does the footlong exist?

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Ah, faith. What a remarkable human trait it is. And skeptics are often branded killjoy meanies for not believing without proof.

There's plenty of observable things in this life that cause me awe and wonder and science is pushing the boundaries of the observable all the time. Improbably big wangs (measured) are quite low on that list as they're more a freakshow than of any practical use to all but a nearly equally small subset of women.
 

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Thanks Cal. Let's look at this:

  • "I have seen a few footlong cocks in my time" (paraphrased quote from some LPSG members in various threads).
  • Let's say "few" means three. That's being conservative.
  • Let's say "footlong" means 10 inches or more erect. That's being conservative too.
  • Let's say Silvertip's stats are too harsh, and instead of 1 in 500,000 being 10 inches, we'll be generous and say it's FIVE times that number, 1 in 100,000. That's also being extremely conservative.

So statistically speaking, in order to see three "footlong" cocks, you would not only have to had met 300,000 men, not only seen 300,000 men naked, but you would have (statistically) had to have seen 300,000 men naked AND erect.

And that's giving every doubt in your favour with the overly-conservative figures above.

Does that put this kind of ludicrous claim into perspective?

As you know, I share your attitude of reasoned skepticism toward these claims, but your statistical reasoning is erroneous. If we assume that one man in 100,000 has a cock of ten inches' length or greater, that does not mean that to meet one, you would have to see 100,000 men's cocks. In fact, the sentence-form "To find one, you would have to see ___ men's cocks" is senseless no matter what number you put in the blank.

What you can say is that in order for the chance of your finding such a one to rise above a particular value, there is a certain minimum number that you would have to sample (assuming random selection), or that if you randomly sampled 100,000 men, there is a certain probability that at least one of them would have a penis of ten inches' length or greater, on the given assumptions. If 1 in 100,000 has a penis in that range, then for any randomly selected man, the probability that his penis will not be in that range is 99,999/100,000 or 0.99999. If you repeat the sampling 100,000 times, then the chance that none of the men will have a penis in that range is approximately* 0.99999 to the 100,000th power. If I've done my calculations correctly (with the help of an on-line logarithmic calculator), the resulting figure is approximately 0.95. That means that even if you look at 100,000 guys picked at random, the probability that one of them will have a penis over ten inches long is still only 5%. It's far more improbable than even you imagined!

*I say "approximately" because this calculation does not make the assumption that you sample 100,000 unique individuals: the same guy could get picked twice. To add the assumption that 100,000 are sampled uniquely, you would have to specify what the total population is from which you are sampling and the calculations would get more complicated.

If I've made any error in my calculations, I hope that someone with a better command than mine of the pertinent mathematics will give the correct calculations and results.
 

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I have in my lifetime known of two people who were measured by me personally and in this size range. One of the two males serves in Law Enforcement in Southern California and the other is now deceased of complications from HIV combined with alcoholism and drug addiction.

Both of these people considered their size to be a curse and not a plus. I worked with the late Gary Griffin for years. He had the statistics and he had the photos before we had the availability of digital alteration. Gary had numerous pictures and actual proof. The problem was that upon Gary's passing most of it was destroyed.

These people had horrible lives. The law enforcement officer goes through hell every day trying to cover up his endowment. He cannot wear conventional swimwear, he has to always stand up to urinate and he has to place his penis over his legs toward one of his hips while holding his legs together while trying to do other toilet related business. If he doesn't do this the penis slips down into the water in the toilet bowl. He has had plenty of offers, but, now in his 50's has yet to ever have a satisfactory relationship in a conventional manner. His girth is such (and I have seen this personally) that doing oral would be difficult for most.

The second fellow was always treated as a "possession" rather than as a human being. Again his size created great curiosity and little satisfaction. He was about 6'2" tall and weighed about 145 pounds when he was healthy. He always had incredible problems and many were based in his inability to have again any normal kind of relationship.

People want it, they talk, but when it comes down to the bottom line they do not know how to satisfy anyone this size in any manner that was satisfactory.

In both cases even at younger ages both have had consistent problems with erectile dysfunction. It is very difficult to get something that large all the way up and have it stay there.

Yes, these do exist. The reason that they are not documented is because most of these people in truth do not have pleasant lives and they do not want to display the item that has in most cases made or at least has been blamed for their misery.

Finding something of this size in reality is something like the same odds of winning Powerball. It is so rare as to almost be a "museum piece" rather than a bodily organ.

In truth there are good arguments for both sides. Most men selected for gay porn are hand picked for the proportion between their bodies and their genitals. A 7" dick on a 5'2" male looks very large. An 8" dick on a male of the same body size looks almost deformed. The porn industry wants to arouse and they do this by successfully creating an illusion.

One of the people I knew in my lifetime was Drew Okun who was on the porn screen as "Al Parker". In truth he was about 5'6" tall and his penis size was in the eight inch range.

