Donald trump is a closeted self-hating gay man?

[ActionBuddy]

The pivotal point I was making is that...

Hodor.

 

[Drifterwood]

Yes, way more.

Do you base that on his personal abortion history? Or are you saying that gay or bisexual people hate the opposite sex?

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

So you deny the relation of homophobia to latent homosexuality? Are you fucking serious?

The Secret Life of a Gay Nazi

The Pink Swastika

Gay Nazi, Gay Aryan, Gay Supremacist

Homophobe are hidden homosexuals

Homophobic? Maybe you're gay?

Those are all quoting very broken studies (except thoes ones that base themselves on anecdotal evidence) that either depend heavily on psychanalytical theory or ignore the fact that penile plethysmography have never been validated as golden standard diagnosis for sexual orientation. Once you take away the urge to blame LGBT people for their own unfortunes, you will see that there's nothing more in this subject than pseudo-science.
Btw, Scott Lively's The Pink Swastika is pure anti-gay propaganda. Do you know who your quoting? The author is being sued for crimes against humanity for his massive support for a anti-gay genocide law in Uganda. So, are you fucking serious?

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Do you base that on his personal abortion history? Or are you saying that gay or bisexual people hate the opposite sex?

I have no idea of what you are talking about in either of those questions, so I'll just gonna explain what I mean. Trump exposed several times his dismissive attitudes towards women, while Clinton isn't "dismissive" of men in any way.

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

So you deny the relation of homophobia to latent homosexuality? Are you fucking serious?

The Secret Life of a Gay Nazi

The Pink Swastika

Gay Nazi, Gay Aryan, Gay Supremacist

Homophobe are hidden homosexuals

Homophobic? Maybe you're gay?

I actually haven't asked for evidence for the claim that homophobia is connected to "latent homosexuality" in that comment (although it is a bullshit claim as well). I asked for evidence for the claim that "Neo-Nazis are usually closeted homosexuals".

 

[Chrysippus]

Prove it true? It was ALWAYS represented as my personal experience from the closeted gays that I have known... and since I live in the South I have known quite a few over the years... it's pretty simple.
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Personal attacks, rather than logical argument, are your stock in trade:
1.) 'Have you been living under a rock?'
2.) 'your delusions of grandeur'
3.) 'you are as dumb as a box of rocks'
4.) 'I don't even know how you can dress yourself in the morning'
5.) 'You are a clown and a poor one who isn't funny or entertaining'

and with that, wearisome sarcasm:
1.) I'm supposed to commission double blind studies and pay for expensive surveys
2.) Oh right... gay man cannot hate themselves... they have magical fucking immunity from "self hatred"

Argument from personal experience is not logically valid, unless your premise is agreed upon by all, and I don't agree with the absurd assertions made in your opening post.

I've known plenty of gay men, some of whom are closeted--some who grew up in and still live in the South--who do not engage in 'gay self-hatred'--but that doesn't make a difference since it's my own experience.
If you did present, as you say, 'a hypothesis', it isn't one you could validate with evidence, but that doesn't matter to you:
I may as well assert that eating buttered toast will everyone you to heaven.

You're like Trump in that if someone who challenges and disagrees with the stupid things you say, your reply with invective, insult, and sarcasm.

Are you Mercury Girl's conjoined twin?

 

[Drifterwood]

Personal attacks, rather than logical argument, are your stock in trade:
1.) 'Have you been living under a rock?'
2.) 'your delusions of grandeur'
3.) 'you are as dumb as a box of rocks'
4.) 'I don't even know how you can dress yourself in the morning'
5.) 'You are a clown and a poor one who isn't funny or entertaining'

and with that, wearisome sarcasm:
1.) I'm supposed to commission double blind studies and pay for expensive surveys
2.) Oh right... gay man cannot hate themselves... they have magical fucking immunity from "self hatred"

Argument from personal experience is not logically valid, unless your premise is agreed upon by all, and I don't agree with the absurd assertions made in your opening post.

I've known plenty of gay men, some of whom are closeted--some who grew up in and still live in the South--who do not engage in 'gay self-hatred'--but that doesn't make a difference since it's my own experience.
If you did present, as you say, 'a hypothesis', it isn't one you could validate with evidence, but that doesn't matter to you:
I may as well assert that eating buttered toast will everyone you to heaven.

You're like Trump in that if someone who challenges and disagrees with the stupid things you say, your reply with invective, insult, and sarcasm.

Are you Mercury Girl's conjoined twin?

I'm guessing Hillary's opponents know exactly what to expect which is why I guess they are pretty quiet at the moment.

 

[Crimsonlurker]

I'm guessing Hillary's opponents know exactly what to expect which is why I guess they are pretty quiet at the moment.

No, they're quite because of all the juicy news that constantly comes out about trump and his dealings. Taxes, cuba, what he says, his companies, his charities, his past, his present and etc. Theres just too much to defend against. The guy has been very busy bury his own presidential run. So yeah i'm guessing it's less about hillary and more about massive amounts of damage control.

 

[Drifterwood]

No, they're quite because of all the juicy news that constantly comes out about trump and his dealings. Taxes, cuba, what he says, his companies, his charities, his past, his present and etc. Theres just too much to defend against. The guy has been very busy bury his own presidential run. So yeah i'm guessing it's less about hillary and more about massive amounts of damage control.

They're quite?

Trump's tax record versus Clinton's abortion record. Bring it on.

 

[Crimsonlurker]

They're quite?

Trump's tax record versus Clinton's abortion record. Bring it on.

Bring what on? Clinton's abortion record? I have no clue what you're talking about. Keep in mind. You're on notice.

 

[Drifterwood]

Bring what on? Clinton's abortion record? I have no clue what you're talking about. Keep in mind. You're on notice.

On notice? Wtf does that mean?

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

They're quite?

Trump's tax record versus Clinton's abortion record. Bring it on.

Conservatism is such a curious fantasy world that I can't just trust common sense to presume whether there are recently-fabricated rumors that Clinton aborted several times and I haven't heard it yet or if you're talking about her voting record (which is her choise in a democracy, not criminal in any way, so I don't get why would it be compared with Trump's mafia-like behaviour).

 

[Crimsonlurker]

On notice? Wtf does that mean?

On notice means this website records everything you say. And if you say something racist/bigotted, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, elitist or in general fucked up. Not only will i quote you but i'll make sure no one ever forgets you said it. I say that because of your history on here. You'll say something then in the very next post act as if you never said it. Amazingly, on a site that records everything you say. So it was a heads up. Your old tricks no longer work. Get news ones.

 

[Drifterwood]

Conservatism is such a curious fantasy world that I can't just trust common sense to presume whether there are recently-fabricated rumors that Clinton aborted several times and I haven't heard it yet or if you're talking about her voting record (which is her choise in a democracy, not criminal in any way, so I don't get why would it be compared with Trump's mafia-like behaviour).

No, I think the issue is that Bill fucked lots of other women and told them about his wife and now they are allegedly repeating what he said. I guess they are not reporting this in the U.S.

 

[Drifterwood]

On notice means this website records everything you say. And if you say something racist/bigotted, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, elitist or in general fucked up. Not only will i quote you but i'll make sure no one ever forgets you said it. I say that because of your history on here. You'll say something then in the very next post act as if you never said it. Amazingly, on a site that records everything you say. So it was a heads up. Your old tricks no longer work. Get news ones.

Ha ha. Quote away Einstein.

 

[Crimsonlurker]

No, I think the issue is that Bill fucked lots of other women and told them about his wife and now they are allegedly repeating what he said. I guess they are not reporting this in the U.S.

Donald Trump Goes After The Clintons’ Marital History At His Own Peril

“Any number of Republicans have cautioned against Donald Trump taking this low road,” said Brian Fallon, Clinton’s press secretary. “It seems like it is not at all a considered strategy that they are adopting, but rather an impulsive move by Donald Trump that has become their strategy by default… It will backfire on him.”

 

[Crimsonlurker]

Ha ha. Quote away Einstein.

So i take it me remembering you that you can't lie about what you say is the thing that will shut you up? Which is pretty funny since we're talking about donald trump?

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

No, I think the issue is that Bill fucked lots of other women and told them about his wife and now they are allegedly repeating what he said. I guess they are not reporting this in the U.S.

As a brazilian, I'm sympathetic to people who don't know english very well, but this is too much. I have absolutely no idea what your're trying to say and you are not accomplishing anything but distracting this discussion. Ignored.

 

[Drifterwood]

Donald Trump Goes After The Clintons’ Marital History At His Own Peril

“Any number of Republicans have cautioned against Donald Trump taking this low road,” said Brian Fallon, Clinton’s press secretary. “It seems like it is not at all a considered strategy that they are adopting, but rather an impulsive move by Donald Trump that has become their strategy by default… It will backfire on him.”

Oooh. A link. Aren't you a teeny bit interested in whether she may have had abortions and why? You are so interested in Donald's tax history even though it is likely no different to anyone with money in the U.S. Yet you are happy with the Clintons declaring an income over $10 million a year. They feel for you bro.

 

[Drifterwood]

So i take it me remembering you that you can't lie about what you say is the thing that will shut you up? Which is pretty funny since we're talking about donald trump?

You flatter your memory and comprehension skills.