You kidding right?,I hope this piece of shit meets a very violent death.I'd be happy to be a part of it.I also hope the fuckers who are helping to hide him,rot in jail forever.
Doesn't the execution of Law Enforcement Officers merit a mention?
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You kidding right?,I hope this piece of shit meets a very violent death.I'd be happy to be a part of it.I also hope the fuckers who are helping to hide him,rot in jail forever.
He was shot to death today,he had one of the cops' guns on him.good deal.Several people are being taken into custody.A happy ending to a sad event.
i realize that on a social order level, this asshole taking out 4 people who are supposed to be keeping us safe is something people like to apply selective preference as to the value of their lives.
but in the big picture sense, one person killing 4 others is no better or worse a crime just because of who the victims were or what they did for a living. a life is a life and to weight them is unfair.
soldiers are dying every day and the only coverage they get is a scroll of their names at the end of a couple of news broadcasts. and alot of ABC affiliates refused to air the nightline show that ran them all.
it's like when tv news spends weeks covering the murder of a hot white female correspondent, but won't cover the story of an inner city african american mother who lost 3 of her kids to gang violence. it's natalie halloway syndrome.
but in the big picture sense, one person killing 4 others is no better or worse a crime just because of who the victims were or what they did for a living. a life is a life and to weight them is unfair.
soldiers are dying every day and the only coverage they get is a scroll of their names at the end of a couple of news broadcasts. and alot of ABC affiliates refused to air the nightline show that ran them all.
it's like when tv news spends weeks covering the murder of a hot white female correspondent, but won't cover the story of an inner city african american mother who lost 3 of her kids to gang violence. it's natalie halloway syndrome.
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No, I'm not. I knew he wouldn't be taken alive.
A friend of mine, Anthony Costello, someone I knew since he was 4 or 5, was murdered by a cop. He was unarmed and surrounded by police and they shot him. He had no history of violence and the cops even knew him as this is a small town. One of the cop's girlfriends called my friend's wife before he was shot and she told my friend's wife that, "he was going down tonight."
As usual, all the cops backed-up the murderer's (a cop with a history of domestic violence) story, the one private citizen who witnessed the shooting was intimidated into saying she didn't see anything when she had earlier claimed she did, and the murderer was exonerated. He's walking free today and my friend is in a grave.
I don't excuse the murder of four people. I think it's horrible and I'm glad they found the guy. I am not happy they killed him. I hope the shooting is found to be legitimate though it wouldn't surprise me if it's found legitimate no matter what happened.
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There may have been more to this than we will ever know.
There are Many Many corrupt cops.
The fact that they shot him to death shows that they were out for revenge.
So basically they bucked the justice system they vowed to protect.
There are very few police officers that I have respect for. Some are just doing a job because they feel it's in their heart to protect.
And then there's the other that do the job because they want to be un-touchable.
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OK Every cop is corrupt and a killer.I just hope you won't call for their help at 3am when someone is breaking into your parents' house.On top of being a hypocrite,you might be gunned down by them.
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An insane person was allowed to walk the streets and commit crimes repeatedly until it culminated in him murdering four police officers and then got killed himself as a result of his actions.
There is nothing happy about this story, including the insane person's death.
Imagine if this criminally insane man had been treated effectively for his insanity. At worst, he'd still be in an asylum being taken care of, and there's a good chance he'd have ended up leading a productive life.
Instead, four cops are dead and so is he.
Nothing happy about this story at all.
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Works for a lot more people than one would think. Practically everyone in my family and definitely where I grew up (30 min. from the nearest sheriff), as most have never called the police for help. The only time I picked up the phone to call the police was to turn in a few pistols.
While I agree that law enforcement shouldn't be afforded some kind of military status, it's not true that they don't have a special legal status. Police officers are given the right to use lethal force in situations that others are not, to carry guns in situations that others are not, to search people and property in situations that are others are not, and so on.
Obviously, if a cop murders someone, he/she should be prosecuted the same as anyone else. In that sense, they should be treated the same. But when acting as a law enforcement officer, they do have certain privileges that enable them to do their jobs.
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Bollocks! The one story that happens that I don't post because I don't want to hear shit from HazelGod about how he has a newspaper. You post. :irked:
My reaction upon hearing this story two days ago was actually shock. Apparently I am not as desensitized to random violence as I had thought.
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I love you Guy-Jin but I disagree.
Given his violent criminal history I don't think he could have been rehabilitated. Gov. Huckabee was wrong to give him clemency.
As for his mental illness, sorry no way in hell is that an excuse. I don't feel bad at all that he is dead. He was a bad seed. I feel bad for the family and friends of the dead cops. Not that crazy animal.
Given his violent criminal history I don't think he could have been rehabilitated. Gov. Huckabee was wrong to give him clemency.
As for his mental illness, sorry no way in hell is that an excuse. I don't feel bad at all that he is dead. He was a bad seed.
I feel bad for the family and friends of the dead cops. Not that crazy animal.Although Mr. Ed and I disagree on this subject I can understand where he's coming from.
Mr. Ed grew up in a town were you called police to protect you and they did.
Not so in my my neighborhood!
I grew up in a place where cops stopped you for driving while black
took your drugs and robbed you for your money and you still might be arrested and beaten down.
I personally know many of these same cops who committed these crimes on people I grew up with.
It's hard to imagine that those who are supposed to uphold the justice system and
protect you will also wantonly murder and rape if they have half a mind to.
One of the cops whom I used to shoot pool with every night after work went on to be
a member of the "gang unit" here in Roxbury subsequently while on a call he picked up a 14 yr. old and raped her repeatedly.
He came into the after hours club and told us about it {in the company of myself and other officers}
and he laughed at us because most of us were horrified.
He was turned in by the girls family and found there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute.