Over a certain size medical problems usually go with the overly large ones. The main one being erectile dysfunction setting in by the time one is 25 years old. Considering all the problems to me it is fully understandible as to why the rare people who are this large rarely if ever come forward for photography. To them it is a headache and not something to exibit or be proud of.......
 

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I was listening to a Spanish radio talk show that does a show on sex and health issues and the host was telling a story of a time he was urinating in a public restroom. Then a very well endowed man starts taking a piss next to him. He just had to say something like, "Wow, you are lucky."

Then the guy looked at his and asked, "Does yours function?"
"yes"
Then he said, "Well Id rather have yours, that functions, then to be this size."
 

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As you know, I share your attitude of reasoned skepticism toward these claims, but your statistical reasoning is erroneous.

Mules certainly are not known for their mathematical skills, and I kinda knew that I was shooting in the dark there. Thanks for the elaboration and correction, Cal.

The point stands: It's almost impossible for one person to have personally seen several 10"+ men, let alone several LPSG members claiming to have met several.

And then there are the myriad claims of 10, 11, 12 and even 13 inchers here. With no convincing evidence. :rolleyes:

I suspect that, like a lot of the posts on this site, the "facts" claimed are more to do with fantasy than real experience. Perhaps some of those members who have somehow managed to meet many footlong-hung men could supply me with next week's Powerball numbers?
 
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RE #105

When I hear the huge-dicked men tell their tales of misery I think of them the same way I think of folks with enormous wealth.
If God did grant their spoken wish to be "just like everybody else" they would quickly believe the old adage "be careful what you ask for, you may get it".
 

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Most cocks are around the statistical average. There are positive variances from the norm. It needs to be said that we are talking about a minority, and the bigger you go the smaller the number. The problem with measuring donkey dicks is that one normally doesn't have a tape measure handy, aside from the fact whether it is actually possible. So you are forced to relie on your own powers of observation and memory. Turning to my own experiences here : I have seen a handful of guys who would qualify. None would be over 10 inches (250mm). There is very little difference between a large cock erect and flaccid. It needs to be acknowledged that some of these men are tall guys anyway. There are some practical disadvantages in having a large cock as some others have indicated. The largest I have seen and been able to estimate was about 230mm erect. Howard.
 

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Most cocks are around the statistical average. There are positive variances from the norm. It needs to be said that we are talking about a minority, and the bigger you go the smaller the number. The problem with measuring donkey dicks is that one normally doesn't have a tape measure handy, aside from the fact whether it is actually possible. So you are forced to relie on your own powers of observation and memory. Turning to my own experiences here : I have seen a handful of guys who would qualify. None would be over 10 inches (250mm). There is very little difference between a large cock erect and flaccid. It needs to be acknowledged that some of these men are tall guys anyway. There are some practical disadvantages in having a large cock as some others have indicated. The largest I have seen and been able to estimate was about 230mm erect. Howard.


in your first sentence the "statistical average" let me to do some math
according to the lifestyle penis survey the average length is 6.17 inches with a standard divation of 0.67
according to my calculations this means that 1 of 10 men has a dick that is longer than 7.1 inches
1 of 100 is bigger than 7.9
1 of 1000 is bigger than 8.6

according to kinsey they are only 5000 men with a 10+ dick out there
 

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in your first sentence the "statistical average" let me to do some math
according to the lifestyle penis survey the average length is 6.17 inches with a standard divation of 0.67
according to my calculations this means that 1 of 10 men has a dick that is longer than 7.1 inches
1 of 100 is bigger than 7.9
1 of 1000 is bigger than 8.6

according to kinsey they are only 5000 men with a 10+ dick out there

So in other words - a footlong would be highly unlikely... :rolleyes:
 

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if thats the case, then whats with all these women saying that they cant feel anything less then a x" long by y" thick dick? i mean...at over 8, im statistically large, and i know that know after having been around, but i remember when i was younger reading these posts, i would always be afraid of running into one of these women who would laugh at me and say "haha, you dont even break 9" you should go kill yourself."

sorry for the rant, but wouldnt there have to be a lot of big fellas out there to facilitate all these rumors and satisfy all these size queens?

My favorite joke is that women are so bad at judging distances because their entire lives, someone is telling them that 5.5" is 9"...

Seriously, I've had a couple of girlfriends tell me that someone is "huge" (beer can around, as long as her forearm, yada,yada,yada), and it happened that I either had sex with the same guy before or after the fact. Not once where they even close to the actual measurements (yeah, I'm one of those freaky people that are really good at figuring out distances... maybe it's art training). One of those ladies is a self-proclaimed size queen.

Seems like perception of size goes wildly subjective after the first 8" - a 9" cock can be described as anywhere between 9" and 13"...