a few REAL HUNG guys on here and most of them I know so give up on chasing the losers, evidently the moderators dont feel the integrity of the site is worth them having some rules creating less dreamers
HORSE