He continues to brag about to this day.
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Mr. Ed grew up in a town were you called police to protect you and they did.
Not so in my my neighborhood!
I grew up in a place where cops stopped you for driving while black
took your drugs and robbed you for your money and you still might be arrested and beaten down.
I personally know many of these same cops who committed these crimes on people I grew up with.
It's hard to imagine that those who are supposed to uphold the justice system and
protect you will also wantonly murder and rape if they have half a mind to.
One of the cops whom I used to shoot pool with every night after work went on to be
a member of the "gang unit" here in Roxbury subsequently while on a call he picked up a 14 yr. old and raped her repeatedly.
He came into the after hours club and told us about it {in the company of myself and other officers}
and he laughed at us because most of us were horrified.
He was turned in by the girls family and found there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute.
He continues to brag about to this day.
C.B.:saevil:
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The law does to a certain extent put the word (on oath) of a police officer above that of a general member of the public. That is not to say one way or the other that police officers are less likely to perjure themselves than you or I.
The death of any person in violent circumstances dimishes us all, but some states do put a higher penalty on the attacker of an officer: but in the UK judges often get confused. A police officer not in uniform or on duty has no crown warrant other than his obligations as a member of the public, therefore if he is attacked not because he is an officer than surely his status is equal to hours. I don't know about the US but police officers who have committed major crimes are treated more leniently. Why? An English county constabulary was recently prepared to reinstate several officers who while off duty had attacked and disfigured an innocent man although they were found guilty and given prison sentences (which they didn't serve by the way) and only yesterday a police officer who brutally stabbed his wife dozens of times and then went back and stabbed her dead body a further 30 times will be released from prison after serving 4 years of an 8 years sentence.
All human life is sacred. Blair, following in Thatchers footsteps, politiciszed the British police. Here police were until recently well respected for being mosyly impartial. They have turned a blind eye to thieving politicians and been rewarded by having their mouths stuffed with gold. Is the British bobby going to become like some corrupt banana republic para-military cop?
It is very sad about the Washington state officers, but in a nation that in many ways approves of violence it makes it all the worse that public servants should be targeted in this vicious way.
The death of any person in violent circumstances dimishes us all, but some states do put a higher penalty on the attacker of an officer: but in the UK judges often get confused. A police officer not in uniform or on duty has no crown warrant other than his obligations as a member of the public, therefore if he is attacked not because he is an officer than surely his status is equal to hours. I don't know about the US but police officers who have committed major crimes are treated more leniently. Why? An English county constabulary was recently prepared to reinstate several officers who while off duty had attacked and disfigured an innocent man although they were found guilty and given prison sentences (which they didn't serve by the way) and only yesterday a police officer who brutally stabbed his wife dozens of times and then went back and stabbed her dead body a further 30 times will be released from prison after serving 4 years of an 8 years sentence.
All human life is sacred. Blair, following in Thatchers footsteps, politiciszed the British police. Here police were until recently well respected for being mosyly impartial. They have turned a blind eye to thieving politicians and been rewarded by having their mouths stuffed with gold. Is the British bobby going to become like some corrupt banana republic para-military cop?
It is very sad about the Washington state officers, but in a nation that in many ways approves of violence it makes it all the worse that public servants should be targeted in this vicious way.
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I think it is sad that any human being is targeted this way
not just the police because of their position.
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His family and friends who helped to hide him instead of turning him in to get help and to stay alive have his blood on their hands. It could have ended differently for him. It was fortunate that no one else lost their life.
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Well, I completely agree with that.
As for his mental illness, sorry no way in hell is that an excuse. I don't feel bad at all that he is dead. He was a bad seed.
Maybe I wasn't clear. I didn't say there was an excuse for his behavior. I said he shouldn't have been allowed to walk the streets because he was criminally insane.
I also said that I think he's a victim as well--he had a mental disorder, it was evident, but the system failed to keep him under control or treat him correctly. With that you may disagree. But I do not think simply locking up people who were unfortunately born with mental disorders is the proper way to treat them. Call me naive if you must.
Agreed. And those people should be brought to justice. In fact, had they turned him in publicly instead of hiding him, there's a chance he'd still be alive as well, so they truly did nobody a service by hiding him. That said, I still think it's the system that failed here more than anything else. We simply do not have a system to adequately handle these types of people in place.
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Amen. Times have changed. A good portion of these state militias are pissed off not only at government, but local control as well.
Not all police are bad. My point was that there's a large quantity that are, and think they are super cops.
This story was just one of many freak incidents that I think you'll see more and more of.
The main issue is why wasn't he taken into custody and prosecuted like every other criminal.
"But He'll get out of prison again" - well...until society changes their view of how to handle these things, welcome to the large group of people that the Justice system fails to serve.
I'm glad he's dead - one less fucknut running around.
But still... It sounds like they were taking the law into their own hands - and debunking the process that they are "Working to preserve".
Ed... I won't call for their help at 3am. I'll take care of my own business.
Count yourself lucky that you feel safe and secure that the police will be there for you.
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Ed... I won't call for their help at 3am. I'll take care of my own business.
Count yourself lucky that you feel safe and secure that the police will be there for you.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about myself at 3am.I'll call the police and tell them to take their time ,shut the siren off so they don't wake the neighbors and to bring a body bag. When seconds count,the cops are only minutes away.
I was talking about the people who talk shit about the police but would cower under their bed if someone broke in, and then bitch about the cops being late.
Count yourself lucky that you feel safe and secure that the police will be there for you.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about myself at 3am.I'll call the police and tell them to take their time ,shut the siren off so they don't wake the neighbors and to bring a body bag. When seconds count,the cops are only minutes away.
I was talking about the people who talk shit about the police but would cower under their bed if someone broke in, and then bitch about the cops being late.
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