does vagina size vary the to the same extent as cock size?

[Valkyriessong]

I don't suppose that's making you feel any better is it Valkyriessong? :happysad:

Well I keep holding onto the hope that someday I'll meet a "sex message board" man. It would be nice to see what sex is like when it lasts longer than 10-15 minutes. And I confess I'm curious (ok...envious) to see what a vaginal orgasm is like. And curious to see what being licked is like.

*shrug*

Well it'd just be interesting to be able to experience any of the things the women on this board keep reporting.


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Hmm...

No one answered my second post. I'm really curious if it's primarily physical or primarily psychological that men prefer tight vaginas. Furthermore, what qualifies as an off-the-scale, send-you-into-overdrive vagina? And no, I don't mean the mere fact you get to poke it in makes it off-the-scale. I'm talking about sensations. More bumpy? More plump? More wet? More hot? What sensations do you get from a tight woman you don't from someone big and loose?

I'd really be interested in hearing why.

 

[Riven650]

Ok Valkyriessong,
I'm listening to you. You are still making me ache with a desire to show you a good time in bed. Not sure if anything can come of that, so in the meantime what about the other question?
Vagina size: Physical or psychological thing? It's probably a bit of each, and I don't suppose you can separate the physical from the psychological. ie the physical sensation of being a pretty tight fit triggers the psychological notion of being the first, or at least the biggest yet. Either way, it gives a guy a buzz, and that buzz is about 'making himself felt', or 'getting her attention', or whatever way you put it, ie. 'she's not going to fall asleep through lack of stimulation because she can really tell she's being fucked' etc. etc. It makes you feel that you might be her biggest, and the LPSG exists as proof that size matters regardless of our reasoning that it doesn't.

Having said all the above, I realise that this subject is as much of a mine field as the penis size debate, in that it's probably as difficult to persuade a girl who knows she's not small and tight that she's gonna be a good fuck, as it is to persuade a guy who doesn't have a big cock that he's likewise going to be a good fuck. However (sorry, I don't seem to post a message that doesn't contain that word), experience has eventually told me that genuine affection for your partner is the key ingredient to successful sex. If your affection is reciprocated and you both feel generously disposed toward one another because there's no bullshit, no angst, both parties are pulling their weight, etc. etc. then good sex can happen. And great sex is then possible if you look after yourselves, stay fit, sleep well, etc. plus create a good scene for sex and take your time over it, make it last, etc. Oh yeah!

I'm going to have to go take a cold shower now. :redface:

 

[Valkyriessong]

Having said all the above, I realise that this subject is as much of a mine field as the penis size debate, in that it's probably as difficult to persuade a girl who knows she's not small and tight that she's gonna be a good fuck

But if all these guys who answered before you are correct that it's primarily physical (with a bit of mental mixed in) then while she may be a GOOD fuck she will not be a GREAT fuck vis-a-vis the tight woman - especially not compared to the tight woman who matches the looser one's sexual prowess pound-for-pound so to speak.

What physical sensations do you get from a tight one you simply can't get (or suboptimally) from a looser one?

 

[Chaz]

Is the reason guys like tight vaginas due mainly or solely to superior physical pleasure or is it mainly or solely a psychological thing of feeling 'powerful' and 'masculine' in a tighter one?

Both for sure......

 

[Principessa]

Honestly, if you have to ask, maybe you shouldn't be playing with one.

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[Valkyriessong]

Put me on Ignore, NJQT466. Your problem is solved.

 

[Riven650]

But if all these guys who answered before you are correct that it's primarily physical then while she may be a GOOD fuck she will not be a GREAT fuck vis-a-vis the tight woman - especially not compared to the tight woman who matches the looser one's sexual prowess pound-for-pound so to speak.

What physical sensations do you get from a tight one you simply can't (or suboptimally) from a looser one?

