drugs and sex drive

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I'm going to preface my remarks by saying that I do not advocate mixing sex and drugs, also that I see Meth as a scourge on society at large and the gay community in particular.

That having been said, I have sex with many many tweakers in the last 18 months. Their threasholds of pain endurance and stamina make them insanely talented bottoms. They seem to be without limit, and have been outspoken in my unapologetic "harvesting" of the crop here in SoFla. They do things most humans simply don't do any more.

Anyone who is not HIV+ and who takes Tina as a sex aid will wind up seroconverting. That's essentially a guarantee. Common sense and inhibitions become unimportant to those doing Meth. I am HIV+ and only have sex with poz guys (it's called serosorting), so that's a non-issue for me.

Meth mouth is very real. There have been a few guys I didn't even let in because of the state of their teeth and gums. It's sickening to see.

I have seen beautiful, sensitive men become slaves to Meth. It is very addicting. One of my favorite fuckbuds from last summer was arrested last August. He takes a manditory weekly drug-test. If he fails it, he goes back to prison. He's not even allowed to drink, and he's not allowed to leave the county. This status will remain in place for three years.

I've met quite a few guys who claim that their use is recreational, or that they handle everything "intelligently". But I see them online almost every night cruising for cock.

I've met recovering addicts who simply can no longer have sex. Another of my faves last year cleaned up around Christmas and disappeared. When he resurfaced in May, he looked terrible and had lost all the charisma of the guy I'd met. We hooked up anyway, but he went from one of the best lays I've ever had to one of the worst. It was like his dick wouldn't respond to anything but him furiously jerking himself. The entire encounter lasted about 20 minutes, where last summer we'd have fucked for hours. When it was over, he apologized, saying that he'd hoped that the great sex we'd had last Summer would come back with me. But he was simply incapable of "normal" sexual response to arousal.

Tweakers who smoke/snort/slam frequently assume the lifestyle of an addict, and are not above lying or stealing to cover their indulgences.

Oh, and if you plan on using your dick instead of just your ass, be advised that Tina + Viagra + Poppers = Cardiac Arrest. Don't do it, period.

This is probably the least judgemental site giving info about Meth, with most of it about sex. Check it out. They speak the truth.
 

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As a side note, I'm furious with the users and makers of meth. They've made a completely legal and useful drug of pseudephedrine a pain in the ass to buy for those who suffer chronic sinus issues. Sure, there is an alternative medication, now, but it does not nearly work as well.
 

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Factual, and beautifully written, bbucko. Thanks for sparing me from having to "be the heavy" for once!

Thanks.

I walk a very thin line when it comes to Meth, between enjoying the sex with tweakers and not advocating its use. I really try to not be hypocritical about this.

And I am hardly angel material. Anyone who was a teenager in the 70s and who claims never to have done drugs is either a liar or a Mormon. Between the ages of 15 and 23 I did just about everything (short of injecting heroin). This is not a boast, just a statement of fact. I understand the allure of enhancing the sexual experience with drugs, as I did it many times.

There's also something of a myth out there that the drugs of my youth were "cleaner" or "purer" than street drugs today. I don't buy it. The "crystal" I snorted twice is the same "Tina" so fashionable today. And for many years, I counted zombie-like walking-dead victims of drugs as among my once-cherished friends, no longer having any of the spark that made them so fascinating. Perhaps this toll helped me to deal with all those AIDS deaths a few years later.
 

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As a side note, I'm furious with the users and makers of meth. They've made a completely legal and useful drug of pseudephedrine a pain in the ass to buy for those who suffer chronic sinus issues. Sure, there is an alternative medication, now, but it does not nearly work as well.
Both pseudoephedrine and ephedrine were taken off the market in "the war on drugs." Both were safe and effective when used as directed. I have some severe food allergies, and used to be able to buy the ephedrine tablets to keep on hand for emergencies. Now, I have to buy the MUCH more expensive and bulky Epi-Kits, and carry around with me. I would much rather have the tablets than have to use the injectables. Taking an Epi-Kit through airport security is a nightmare, and preparing the injection and injection site is much more difficult than just popping a couple of tablets.

I really try to not be hypocritical about this.

And I am hardly angel material. Anyone who was a teenager in the 70s and who claims never to have done drugs is either a liar or a Mormon. Between the ages of 15 and 23 I did just about everything (short of injecting heroin). This is not a boast, just a statement of fact. I understand the allure of enhancing the sexual experience with drugs, as I did it many times..
Agreed, and I'm no angel either. But the wording of the OP raised some red flags for me, as I'm sure it did for you... otherwise, you probably would not have written that excellent post.
 

