Dont write no bad grammar at no LPSG

[amethyst]

I like this thread! Most incorrect grammar drives me nuts, as well. And I am an engineer!

Admittedly, though, I am the queen of split infinitives. However, I did get kudos from Roy'sToy for stating that I was "lying" down, instead of "laying" down.

Amethyst

 

[dolf250]

Originally posted by steve319@May 17 2005, 02:45 AM
I'm sure we'll all find more in days to come.

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I shall endeavor to provide examples of missing and misplaced commas, exclamation points, dashes, semicolons and periods for you to post in this thread over the next few weeks.

I cannot stand when people are too lazy to type a few extra letters. U is not you; and Y is not why no matter what others may tell you. My hatred started when I was young and came across “xmas.” For many years I did not realize that people would write Christmas as xmas because they could not bring themselves to write the name Christ. Stewing over the complete lack of effort put forth on a single word drove me to the edge of insanity (where I am still precariously perched&#33

 

[madame_zora]

Gee Dolf, liberal tendencies and now an interest in grammar? You are going to mar that redneck card if you aren't careful!

 

[Sam1070]

seperate/separate
irregardless/regardless
masterbation/masturbation

 

[Pecker]

Originally posted by madame_zora@May 17 2005, 06:26 AM
Gee Dolf, liberal tendencies and now an interest in grammar? You are going to mar that redneck card if you aren't careful!

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Even we Rednecks come up for air occasionally.

 

[major_7]

I hope y'all aren't going to flog me for saying "y'all"

The Texas side of me will even say y'all'll sometimes as in:

Y'all'll have to come over tonight.

*translates for Yankees and those across the pond*
You all will have to come over tonight.

 

[Pecker]

Originally posted by major_7@May 17 2005, 01:55 PM
I hope y'all aren't going to flog me for saying "y'all"

The Texas side of me will even say y'all'll sometimes as in:

Y'all'll have to come over tonight.

*translates for Yankees and those across the pond*
You all will have to come over tonight.

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major, don't forget:

"Y'all'd better have fun or y'all've been here for the last time," Tom warned.


Another one that makes the hair rise on my neck:

"Harry would of done a better job if somebody would of told him how," said Tom knowingly.

 

[Onslow]

Originally posted by Pecker@May 16 2005, 02:36 PM
Grammar, or to be more specific, bad grammar.

It's earned its own thread.

We've got a large share of English Majors onsite so let's hear it: what gets on your nerves when it comes to improper English usage?

Here's one that gets my goat:

then instead of than: "I'd rather see Episode III at the movies then on DVD."

grrrrrrr! It makes me want to wrap my dick around the chandelier and hang myself.

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Wye yes I seize the porblum nows! It dunn should o red "I'd rather see Episode III at the movies, then on DVD." The comma being the missing ingredient and once added indicating a strong desire to enjoy they film at the Cineplex in Waynesboro before viewing it at home (instead of the other way around).

 

[amethyst]

Originally posted by dolf250+May 17 2005, 12:44 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dolf250 &#064; May 17 2005, 12:44 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-steve319@May 17 2005, 02:45 AM
I&#39;m sure we&#39;ll all find more in days to come.

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I shall endeavor to provide examples of missing and misplaced commas, exclamation points, dashes, semicolons and periods for you to post in this thread over the next few weeks.

I cannot stand when people are too lazy to type a few extra letters. U is not you; and Y is not why no matter what others may tell you. My hatred started when I was young and came across “xmas.” For many years I did not realize that people would write Christmas as xmas because they could not bring themselves to write the name Christ. Stewing over the complete lack of effort put forth on a single word drove me to the edge of insanity (where I am still precariously perched&#33

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[/b][/quote]

Oooh, oooh, that is one of my pet peves too&#33; It is CHRISTmas&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; It is a mass (celebration) for Christ. I don&#39;t care if people who do not believe in Christ just enjoy the secular side of the holiday, but please do not butcher the word&#33;

Amethyst

 

[SpiceboyMJ]

It drives me crazy when people spell &#39;definitely&#39; incorrectly. The &#39;your&#39; and &#39;you&#39;re&#39; thing drives me crazy as well. Oooh...oooh, it also drives me insane when people do not use punctuation or capitalization too.

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by dolf250@May 17 2005, 07:44 AM
My hatred started when I was young and came across “xmas.” For many years I did not realize that people would write Christmas as xmas because they could not bring themselves to write the name Christ.

I have to say something about &#39;Xmas&#39;. The word &#39;Christ&#39; comes from the Greek word &#39;Christos&#39;, which looks like
this in Greek letters. The Greek letter chi (X) has been used as a respectful symbol for &#39;Christ&#39; since the first century A. D. Even the illiterates knew that the symbol X meant &#39;Christ&#39;. In English, the use of X standing for &#39;Christ&#39; in &#39;Christmas&#39; dates back to at least the ninth century A. D. in the form &#39;Xesmæss&#39; for &#39;Cristesmæsse&#39;. Keep in mind that at that time England was thoroughly Christianized: no one would&#39;ve considered using this abbreviated form out of reluctance to write &#39;Christ&#39;. Even today in the churches of many denominations you will see the letters chi - rho (XP) combined as a respectful monogram representing &#39;Christ&#39;. However it may be used today by some, &#39;Xmas&#39; was not in origin disrespectful.

