I think the original point of my topic has far been exceeded. I find myself researching deeply into something that quite frankly doesn't effect me. More and more I'm thinking, let the ppl with HIV that are taking the meds do the research, theyre the ones that stand to gain or lose on what is being put forward.
Really it's ludicrous that I have to research extensively so I can prove I'm not an idiot for being confused by the video. True I'm no expert, but then neither are the ppl that refuse to even watch the video(my original purpose)but call me an idiot for believing it anyway. And standing up against this kind of mentality is like trying to convince Jehovas why their beliefs are wrong to me. It's not going to work even if Duesberg et al. were right(meaning researching every single paper, getting a degree in chemistry and biology and discovering for myself that Duesberg et al. was right), most here have already made up their fucking minds anyway(sorry for calling that closedminded, but I just can't seem to think of any other word to describe it).
BTW: It's been commented many times already, and this is the last time I'm going to respond to this particular statement, namely:
"If you believe HIV doesn't cause AIDS why don't you infect yourself?"
First off, I said I was confused I don't know who to believe, thus I'm not sure.
Secondly everyone else on this forum seems cocksure that HIV does cause AIDS. If they really believe that why don't they try and take AZT and see if they don't develop AIDS, this way they can refute Duesberg statement that HIV is harmless.Coz if they didn't develop AIDS that would mean the statements Duesberg made were false.
If you're so sure and i'm an idiot, if you're HIV negative, take AZT and if you don't develop immune deficiency I'm the idiot, ok?
Andro,
I do not claim you are an idiot for being confused by the video. It is a very slick video that makes a number of persuasive claims. It is no wonder that many people find it compelling.
However, you are surely an idiot for expecting to come to a big penis site, where there are no experts in this field and expecting that somehow you would find the answers here.
I maintain that your actual goal was to troll the forum with science denialism propaganda, which if true, is extremely irresponsible. If this is true, you join the ranks of Thabo Mbeki and others who are directly responsible for a horrendous number of deaths through crackpot science denialims in this area.
My refusal to enter into a debate over the video has nothing to do with being closeminded. It has all to do with the fact that without the proper training in the field, my opinion, and the opinion of others here is not going to give you any answers, nor is it going to further the state of the art of the science in this area.
If you are truly on a personal research project, I recommend you take your questions to a forum where there are people who are very knowledgable about the subject.
Let me introduce you to
Dr. Tara Smith, Assistant Professor of Epidemiology in Iowa, specializing in molecular epidemiology, with interests in microbial ecology, emerging diseases, zoonosoes, and infectious causes of chronic disease. She has written extensively on the subject of HIV/AIDS denialism, and her blog is frequented by experts in the field who discuss this all the time. Assuming you are genuinely interested in resolving your confusion, Dr. Smith's blog is a much better place to find your answers than here at the big penis forum.
My expectations are that you will not go there to ask these questions if your main goal was to troll denialism propaganda. I also expect that you will claim that you are really interested in the answers, but Dr. Smith's site is unsuitable because she is part of the mainstream scientific community and therefore untrustworthy.
In the process, you will refuse to believe anything that is put forth by the mainstream scientific community, and ironically, anyone who becomes suspicious of your motives you will call "close-minded".
