Dr. Phil and his ex-wife Oprah Winfrey

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Heather LouAnna said:
My sister loves Dr Phil. She'd force me top watch him on her fucking Tivo whenever I'd come to vist her condo in San Antonio. Like the stench of curry, simply seeing his face makes my gag reflex spasm and dance like a squirrel that's just been run over.

His advice is general and empty. He speaks but none of it makes sense. It's just meant to give you this overall sense of false security.

I enjoy watching Martha Stewart more than listening to him talk. She makes a mean crabcake too.

She is also a huge bitch, which is something that can be a very endearing quality.:biggrin1:
 

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jeff black said:
Considering "DR. Phil" isn't actually a doctor, I question his ability to properly help those on his stage.

He's a psychologist, man. It was in 1996 when the madcow scare (which I think was just in Europe) was on the loose. Oprah announced something to the effect of "I don't know about you, but I'm not going to eat beef for awhile" on television and the beef companies tried to sue her over it, saying that it was unjust for her to announce something so uneducated when she is such an influential figure.

Dr Phil is the person she consulted on the case.

I don't mean to be all....Texas here, but I think she should have lost the madcow case. :rolleyes: Attention had already been brought to the fact that the slaughter houses were terribly unstable and unorganized, enough for the pieces of processed diseased cattle to be in the feed of the healthy ones. Oprah had a right to express her opinion on the case, sure, but she is a very influential figure and shouldn't lead people astray from the facts.............which she does every show.

blah blah I'm just ranting now..
 

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jeff black said:
She is also a huge bitch, which is something that can be a very endearing quality.:biggrin1:
*shrug* Have you ever watched Martha's show? It's actually kinda....I derno....pleasantly eerie. I once watched an episode where she spent about fifteen minutes showing how to make magazine holders. She sanded and washed them, sanded and washed them, stained them over and over...........She's terribly anal and cheery....a fucking Stepford wife.
 

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Having had some friends who were personally helped by Oprah, I really can't fault her willingness to help people. I think people follow her too blindly, regardless of whether what she says has merit or not. I just worry about blindly following an icon. As far as Dr. Phil, his ilk have been around since Freud----pop psychology has always been a factor in culture since it became a media topic. Howevr, I WOULD enjy seeing Dr. Phil and Tom Cruise beat the shit out of each other.....:biggrin1:
 

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Like many on the board, I'm not the fan club of Oprah and Dr. Phil.

The problem is not with their intentions but with their cult fandom. They speak authoritatively on topics on which they are not experts or are ill-credentialed. Many of their conversations on receive superficial treatment with very little opportunity to encourage the public to examine issues in greater detail. Also, I find Oprah's emotive style tiring and Dr. Phil's upbraiding babble grating over time.

We do have to keep in mind, however, that the original value of Oprah and Dr. Phil 20 years ago was their ability to address social ills in a public forum. The problem is that once they took the lid of the taboo of discussing family-ills, they didn't know how to control the effusion of pop-psychology.
 

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Oprah can be a very nasty, bitter person. Plus, have you noticed how women "follow" her like zombies?? And those Favorite Things shows, where all of the women stand around for the entire hour SCREAMING and FAINTING. Ridiculous! :mad:

I like Dr. Phil, and I think he's right most of the time. I no longer have cable, so I don't see much if his show anymore. Still, as far as actually helping people, I think he is good at what he does.