Does Situational Homosexuality Actually Happen?

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We always hear about how men will "turn gay" in prison. Does this ever actually happen though? I've never heard of this actually happening though from word of mouth or first hand knowledge.

Does anyone have any experiences being in an all guys environment(military, etc.) and can attest to how common or uncommon it is?
 
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I think prison is a separate case as trauma and survival are mitigating factors as to the actions people will take.
As far as other situations it think its more a matter of unknown or unacknowledged homo or bi erotic fantasies and thoughts being acted upon by men whom merely are straight by societal default, unaware or denying of their underlying fluidity.
So no i dont think actually straight men, those whose romantic and sexual urges are aimed exclusively towards cis women or the cis female archetype, incidentally become or engage in gay activities.
 

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I agree with Sagittarius84.

I really wonder if a man who had never been aware of or acknowledged in any way, any sexual attraction to another man, i.e. 100% straight, would find being deprived of sex with women so hard (no pun intended) that he would switch to having sex with other men. If other men were all that was available I suspect he would simply masturbate to private fantasies of women rather than engage with the men around him.

But that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of men who are living straight lives who would do something with other men if that is all that is available. But these will be men who are aware of at least some level of sexual attraction to other men, even if it is weak compared to their attraction to women.

So it's much the same as the question that has been asked before about men seeming to become more bisexual, i.e. less straight, more prepared to have some fun with other men, as they get older. I think the attraction was always there but it wasn't dominant and expressing the attraction for women, and suppressing the attraction to men was the course of least resistance when younger.

I also don't think there is anything dishonest about this - in monogamy, your partner at any given time can only be either a woman or man.
 

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1st few times I cum with another person, was with a guy jerking me off at an early age. It felt good, however I still prefer women. Never had a BJ as a teen, from a guy. Still not into that, though I will trade handjobs.

Still that way. Prefer women, but willing to trade handjobs. Want nothing to do with cock's in the mouth, just hands on each other and no ass play either.

Just my preference. I rate rather low on the scale, but still like hand play with a cock now and then.
 

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Yes it is called prison.

Well of course there will be gay sex going on in prison. But is there any correlation between sexual orientation and criminal behaviour? Probably not so a proportion of the prison population will be gay and a proportion will be bisexual, whether that with more equal attraction to each sex or the people who have appeared to be straight on the outside.

So the big question is "Is the rate of gay sex in prison higher than can be explained by this?". Then if the rate is higher than this, is it men so desperate for sex that they discover they can function sexually with another man for the first time having never considered it before? Or are some cases more about dominance than sex?
 

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Know a few straight guys, married kids the whole lot. Who will be up for some gay fun when deployed away and surrounded by mostly guys.
The actually straight guys you know, when deployed and surrounded by mostly men, are either quietly masturbating, or making a low key play for what few women may be in the area. What you are observing is bisexual men discreetly engaging in activities which would publicly or societally stifle their careers, social standing, or opportunities with women.
 
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The actually straight guys you know, when deployed and surrounded by mostly men, are either quietly masturbating, or making a low key play for what few women may be in the area. What you are observing is bisexual men discreetly engaging in activities which would publicly or societally stifle their careers, social standing, or opportunities with women.
I think you have a lot of rigid preconceived notions, and are trying to present them as sexual law. Sexuality isn't as delineated as you seem to think.

Most of my friends are in the military. We have had graphically open discussions over drinks on many late nights over the years. So, I know from experience what the OP is talking about, while you think you know from personal theory.

That isn't even taking into consideration experimentation as you grow up and figure life out.

To the OP: it happens all the time, but I wouldn't call it homosexuality. It's just sex. It's ok to get off with another guy and not have a label thrown at it.
 
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I think you have a lot of rigid preconceived notions, and are trying to present them as sexual law. Sexuality isn't as delineated as you seem to think.

Most of my friends are in the military. We have had graphically open discussions over drinks on many late nights over the years. So, I know from experience what the OP is talking about, while you think you know from personal theory.

That isn't even taking into consideration experimentation as you grow up and figure life out.

To the OP: it happens all the time, but I wouldn't call it homosexuality. It's just sex. It's ok to get off with another guy and not have a label thrown at it.
My notions are actually quite fluid and liberal, reality is the unfortunate source of rigidness. If this were an issue of trans entanglement perhaps there would be more nuanced debates to be had, but consensual and sought out sex with the same gender(especially on a consistent or prolonged basis), even with the absence of a romantic or emotional relationship delegitimizes the straight/heterosexual moniker period. At that point the person exists as homosexual/bisexual even if their hetero-amorous lifestyle causes them to identify as "straight".
Im not blind to the disdain for labels in this particular genre, but im also not naive enough to believe said disdain would still be anywhere near as present if there wasnt such a social stigma against bisexuality, specifically bisexual men as it pertains to their social lives and standing, careers, and desired relationships with women.
 
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Not according to what you wrote in this thread. I would use the word implacable.

reality is the unfortunate source of rigidness. I
Your opinion doesn't make it a reality. There is an entire world of people out there with personal experiences that directly counter what you are saying. You don't have to listen to them, but it might help to keep an open mind.

but consensual and sought out sex with the same gender(especially on a consistent or prolonged basis), even with the absence of a romantic or emotional relationship delegitimizes the straight/heterosexual moniker period. At that point the person exists as homosexual/bisexual even if their hetero-amorous lifestyle causes them to identify as "straight".
The OP is talking about situational sex. You are talking about something entirely different, which has nothing to do with the conversation. If someone identifies as straight/heterosexual and they have an encounter with someone of the same sex- once, twice, or whatever- and they still identify as straight/hetero, you simply do not have the right to step in and tell them that isn't the case, and to get into the little box you think they belong in. Ease up on how broadly you paint people with your labels.
 

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Not according to what you wrote in this thread. I would use the word implacable.


Your opinion doesn't make it a reality. There is an entire world of people out there with personal experiences that directly counter what you are saying. You don't have to listen to them, but it might help to keep an open mind.


The OP is talking about situational sex. You are talking about something entirely different, which has nothing to do with the conversation. If someone identifies as straight/heterosexual and they have an encounter with someone of the same sex- once, twice, or whatever- and they still identify as straight/hetero, you simply do not have the right to step in and tell them that isn't the case, and to get into the little box you think they belong in. Ease up on how broadly you paint people with your labels.
Someone may choose to identify themselves as a potato. The fact that objective reality doesnt concur with that notion doesn't preclude themselves from doing so...
And though I understand that experimental homosexual experiences are the meat most people grasped upon within this thread, OP also specifically alluded to "turning gay" which implies future sexual experiences going beyond just the situational...Im not trying to establish some hierarchy of masculinity here, and i think i could definitely see both sides of the argument of "straightness" when a sexually inexperienced man perhaps has a couple of dalliances with other men. And perhaps we do need additional vocabulary to properly identify whats going on, but i suspect when strictly heterosexual men(specifically those with no desire to engage in any sort of romantic or sexual activity with the male archetype, nor any history of doing so) opt to delineate themselves from the annexed moniker of straight/heterosexual for a label themselves, you're going to find a lot of formerly classified bisexual, homosexual, "straight/heterosexual" men wanting to adopt that label as their new identification.
 
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And if we want to get real specific the very title refers not to situational same sex encounters or situational experimentation...but literally situational homosexuality. The title itself(with which no one who seems to think my opinion is rigid had any apparent issue) speaks to the aforementioned acts being inherently homosexual in nature and not some nebulous, benign self identification of heterosexual behavior and sexual preference.