I'm digging myself in deeper here (no pun intended:wink: ) I know, but..
Sure, it's primarily a physical thing, in that first comes the physical sensation of being a tight fit; but that alone doesn't matter as a larger/looser vagina can give just as much sensation - provided it is in good shape and the muscles work well. In fact I have known one or two fit women with 'looser' vaginas who can exert far more grip than less fit women who's vaginas were definitely smaller. The psychological factor comes into play when you realise that your partner is actually finding it a bit of a struggle to accommodate you, and she's genuinely urging you to take it easy. I think that simply feeds a guy's ego. But perhaps that's telling: Most guys need a lot of ego support. I know I need a bit myself from time to time, but wheras once upon a time (thinking back to being about 16 years old now) I was very intimidated by a girl's sexual experience, I eventually learned to be damned good at sex and, so what, if the last guy you slept with had a bigger cock than me? I'm the guy you've chosen to sleep with now, and I'm going to repay that complement by making you glad of your choice. Over the years I gained a confidence that I never dreamed of in my teens and 20s. I eventually came to realise that it isn't a good idea to have sex with every one who wants you: Most of them are using you to make themselves feel big and they're competing with their mates, and they're competing with you. Fuck that. I don't want that kind of competitive recreational sex. Those people are often out to make you feel bad by comparing you unfavorably with their past lovers, they can't stop themselves, and I've learned to keep clear. I only want to have sex with a genuine lover who cares about me and wants to make me happy as much as I want to make her happy. With that kind of vibe going on it is possible to reach a level of relaxation during sex where something amazing happens. A higher level of sensation can be reached. I'm not sure how I hit upon the technique, or whatever it is, but when having sex with a woman friend B......, back in '86. Damn I'm getting long winded again. It went like this: Her husband had gone off with another woman; my longstanding gf had also two timed me and screwed up our relationship to the extent that I had a nervous breakdown, crashed my Norton and almost died. In the process of partying to get over things and carry on, I met B....... She and I were both on the rebound but we fancied each other and got together for a good time. She had 4 kids (she's the girl I mentioned earlier - the one who liked me to fistfuck her sometimes) and her shit of a hubby had a reputation for having a donkey dick. But OUR sex was amazing. I wasn't in the slightest bit bothered that I wasn't stretching her with my cock. We made each other laugh. We enjoyed talking and eating together, and were properly relaxed when we has sex. We took our time over it. Something happenned to me during those sessions. I found a way of achieving a state of calm in which I could last for ages - (as a long term sufferer of premature ejaculation this was something very new and exciting to me, and it was new to her too! I found I could get it going every time we had sex. I fucked her real, real slow, keeping it deep and just nudging her clit with the base of my cock. I'd stay in complete control of the motion, and her pussy would melt and relax then she'd come, several times, as I kept moving. She said I was the best fuck she'd ever had, by miles, and I knew she wasn't kidding me. Likewise, I'd never had such satistying sex. Our relationship wasn't to be. She hadn't finished sorting things out with hubby, and like a complete nutter I had another try with my ex. gf. But I had learned something. 2nd time round with ex. gf failed when she two timed me again (I might have guessed that would happen), but I was robust enough to dump her and walk on. Within a year I met L... and found that I could have amazing sex with her too. She had never had an orgasm during intercourse, but I was on a mission With me she bloody well did! So there you have it. L... and I had great sex too, and the rest is history (17 years) as they say; we're still married.

As far as I'm concerned Valkyriessong my lovely, vagina size has absolutely nothing to do with how good the sex can be, because when the sex is good it isn't because I'm making a girl's eyes water because it hurts, it's because she's a completely relaxed slippery wet mess and she's totally blissed out.

You just gotta learn to avoid the kind of guy who needs a tight little virgin pussy to make himself feel big and powerful, and look for a considerate, experienced guy who'll love you like a rock.
Must sleep now.
Night night. x

 

[Valkyriessong]

Cheers to you Raven.

