drew's at it again...

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by surferboy, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. surferboy

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    if you guys remember like, a few months ago, i had told you about my co-worker, drew and how he says he's a christian, and how he refused to serve the two trannies and the gay dude because they were who they were. yah well...he's at it again, only this time it's slightly different...


    so, i get to work on wednesday at 6, which is normal since it's truck day. so, i went into the office, and there were thompson, rodas, and han (all three managers) drew, and morine. so, the subject of another store manager came up, mr. o'dell, who happens to be gay, but the subject changed really fast. about 10 minutes later, the subject of store transfers came up, because han said he can't stand our store manager.

    so, he tells drew that he would like to see him in pharmacy at mr. o'dell's store. drew immediately snaps, "the same o'dell we were just talkin about?" to which han replies "yes." again, drew snaps, "oh, i can't work for him then!" now, i immediately knew exactly what he meant. but mr. han didn't, and was all "why not?" drew, in the most serious yet dispised tone says "because he's gay. i cannot, and utterly refuse to work for someone that is homosexual!"

    mr. han was speechless. he was all "drew, don't ever say that" and drew was like "well, it's the truth. i won't work for anyone that is homosexual. i refuse." mr. han was all "well, if you say it, then i have to write you up and you can be fired for discrimination." then drew was all "well, you remember phillip, right? i couldn't stand working with him because he's gay"

    god fuckin dammit han! why they FUCK did you not say anything?! han said it himself! he could get written up and fired for discriminating like that! and everyone in the store knows i'm openly bisexual! so then rodas had to talk to han in private, and we were all dispersed.

    like, 10-15 minutes later, drew came up to me all "oh, i didn't offend you, did i? because yer the exception to my rule. i befriended you before i knew you were bisexual. and you don't seem it anyways. usually i pick up on it in people, but you seem straight"

    i've never wanted to fuckin hit someone as hrd as i fuckin wanted to fuckin hit anyone so hard in my life. i said "no" and walked away. he knows how i feel about his bigotry because i approached him on with the last incident. when i get back from my vaycay, i'm gonna talk to mr. levy (the store manager) because this is fuckin absurd. there were 3 fuckin managers in there, and even han (who's the second in the chain of command) was all "drew, you could be fired" etc etc.

    should i even go to the store manager at this point? last time drew's bigotry shined through and i went to mr. levy, nothing was done. not even a fuckin write up! or should i try taking this above mr. levy?
     
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    oh! and i forgot to add what happened the last time i went to levy! he was all "well, it's his religious beliefs, i can't write him up" and i was all "how is something like religion, which someone chooses, held more sacred than who someone is!" i got "no, it's his religious beliefs"
     
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    I think your best bet would be, to tell them you don't want to work under those conditions,have them write him up, and go to the local Comission on Discrimination and file a complaint. Take statements from co-workers if possible or tape him yourself. You need to be able to prove the allegations
    for "MCAD" or "The Human rights Campaign" to make a claim stick. If your bosses aren't doing it perhaps going over their head is an option. But beware you could easily be fired from your job,because people don't look favorably on others who "tell" on them. I would file on the bosses who refused to write him up also,it's part of their job to make sure things aren't racist, sexist, or uncomfortable for you,don't forget!
    I wish you the best in this huge undertaking,good luck S.B.
    cigarbabe:saevilw:
     
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    Pick your battles. This is between your employer and the bigot. He just screwed himself more than he knows. Let it go at that. Don't bring it up, do your work, and you'll be the bigger man (as if you weren't already :biggrin1:).

    Employers don't like employees that create hassles for them. He punished himself, even if he doesn't know it. It will be remembered.
     
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    Jason's point is valid,as I said, they may fire you for "creating a situation" when you are only trying to do whats right.
    C.B.:saevilw:
     
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    It's Florida. He's got no right to be protected from discrimination because of his sexual orientation. Sad but true. He may have protection at the county level, but don't expect anything.

     
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    Surferboy, your store manager is an idiot. I like Cigarbabes advice! The manager is as wrong as your co-worker because he didn't do anything the first time this issue was bought to his attention months ago

    I would also try to catch this idiot on tape. Send a letter to Human Resources in the corporate office, cc: the letter to the district supervisor, and your manager but wait 3 days to do it. You want to make sure corporate gets their letter first.