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Addition of unwarranted apostrophes is as irritating to me as leaving out necessary ones. Today I saw a sign that read, "No pet&#39;s allowed".

Use of the nominative pronoun "I" as the object of prepostion or as a direct object bugs me.
"Here&#39;s a picture of Michael and I."
"What about Lovie and I?"
"Hungry eyes ... I feel the heat between you and I."
"He followed Rachel and I out of the room."
(These were all examples from television shows, a movie, and a song.)
What&#39;s so difficult about using "me" where it&#39;s proper? Peter Criss certainly had no difficulty using "me" incorrectly in the song Beth: "Me and the boys are playing..."

More irritants later.

 

[SpeedoGuy]

Affect/effect errors always bug me. Their/they&#39;re do too.

SG

 

[Pecker]

You&#39;ll hear this one on police broadcasts:

"Myself and Unit (insert number) will respond."

uke:

 

[Pecker]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@May 17 2005, 04:54 PM
Addition of unwarranted apostrophes is as irritating to me as leaving out necessary ones. Today I saw a sign that read, "No pet&#39;s allowed".

Use of the nominative pronoun "I" as the object of prepostion or as a direct object bugs me.
"Here&#39;s a picture of Michael and I."
"What about Lovie and I?"
"Hungry eyes ... I feel the heat between you and I."
"He followed Rachel and I out of the room."
(These were all examples from television shows, a movie, and a song.)
What&#39;s so difficult about using "me" where it&#39;s proper? Peter Criss certainly had no difficulty using "me" incorrectly in the song Beth: "Me and the boys are playing..."

More irritants later.

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Paul Simon: "Me and Julio down by the schoolyard..."

 

[taven]

Let me weigh in with my pet peeves. As a long time English teacher, soon to be retired (damn it) one of my biggest irritations is spelling. (Please note: I&#39;m by ability the worst speller around and am attached to a dictionary with a silver umbilical as a result.) Other grammatical problems irritate me also. The funny thing is that I was not an English major as an undergraduate and became the defacto English specialist since no one else in my school would do the job. I majored in foreign languages, but since I took so many literature classes for my own interest, I became the "English Terminator" for over 40 years. I&#39;m more than aware of my shortcomings as an English specialist, but I&#39;ve worked at it assiduously for my entire career. I won&#39;t miss grading essays, but I dread giving up my kids. I&#39;ve had hundreds of kids without having to pay for their braces or college.

 

[jonb]

One could argue that y&#39;all is a second-person collective. Collective pronouns or verb inflections are a marker of many languages.

But then again, I&#39;ve also heard y&#39;all used as a singular.

 

[steve319]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@May 17 2005, 01:07 AM
Incidentally, let us not forget that the subjunctive takes another form in certain circumstances: the subjunctive of condition, or, more commonly, the conditional...

My old grammar professor (revered wildwoman that she was&#33 avoided the term "conditional" in spite of it all.

I forget the other big category...formulaic subjunctive, is it? Traditional sayings like "Be that as it may" or religious usages like "Thy will be done" fall into that category, right? Or has it been too many years...

It depends. American usage seems to be to put punctuation inside of the quotation marks regardless of what the quotations marks are used for. British usage is a bit different.

Yeah, but didn&#39;t conforming to APA form almost hammer that one right out of you?

I&#39;ve noticed your penchant for the British spellings, too (criticise maybe?). Is that through training or choice? Out of curiosity, do you go with favour and harbour and all those too?

Leapfrogging topics a bit, I have an immense admiration for folks (like you, I&#39;m betting) who have the linguistic flexibility (and brain structures&#33 that allow them to absorb foreign languages so readily. Studying French only seemed to screw with my English spelling.

 

[13788]

hung_big: Quick list of things that drive me crazy:

- Over and/or under capitalization. It&#39;s alright if it is done once or twice, but if it is "Frequently Done Where People capitalize Almost every Word" it gets to be very annoying.

- Colloquial words. This pet peeve of mine varies on the situation. I don&#39;t mind it when I&#39;m chatting with somebody via IM or PM, but I don&#39;t want to read a topic that is meant to be intellectually stimulating and find people who are using very limited vocabulary and phrases that do nothing to prove intelligence.

- Incorrect application of punctuation. As long as it does not stand out boldly, I do not mind it. Something as irritating as improper semi-colon use or overusing commas tends to irritate me.

- Double Negatives. THIS ANNOYS ME HORRIBLY&#33;

I know I make my fair share of mistakes, and I don&#39;t openly criticize most people (I got burned horrible from Jana for doing that ), but it still does tick me off when somebody cannot write coherently. Whether that means they use very little punctuation, over-capitalize or anything else, it just angers me.

People should take the time to learn the linguistics of a language, proper application of said rudiments and RE-READ what they write. I don&#39;t think anybody expects perfection, but some common curtesy in making sure that other people do not struggle to read your post would be apprecaited.

Of course, I can&#39;t say this is directed at anybody in this thread, because you guys know exactly what you are doing.

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Originally posted by Pecker@May 17 2005, 11:09 PM
Paul Simon: "Me and Julio down by the schoolyard..."

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Actually, that one&#39;s in correct in the lyrics. The entire line is, "See you, me and Julio down by the schoolyard." As the direct object of the verb "see", the objective case should be used.