For that you're going on my Buddy list. :smile:

 

[naughty]

But if all these guys who answered before you are correct that it's primarily physical (with a bit of mental mixed in) then while she may be a GOOD fuck she will not be a GREAT fuck vis-a-vis the tight woman - especially not compared to the tight woman who matches the looser one's sexual prowess pound-for-pound so to speak.

What physical sensations do you get from a tight one you simply can't get (or suboptimally) from a looser one?

To answer your question, this is what I heard from a male friend of mine, "It is ALL about the friction."

 

[Lordpendragon]

Well VS - you now have three experienced women-loving men saying pretty much the same thing.

I have torn my frenulum on several occasions in the past - believe me it hurts a lot, so I have a bit of a block with tighter/smaller girls, once I have confirmed their size with my mouth and fingers. TBH I make an excuse and we just do other things and I haven't had any complaints.

So I personally prefer larger girls, but it is also about the wetness. Shit don't get me started.

One thing I would say is that most vaginas have incredible potential and change during the month and at different stages of arousal and orgasm. I take a lot of trouble to sense these changes and go with it with different acts and positions - don't think I am a saint, I do it as much for my own pleasure.

 

[Valkyriessong]

What I wanted to know is was the gentleman who tried to explain it to me - did his explanation ring a bell with any of you? Can any of you sit back and try to separate the physical pleasure from the mental pleasure of a tight vagina vs. a looser one.

FYI - this gentleman is now advising me that big dicked guys wouldn't understand what he means about tight = masculine and powerful since damn near every vagina will give you that sense. Since it's all you big guys have ever known you don't have the awareness to separate the two.

I believe he thinks small and average hung men will be more aware of the physical vs. psychological dynamics that come into play between sex with a looser woman or a tighter one. And why one is more prized than the other.

 

[B_spiker067]

What I wanted to know is was the gentleman who tried to explain it to me - did his explanation ring a bell with any of you? Can any of you sit back and try to separate the physical pleasure from the mental pleasure of a tight vagina vs. a looser one.

FYI - this gentleman is now advising me that big dicked guys wouldn't understand what he means about tight = masculine and powerful since damn near every vagina will give you that sense. Since it's all you big guys have ever known you don't have the awareness to separate the two.

I believe he thinks small and average hung men will be more aware of the physical vs. psychological dynamics that come into play between sex with a looser woman or a tighter one. And why one is more prized than the other.

Hey baby, I'll make your vagina size vary, just let me know when and where.

Kidding....:biggrin1:

What do you think when you have one that stretches you and one that doesn't? Maybe what is in your head is in his head too.

 

[Valkyriessong]

What do you think when you have one that stretches you and one that doesn't? Maybe what is in your head is in his head too.

I have never had a man stretch me like the guys on this site could so I couldn't answer your question.

For that matter I haven't really been stretched enough to notice much difference between most any of the men I've been with.

 

[Lordpendragon]

I can understand what your friend is saying VS and your assessment of what bigger guys experience is probably correct as well. I get the psychological ego boost from a woman orgasming.

 

[Love-it]

Well I keep holding onto the hope that someday I'll meet a "sex message board" man. It would be nice to see what sex is like when it lasts longer than 10-15 minutes. And I confess I'm curious (ok...envious) to see what a vaginal orgasm is like. And curious to see what being licked is like.

No one answered my second post. I'm really curious if it's primarily physical or primarily psychological that men prefer tight vaginas. Furthermore, what qualifies as an off-the-scale, send-you-into-overdrive vagina? And no, I don't mean the mere fact you get to poke it in makes it off-the-scale. I'm talking about sensations. More bumpy? More plump? More wet? More hot? What sensations do you get from a tight woman you don't from someone big and loose?

What physical sensations do you get from a tight one you simply can't get (or suboptimally) from a looser one?

My experience with a tight vagina is: PAIN. My wife is tight and when she is tight she is in pain, it's been that way for 32 years.

I can last a hell of a lot longer in a loose vagina than I can in a tight one so it would be more fun for me and hopefully for the woman.

