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Literally every interaction he had with James Charles (Not saying James is anything special, hate him to the core due to his scandals, also James was doing the most in those videos) they claim that it was for shits and giggles but you can clearly see that he was grossed out by him.

then there was the scandal they both had with their gay childhood friend where they kicked him out for being gay. that was their last scandal before they went dark. Look it up on YouTube, there’s loads of videos about it.
Their friend, Ryan? He wasn’t gay. The whole situation was because apparently he was talking to a fan on Snapchat, replied with a heart emoji and the twins flipped out. Plus, there’s this whole situation where Ryan was talking to a girl that Grayson allegedly liked. But that wasn’t even the case. He was just venting to her. Like he even gave his side of the story. Like there was no issues with them having a “gay friend“. Unless Ryan has recently come out or some thing he was straight.

As for the James Charles situation. I believe it was more he was meant to look uncomfortable. I think it was supposed to be the whole him being the “hot straight guy” that is listed over by a “feminine gay” one and them showing that a feminine gay guy & a masculine straight guy can be friends. At least they were trying to show diversity or something like that. Who knows. But I never sensed any kind of pure discomfort. More like comedic annoyance.
 

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Their friend, Ryan? He wasn’t gay. The whole situation was because apparently he was talking to a fan on Snapchat, replied with a heart emoji and the twins flipped out. Plus, there’s this whole situation where Ryan was talking to a girl that Grayson allegedly liked. But that wasn’t even the case. He was just venting to her. Like he even gave his side of the story. Like there was no issues with them having a “gay friend“. Unless Ryan has recently come out or some thing he was straight.

As for the James Charles situation. I believe it was more he was meant to look uncomfortable. I think it was supposed to be the whole him being the “hot straight guy” that is listed over by a “feminine gay” one and them showing that a feminine gay guy & a masculine straight guy can be friends. At least they were trying to show diversity or something like that. Who knows. But I never sensed any kind of pure discomfort. More like comedic annoyance.
I remember when the whole Ryan debacle happened; my first thought when I saw the video was that the twins are unhinged and narcissistic for how they treated him.
And seeing Ryan's 2 response videos at that time, really confirmed what I'd already thought about the twins.
 
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Literally every interaction he had with James Charles (Not saying James is anything special, hate him to the core due to his scandals, also James was doing the most in those videos) they claim that it was for shits and giggles but you can clearly see that he was grossed out by him.

then there was the scandal they both had with their gay childhood friend where they kicked him out for being gay. that was their last scandal before they went dark. Look it up on YouTube, there’s loads of videos about it.
Well to be fair James Charles looks gross, so anyone would be repulsed by him, and that was before I found out about his scandals.
 

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I remember when the whole Ryan debacle happened; my first thought when I saw the video was that the twins are unhinged and narcissistic for how they treated him.
And seeing Ryan's 2 response videos at that time, really confirmed what I'd already thought about the twins.
Regardless of the twins' behavior, I still think they are both sexy.
A part of me just believes they fell down that rabbit hole of going from actual decent people, making entertaining content to becoming materialistic and caring about views, and it just was ridiculous. Like I feel something changed them like, maybe their fathers death that did that. Like I don’t know. But I thought that they were pretty cool when they first started their channel up until probably their father’s death.
 

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A part of me just believes they fell down that rabbit hole of going from actual decent people, making entertaining content to becoming materialistic and caring about views, and it just was ridiculous. Like I feel something changed them like, maybe their fathers death that did that. Like I don’t know. But I thought that they were pretty cool when they first started their channel up until probably their father’s death.
I agree.
I think their father's death could have a lot to do with their shift in behavior and mentality.
 
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Well to be fair James Charles looks gross, so anyone would be repulsed by him, and that was before I found out about his scandals.
I personally think James Charles' narcissism is gross.
But his face and body is attractive; I don't mind femboys like James - but if he stepped back from social media & avoided any and all scandals (which we all know will never happen), then I'd respect him again.
 

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I think their father's death could have a lot to do with their shift in behavior and mentality.

I think it's more likely their fame got to their heads than their father passing. I think ppl use the Twin's dad passing too often to excuse their crappy behavior. Plenty of people lose a parent without humiliating and embasssing a longtime friend in a public video proudly claiming that they threw him out. I find it unlikely grief would make you behave like they did in that video, let alone cause you to proudly post it.
 

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I think it's more likely their fame got to their heads than their father passing. I think ppl use the Twin's dad passing too often to excuse their crappy behavior. Plenty of people lose a parent without humiliating and embasssing a longtime friend in a public video proudly claiming that they threw him out. I find it unlikely grief would make you behave like they did in that video, let alone cause you to proudly post it.
That is true.
They were weaponizing their father's death to justify their entitlement & abuse of power.