    That homophobic bigot needs to be fired; and should have been terminated after the incident you told us about months ago.

    On a nicer note how is college going this semester? :smile:
     
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    well, i have until next saturday to figure out what to do. i'm on my vaycay right now, back home on o'ahu! hellz yah, muthfucka! haha

    anyways...if i were to get fired though, wouldn't i be able to collect unemployment? and wouldn't i totally have a case against the allegedly most gay friendly company? i have a friend (i met him through work, he's a customer of mine) that used to be the assistant DA of florida, and he said that any legal problems i find myself in, i got him free of charge because of all the help i've given him,
     
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    Call him and ask his advice! His will no doubt be more accurate than anything you hear here.

     
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    well, i do have 4 witnesses to the recent event; 3 managers and 1 co-worker.

    as for college...yah well...financial aid fucked up sistah. they told me 2 days before money was due that they fucked up, but if i paid for it, they'd have reimbursed me within 2 weeks. but there was no fuckin way i could have raised 1100 dollars within 2 days
     
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    hey sistah, it's too late in florida right now haha
     
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    The state of Florida has no legal protections for GLBT people but Broward county does. If you were employed in Broward at the time, then their anti-discrimination laws apply to you. You do, however, have to show loss for the discrimination you've suffered. In some way, some how, you have to have lost a position, potential income, or somehow have been treated unfairly by your employer exclusively because of your GLBT status. From what your story is, it doesn't sound like that happened. You were offended, but not discriminated against to the degree that you suffered loss.

    That's how anti-discrimination laws work. Now I'm not a Florida lawyer so you might want to ask your friend about it but, speaking from experience, I'd save that get-out-of-jail free card for when you REALLY need it. When you find some cop has beaten the shit out of you for catching you with another guy or you find yourself in jail for some stupid charge, THEN call your friend. Not now.

    Contact the GLBT support community in Broward. They will have lawyers who donate time to GLBT people, who can assess your situation and determine if you have a case. Right now I don't think you have one based only upon what you have said here but I could be wrong.

     
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    Of course it would be an older guy since young guys your age aren't attracted to you :biggrin1:.
     
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    Time to find the gay guy in the financial aid department and..... have a private meeting with him.

     
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    that's fuckin wrong that i have to have suffered monetarily for the laws to kick in! what ever happened to an equal opportunity employer? doesn't sound very equal if they let bigots spread their trash to the people who work with them. i feel uncomfortable. work shouldn't feel uncomfortable.
     
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    I would absolutely take Jason's advice. First because he has knowledge of the laws in your state{Florida}.
    2. He is absolutely right about having to show damages,suffering loss,etc.
    My ex husband is a lawyer who also practices in Florida,and, as stated by Jason, there isn't any protection for you outside of Broward county,sorry!
    3. If you were fired,they would claim you were harrassing folks,or a terrible worker, or any excuse will do. I don't think you would have the grounds to claim you were fired because of your sexuality,which would be what you'd have to prove to recieve any kind of funds.
    Of course I'm getting ahead of myself and the story,but this could very easily happen in this kind of gay vs, straight scenario.
    Take Jasons advice and talk to the gay manager and see what he thinks,and be careful!
    hugs
    C.B.:saevilw:
     
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    If you can't connect with someone in Florida to help you legally,then send me a pm,and I will have my ex, run some stuff down for you.
    Best Wishes,
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    cigarbabe, there is no gay manager. did i say there was? cause if i did, that's my bad
     
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    once you run it up the flag pole, someone is going to get worked up over this. in the agency i work for, this would not be tolerated. different for me i guess, since i am in a position of authority, but i drug a guy into the office kitchen once and had a talk with him for excessive use of the word "fag". it stopped on the spot.

    companies do not want to get a reputation for being homophobic these days. this aint 1955 anymore. ask cracker barrel. we were all over their asses 10 years ago for firing a manager because she was a lesbian.

    the "exception to the rule" thing is horseshit.

    write a letter to the personnel manager of the company, and i bet they smack him down hard.
     
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    In a legal sense, is this sexual harrassment that surferboy is experiencing?
     
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