Licking a woman is a delight, smooth soft lips, sweet secretions and depths to explore. Her reactions to different sucking and licking motions provide constant stimulation for me, I experience a sense of comfort/relaxation while performing oral sex on my wife. And watching and feeling her bodies reactions to my ministrations is super sexy and her orgasms are very intense with a lot of body "language".

An off the scale, sending me into overdrive vagina would be a vagina that wants me and that would accommodate the whole of my penis in the first couple of strokes, requiring a looseness or a slightly snug fit if that makes sense and very wet. Smooth is what I would like to experience.

Her love and wanton desire for me and my love and lust for her would be a perfect combination.

 

[Valkyriessong]

If loose women allow men to last longer and tightness causes pain and/or premature ejaculation why do so many guys prefer tight women?

Wouldn't the fact you can last longer in a looser woman actually be a factor in her favor?

 

[B_spiker067]

If loose women allow men to last longer and tightness causes pain and/or premature ejaculation why do so many guys prefer tight women?

Wouldn't the fact you can last longer in a looser woman actually be a factor in her favor?

What you are looking for is a cock that is not too big and not too small but just right.

You are looking for your GoldiCock.

 

[Valkyriessong]

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[B_spiker067]

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Well if you aren't in the largest vagina category you are probably likely to find your GoldiCock.:smile:

I've looked at a few videos on yuvutu.com.

I figured amateurs would be even less self selecting than college guys or sex survey victims. And I still can't get a better impression of what is average (not enough cock shots).

The only survey that makes any sense in the end is the Italian Army (3000 volunteers) from which it is gathered that:

"A 7-inch erect penis would place you in the 99th percentile, according to the Italian study."

The point being there are plenty of sized guys out there for you. Don't you think?

I'm beginning to think that ALL large cocked guys are porn professionals since there seems to be so many.:biggrin1:

 

[Love-it]

If loose women allow men to last longer and tightness causes pain and/or premature ejaculation why do so many guys prefer tight women?

Wouldn't the fact you can last longer in a looser woman actually be a factor in her favor?

I can't answer why most men want a tight vagina but I can hazard a few guesses:
1. It pumps up their ego
2. They have a small penis
3. They're worried that they have a small penis, if it's tight they're BIG!
4. They enjoy hurting women
5. They can fantasize that they are deflowering a virgin
6. They enjoy a sore penis
7. They've wore out the ol' bugger and need more stimulation
8. They're fantasizing that they are fucking her in the ass
9. There are a few men that are so big they have never experienced a loose vagina so they don't know the difference
10. They want to spend as little time as possible interacting with a woman

Lasting longer in a looser woman may benefit her needs, if you are considerate and can accommodate her needs and you enjoy sex why not go for the gold. I would love to experience a woman enjoying multiple orgasms, I would need a lot more control than I have now. Too many years sleeping next to a sexy woman I love, without intercourse will do that to a man.

OK, here is the reason that I know the difference between loose and tight: my wife's vagina is still so tight I can barely get half way in and I get pretty sore after a bit of thrusting; she has recently learned how to take me in her ass, after dilating and relaxing we can get past the initial tightness to where she can comfortably take my full length/girth, I can stay deep in her loose rectum or thrust vigorously for as long as 40 minutes. We have nver been able to go over a minute during vaginal sex because she experiences so much pain, if it seems like I might get a chance to cum in her vagina I have to be really quick. So I have 32 years of training to cum as quickly as possible and some years we would only try intercourse maybe once or twice a year and I think there was at least one year that we didn't try intercourse at all. I would get my hopes up around my birthday, our anniversary, vacation and Christmas but it didn't happen.

So, I want to experience a relaxed, wet, warm, smooth and loose vagina, that is my preference. As a side when my wife blows me she uses a loose grip, slow strokes, soft sucking and licking and, for lack of a better word, a "loose" mouth. Soft and sexy.