Sorry to have miss judge your arguments.
It's a good discussion we have here and it's good we don't have the same view on the subject.
Please don't interpret my discussion and questioning as a way to propagate cis-gendered straight white view. If you follow the discussion, it's about something else
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I know most viewer don't have an opinion on the matter or don't share my values. A discussion is to start a learning process and have a better understanding at the end. If you don't have anything to say other then criticize the guy who post. Just don't say anything. But I do value your intake on the LGBTQ since I'm not.
It's hard to get your view on the subject, Other then "It's money talk". Do you think the concerns I mention are wrong or bias?
It's the third time you mention my erroneous stats?! Maybe I'm missing something? what's wrong with it? I'm more then happy to fixe a wrong information on my stats. I just don't know what your referring too.
With good intention, I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks
I can assure you at no time was my efforts or intention here to criticize; quite the contrary. If you read my first post, you'll see I was taken aback by your Thread/Opening Post. Your reply to that, quite frankly, gave me more cause for pause. I'm glad that we now appear able to move past that.
I am happy to have a discussion with anyone here pretty much about anything IF that discussion is truly open to various opinions and when expressed, supported by facts. Facts matter. I'm aware that one can find pretty much any source on the intraweb that will support whatever position one wishes to take. I'm not one to accept "stats" when I know they are not truly accurate or representative of what it is being discussed.
As a gay man, I've had my share of being made to feel lesser than. For no other reason that my sexuality. And that's exactly how your Opening Post in this thread, presented as it was, made me feel. While it may not have been your intention, it struck me as more "how dare non-straight white people" be portrayed in TV and movies. That's why I challenged it and you. Because quite frankly, it's about damn time that TV and movies reflect the reality in which I live.
It's why you see more content that feature inter-racial couples. Same-sex couples. Inter-racial same-sex couples. And on and on. Because that's a reflection of what's going on in society. And, never forget that content creators know which demographics have the most spending power, or disposable income, if you will. Marketing is always happening. And savvy marketers adjust as society adjusts. Because the bottom line is always: how can I maximize my bottom line monetarily. Making money.
Today, there are a lot more than 1-6% who ID as non-hetereo. Important to remember that not every person has been or will be canvassed for how they choose to identify. That's why when I read stats, I consider the fact that it's a sampling. Of very few people in the big scheme of how many humans there are on this planet. And sadly, many people are simply afraid to identify when asked other than straight. Just about the only "class" of folks not looked down upon by mainstream society IMO.
I've learned through my 10 years at LPSG a lot about a lot that I had no idea even was a thing. I had no clue that so many men who identify as Straight will have sex with another man, yet they still ID as straight. I can't wrap my brain around that, though I do say I have tried. Or that if that same "straight" married man is fooling around with another man sexually, it's not cheating. That somehow it's only cheating when it's with another woman. WTF?
And while you or I don't have to necessarily understand all the different classifications and identities that exist now, it's important to accept that many people no longer choose to identify as gay, straight or bi. As has been the norm until recent times. I don't profess to know all the different identities that people use to describe themselves now, but it's a hell of a lot more than those three. Much more specific to each person. I love that.
Who am I to tell any other person how they should choose to identify? Because I don't want anyone to tell me how to identify. That's my personal choice. And if I wish to have my personal choice respected, we should do the same of others, no?
Society is too quick in trying to pigeonhole people into those categories or assign labels to those who are different from them. Rather than engage and learn about that which they don't know. I've always been a huge believer that ignorance can be overcome, stupid not so much.
Now, to the subject of your thread.
No, I don't care about how many characters on TV or in movies are gay, straight, bi, pansexual, demisexual, whatever. I don't care if a straight person is hired to play a gay role or a gay person is hired to play a straight role. Or any other identification. I get that Hollywood often casts (miscasts at times!) actors because of their box office pull. Or other popularity.
What I care about is that type of character's role and/or portrayal is not stereotypical or promote such. Or gratuitous. That it contributes to the story. I think that's what most viewers want. A time to escape their reality and be entertained. And maybe even find out they learned something without realizing they did!
Let me finish by saying I firmly believe every human being is flawed. Regardless of how we choose to identify or how society chooses to label us. Being whatever doesn't make anyone a better person because of that; it's their character and how they choose to treat and understand their fellow man. And if someone is a good person with an open heart, sit them next to me!
At the end of the day, humans are much more alike than different. I find it funny that we raise young people to be unique. Be yourself. And when being themselves means identifying as something other than cis-gendered white straight, that's when the issues begin to surface.
I apologize for the long-windedness with this post. Your thread struck a nerve. I hope we can all have a viable and open discussion in which we all may learn a thing or two or three.
