Does the USA dominate the world?

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sure seems that way. what country haven't we invaded in some capacity, even if its just in the forms of media(entertainment, advertising, *propaganda, gadgets, accessories etc), USA seems to be involved with almost every country in the world for some odd reason? we play the role of moral conductor, we play the police, and we give other countries allowance money wtf. One can also argue that the world actually dominates the USA= Israel makes more money than my home state every year. Its hard to tell whose in charge of what anymore
 
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Well Egg... Right now from where I am N Korea is telling them F*£^$% you.[SE ASia]
But from an Amircun point of view you shure as hell do...
shure seems like the USA is resting on the laurels of the glorious past. And that past is glorious . The light of democracy and freedom and equality for all . The light that burned so very brightly and was wasted by greed and opportunism.
The goodwill and love that the USA engendered has been squandered and wasted by the generation that valued mamon above all.

So I suppose from NYC it seems to you that are on top of the world.
One hopes that your opinion is in a minority in NYC, and indeed the US as a whole.
USA is one part of a global world.
 

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So I suppose from NYC it seems to you that are on top of the world.
One hopes that your opinion is in a minority in NYC, and indeed the US as a whole.
USA is one part of a global world.

why would my opinion be a bad thing? i am tired of our country having 1 foot in every place at all times. i want things to be more focused at home and not across the world. i think we need to mind our business and let other countries operate the way they want to, the way we get to. frankly we need to become more like Australia.
 
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petergroot, I would have thought you'd back up egg. He did write wtf, after all.

My opinion is that it is precisely America's unrelenting drive to saturate the world with its kind of fast food and music and clothes and anything-goes morals that has instigated attacks against the United States. Its canny mission to get some of every dollar spent anywhere in the world back into the coffers of US companies, and local economies be damned. Let them earn just enough to keep buying our products.

Bush said "they" hate us because of our freedom, which is patently absurd and just another version of "don't hate me because I'm beautiful". They hate us because we've disregarded or stolen their way of life, manipulated their economies, arrogantly put military bases and deployments all over the world and we prefer to be a big swinging dick instead of a global team player. Hell, if I lived in any of those countries I'd hate us, too.

But the US is rotting from within. Our manufacturing base is gutted, our financial system is thoroughly corrupt and/or inept, our political system is nearing paralysis (and dominated by filthy lucre) and we're dumbing down our students to the point that in a generation or two we'll be globally unemployable.

I'd like to think this course can be changed, but I'm not hopeful. Europe let us sack some of their economies, and they won't do it again. Meanwhile, they have the infrastructure and the brainpower to run circles around us after they recover. And China is an economic and political Audrey II in regard to the USA, and if we think there's still time to electrocute her we've got another thing coming.

This will be an interesting century. The US can come through it well only if it gets off its current course and thoroughly reinvents itself along the lines of fairness, innovation, positivity and opportunity that the world used to associate with us. The litmus test is economic disparity: will it shrink, or will it continue to grow?
 

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... Bush said "they" hate us because of our freedom, which is patently absurd and just another version of "don't hate me because I'm beautiful". ...

So much I love the US, I perfectly agree that this story of "freedom" is absolutely ridiculous. This is a fairy tale that might have worked when e.g. Europe was still mostly monarchistic and autocratic. So, seeing the Liberty Statue from Ellis Island would be a comforting view. The romantic of liberty was a way to market the US. But, mind you, the concept of "Liberty" in the past has mostly meant to be free from being the vassal of another country, such as the US being a vassal of Britain. Same thing with Switzerland and the Austrian empire. It did not mean being free as a citizen altogether within their own country.

Quite honestly, seeing the level of personal debt within the US, how much they have to pay for university tuition, the two-class-health system, the linguistic ignorance, the constant manipulation of the news that do not present the world as it is, I honestly wonder how much freedom there is really in the States. Do you think e.g. a Swiss, an Australian etc. would really want to emigrate to the US? Please tell me I am wrong.

PS And Bush is an illiterate ignorant anyway.
 

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We are legislating to curb a lot of the shit that you have been allowed to sell people.

Can we send you the bill for cigarettes and fast food? Shit and more shit as I know it. :rolleyes:
 

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Does the USA dominate the world?







thought this was in the funnys, till i checked
glad to see it is
Think they have tried to for years
its a hidden part of the constitution, common folk dont know about

days of the British Empire building have long gone
but cant tell your leaders that?
 
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I think it was lead by example once. Now it's do as I say, not do as I do.
 

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Based on what the OP lists as evidence in the affirmation of his supposition... I'm going to posit that "dominate" is the wrong word. Is the United States prevalent in all parts of the world? Absolutely. There isn't a recognized nation anywhere on the Earth that hasn't, in some way, been impacted by the existence of the United States.

Dominate? We're last or a long way from the top in a whole host of metrics including things like literacy and mathematical ability. So that argument is harder to make. I honestly do wish someone would try to convey that to North Korea though (a threat I stopped taking seriously the minute Dennis Rodman became more internationally newsworthy than the Secretary of State.)

It's more than semantics when a question like this is posed.



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What is the metric for "dominate"? Dominate usually translates to power. It's a fairly loaded question.
 

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I think the metric for use of the word "dominate" is the adjective "rule." And financially, the argument is sound, that US currency rules the global market. S&P, in spite of the US Congress failing to reach any meaningful agreement, has maintained the status of US currency throughout this debacle.

So if that is the avenue by which the US "domination" of the world is judged, through sheer financial means of payment and repayment, then sure- we "dominate." The question should be broader than that. Bring it back to basics; what are we exporting that other peoples want? What are we importing that other peoples have that we don't?

At what point is common sense not an American ideal but a human one? At what point is respect of religious doctrine an escape clause to avoidance of suppression of women and gays and other ethnic minorities in parts of the world that don't enjoy our constitution? At what point do we decide alliances for resources are outweighed by human rights?


It's complicated. But we'll only get to the answers by actually asking the questions.




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I think the metric for use of the word "dominate" is the adjective "rule." And financially, the argument is sound, that US currency rules the global market. S&P, in spite of the US Congress failing to reach any meaningful agreement, has maintained the status of US currency throughout this debacle.

So if that is the avenue by which the US "domination" of the world is judged, through sheer financial means of payment and repayment, then sure- we "dominate." The question should be broader than that. Bring it back to basics; what are we exporting that other peoples want? What are we importing that other peoples have that we don't?

At what point is common sense not an American ideal but a human one? At what point is respect of religious doctrine an escape clause to avoidance of suppression of women and gays and other ethnic minorities in parts of the world that don't enjoy our constitution? At what point do we decide alliances for resources are outweighed by human rights?


It's complicated. But we'll only get to the answers by actually asking the questions.




JSZ​

I hear you but I still think your just looking at one aspect.

Does the US dominate Diplomatically, Information, Militarily, Economically, morally, ethically, culturally?

If the argument is financially I think it is very tenuous at best.

We lead many things, but dominate is a little dubious or questionable.
 

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I hear you but I still think your just looking at one aspect.

Does the US dominate Diplomatically, Information, Militarily, Economically, morally, ethically, culturally?

If the argument is financially I think it is very tenuous at best.

We lead many things, but dominate is a little dubious or questionable.
If you lead with a to big edge, you become dominating by nature.
I isnt always a question of will and force.
 
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No matter. All great powers rise and fall. No one stays on top forever. Success is never final.
 
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If you lead with a to big edge, you become dominating by nature.
I isnt always a question of will and force.

Perados brother I wish my German was at least a little bit good, because I missed that in English. :smile: