Donald trump leads a new republican presidential nationwide poll

[Drifterwood]

There you go...lying again.

There you go, being an irrelevant dumb ass.

 

[Drifterwood]

Exceptional Americans don't believe in American exceptionalism.

QED.

 

[Crimsonlurker]

There you go, being an irrelevant dumb ass.

And once again, i criticize you and you insult me like a five year old. Prove that it's 50/50 please.

 

[Drifterwood]

And once again, i criticize you and you insult me like a five year old. Prove that it's 50/50 please.

No, Dumb Ass, you started the insults. We can all read in sequence.

In your world the US would have had no right to respond to the attacks on Pearl Harbour.

 

[At.your.cervix]

Americans in general do not have a global view and they believe in the fantasy of "American exceptionalism".

As Industrialsize has just said, the United States is not one cohesive monolithic culture. Even when you say "in general" you can be in somewhat tricky waters. For instance, your statement about "American exceptionalism:" Donald Trump and his slew of supporters eschew the concept, preferring a far more pragmatic isolationist approach towards international relations.

The United States' population is incredibly diverse, and far from homogeneous. It is awash in a wide range of cultures, just as is Canada, but only more so due to its larger population and earlier infusion of immigrants from all over the world. In many ways, I tend to see the United States mirroring Europe with its range of cultural diversity, but instead of the general demarcation lines drawn by national borders, they are drawn via state borders, and even then, there are huge cultural differences within the various regions of most states.

And let's face it, Canada isn't all that different from the US in its citizen's "international focus," apart of the inclusion of attention to what's happening in the US and occasionally Great Britain, at least outside of Quebec. In both countries you have some people who are very aware of how their homeland relates to the rest of the world, and some people who seldom think of what's happening outside of their own province/state. If you've traveled extensively through both countries, as I have, you'd see that both nations are made up of a diverse amalgam of cultures and viewpoints.

 

[Crimsonlurker]

No, Dumb Ass, you started the insults. We can all read in sequence.

And i quote...."There you go...lying again." which is me refering directly back to when you attempted to lie about me specifically and get away with it. Which is now a fact because it also references you attempting to lie about other posters. This time you generally comment about a 50/50 without any real proof. And with your history nine times out of ten thats going to be a lie. Me saying as much isn't an insult, it's the truth once again based on your previous actions. Which boil down to criticism in general.

To which you then insulted me for because you immediately got emotional about it. If you can't control your emotions, maybe you shouldn't be in the politics section?

 

[Drifterwood]

Drivel.

"There you go....lying again"

What the Fuck is that? A real quote?

Quote properly and honestly or fuck off.

 

[ColoradoGuy]

Technically, he was impeached for perjuring himself. He lied during sworn testimony.

Yes, you're correct... he was impeached for perjury.

To be honest, I was bypassing the sordid details because it was 20 years ago and the comparison between "what Bill did" and "what Donald claimed he did" is really quite striking. One was consensual sex between two people, the other concerns predatory behavior by one person against a number of women... does anyone recall Trump bragging to Howard Stern that he would 'regularly' walk around backstage at one of his beauty pageants as "the only male allowed in there" while all the contestants were in various stages of undress and he did so because "he owned it"?

No comparison.

 

[deleted15807]

Paul Ryan jettisons Trump:

Paul Ryan said he won't defend Donald Trump
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He will focus on keeping Congress. Another bombshell in an election filled with bombshells. Inevitable really while Trump gave more red meat to his base last night and he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they would still vote for him it's not enough to win.

 

[Klingsor]

Once again . . . the sinking ship abandoning the rat.

(I know, not original. But I love that line!)

 

[deleted15807]

As Industrialsize has just said, the United States is not one cohesive monolithic culture. Even when you say "in general" you can be in somewhat tricky waters. For instance, your statement about "American exceptionalism:" Donald Trump and his slew of supporters eschew the concept, preferring a far more pragmatic isolationist approach towards international relations.

The United States' population is incredibly diverse, and far from homogeneous. It is awash in a wide range of cultures, just as is Canada, but only more so due to its larger population and earlier infusion of immigrants from all over the world. In many ways, I tend to see the United States mirroring Europe with its range of cultural diversity, but instead of the general demarcation lines drawn by national borders, they are drawn via state borders, and even then, there are huge cultural differences within the various regions of most states.

And let's face it, Canada isn't all that different from the US in its citizen's "international focus," apart of the inclusion of attention to what's happening in the US and occasionally Great Britain, at least outside of Quebec. In both countries you have some people who are very aware of how their homeland relates to the rest of the world, and some people who seldom think of what's happening outside of their own province/state. If you've traveled extensively through both countries, as I have, you'd see that both nations are made up of a diverse amalgam of cultures and viewpoints.

To that end

Which of the 11 American nations do you live in?

North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government.

 

[ColoradoGuy]

To that end

Which of the 11 American nations do you live in?

North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government.

Oh... an oldie but a goodie. I live in The Far West and I would agree that attitudes here are much different than the attitudes I experience when I travel to Deep South, Greater Appalachia or Yankeedom. I have often referred others to this map (it came from the Post or the NYT -- I don't recall which -- but it's the best representation I think we have of 'aligned interest geographies').

 

[b.c.]

No the Gulf states is a term used in the Middle East to describe nations near the Persian Gulf i.e. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc.

If you look three posts above yours, you'll see I'd already figured that out.

 

[TexanStar]

To that end

Which of the 11 American nations do you live in?

North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government.


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Speaking as someone who's lived in 13 states so far, that's a really bad map. It's trying to draw similarties in culture / outlooks based on geography, which overlooks the fact that so much of the US population is clustered in and around metropolitan areas these days.

Locals in rural Texas might share similarties with locals in rural West Virginia, but 88% of Texans are clustered around Metro centers nowadays. Austin has a distinct culture separate from Dallas, for example, with Austin being more similar to cities like Boulder or Minneapolis or Portland. All four of those cities are marked in different colors on the map, even though those cities are more alike to eachother than they are to geographically closer ones in the same states (i.e. Boulder is a little different from Denver, and both are markedly different from Colorado Springs).

 

[b.c.]

Oh... an oldie but a goodie. I live in The Far West and I would agree that attitudes here are much different than the attitudes I experience when I travel to Deep South, Greater Appalachia or Yankeedom. I have often referred others to this map (it came from the Post or the NYT -- I don't recall which -- but it's the best representation I think we have of 'aligned interest geographies').

And I, in the section the author calls New France (New Orleans). We (at least MOST of us) happen to see things QUITE differently from the "Deep South."

 

[TexanStar]

As another example on the voting thing, go here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas,_2012 and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas,_2008

Sort the spreadsheet by total votes cast. Of the top 5 highest population counties, 4 of them voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 both.

Harris County = Houston
Dallas County = Dallas
Tarrant County = Fort Worth
Bexar County = San Antonio
Travis County = Austin

The state as a whole votes Republican, but the big cities vote Democrat. All 5 of those cities are on the list of the top 10 fastest growing cities in the USA. That's GOP's fear here in TX... The population is growing fast here. It's a lot of influx of college educated voters (there's a ton of tech growth here right now), and they vote Democrat, and it's messing with their goal of keeping the state red.

Tarrant County's the only one in that top 5 list that voted Republican, but that's where I live and I'm flaming liberal, so yah... generalizations suck.

 

[deleted15807]

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The state as a whole votes Republican, but the big cities vote Democrat.

I think that's true all over the country.

But the author wasn't confining his definition to voting patterns. 'my observations refer to the dominant culture, not the individual inhabitants, of each region. In every town, city, and state you’ll likely find a full range of political opinions and social preferences.

 

[TexanStar]

I think that's true all over the country.

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But the author wasn't confining his definition to voting patterns. 'my observations refer to the dominant culture, not the individual inhabitants, of each region. In every town, city, and state you’ll likely find a full range of political opinions and social preferences.

heh, you did though

"North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government."

 

[deleted15807]

heh, you did though

"North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government."

Yeah I know I did. You would think the whole country is republican based on the sea of red but you can see the rural vs. urban populated vs. thinly populated areas and how that plays out in political leanings. It wasn't always that way but that's another story.

You may appreciate this

The Republican Party's Fatal Attraction To Rural America

 

[deleted15807]

Count one more minority group out of Trump's reach. So that makes it a total wipeout for any of the minority vote.

Asian-American Voters Are Diverse But Unified Against Donald Trump