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. I am HIV+ and only have sex with poz guys (it's called serosorting), so that's a non-issue for me.
Actually poz/poz guys having sex together is NOT a non-issue....There is a phenomenon called RE-INFECTION......The HIV virus has remarkable properties of being able to mutate.....A poz guy who is doing well with low viral load and high t-cells can be re-infected with a more resitant strain of HIV than they currently have.....As a matter of health, I would advise all poz guys to"Play safely" even if it's with another poz guy.....
 

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Actually poz/poz guys having sex together is NOT a non-issue....There is a phenomenon called RE-INFECTION......The HIV virus has remarkable properties of being able to mutate.....A poz guy who is doing well with low viral load and high t-cells can be re-infected with a more resitant strain of HIV than they currently have.....As a matter of health, I would advise all poz guys to"Play safely" even if it's with another poz guy.....
I wasn't going to post about that before now, but since you mention it...

When "not playing safely" with someone whose immune system is compromised, doesn't that multiply the risks for bacterial and fungal infections?
 

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Ice is a vice.
It ain't that nice.
It turns men into mice.
It's a roll of the dice.
Always think twice
Cuz it comes with a price.
That's my advice.
 

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Actually poz/poz guys having sex together is NOT a non-issue....There is a phenomenon called RE-INFECTION......The HIV virus has remarkable properties of being able to mutate.....A poz guy who is doing well with low viral load and high t-cells can be re-infected with a more resitant strain of HIV than they currently have.....As a matter of health, I would advise all poz guys to"Play safely" even if it's with another poz guy.....

There have been fewer than twenty documented cases of mutation that researchers have concluded are the result of co-mingled viruses, out of the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of cases monitored constantly around the world.

We get our blood work done four times a year. HIV+ patients are the most closely monitored group in medical history. If re-/superinfection were a statistical possibility then I'd worry about it, but it's not.

When "not playing safely" with someone whose immune system is compromised, doesn't that multiply the risks for bacterial and fungal infections?

Fungal infections usually occur in guys with CD4 counts fewer than 200. Antiretroviral therapy has kept mine over 1000 for more than four year. I probably have more T-cells than you do.

Bacterial infections are a very real danger, and I have suffered my fair share. The treatments are odious but effective.

It's worth pointing out that bacterial infections can occur with the same virulence to anyone (poz or not) who engages in unprotected oral sex, giving or receiving, but very very few people I know would even consider sucking on a condom.

Anyway, this thread is about meth. We all agree that Tina's not a good idea. Anyone who'd like to can start (or resurrect) a thread about unprotected sex, including the one I started here.
 

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Anyway, this thread is about meth. We all agree that Tina's not a good idea. Anyone who'd like to can start (or resurrect) a thread about unprotected sex, including the one I started here.
True, sorry for my minor sidetrack. It is worth repeating, though, that meth use does tend to impair inhibition and contribute to more lax attitudes toward condom use and other safer practices.
 

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Very nice response, bbucko.

Let me just add that, working in the job that I do, I think it would become difficult to be attractive or attracted to someone whose teeth are rotting out and have wounds and scabs from the poison leeching out of their system. Considering that the first time you use it you have already altered how your brain works, hence the quick addiction, I find it hard to believe that someone would be willing to take the risk, especially with the education that is out there.

I have had people call and ask if rat poison will really hurt humans if cut into meth. Believe me, there are times when I want to say "no, not at all". Do you really want rat poison in your penis?

However, now I will say, please don't try it. If sex has reached a point where it is so unsatisfying by itself that you need to seek out a drug that can destroy your life, then I have to wonder if there isn't something else going on.
 

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Meth stay away.Do you want open puss sores and age 50 yrs in 10. nooo its not worth any drugs to have a good sex life unless its the viagra type
 

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when I was younger I know that pot always made me hungry and horny, and had a few GF's that were the same way. very often we combined our pot smoking with alcohol, and even took the bong to bed. there were a few times when we were smoking after having sex, that either the moment, my hormones or the quality of the pot made my cock just stand right back up. next to no "down" time:biggrin1:

I also took some "white cross" speed one night. a buddy and I were hitting the town one night, bar hopping and looking for chicks. he ran into somebody and scored about 5 hits of "cross". he took 3 and I took 1, as I never cared much for speed and got off on it real easy, didn't take me much. we picked up some girls, went over to their place, drank beer, smoked pot. I took my lady to her room, and we had sex. she licked me hard again, and got on top. we both came at the same time. so at this point we both had cum twice. we smoked some more pot, split a beer, after 20 minutes, I was ready again. so I got on top, and I'm stroking her every way known to man, after about 5 minutes, she cums again, I slow down, and she was purring like a kitten, I worked her into a frenzy again, and she lets out a little yell and cums again. she came 2 more times and I couldn't blow my wad after 45 minutes of me being on top, ramming my cock into her. I stopped, grabbed a glass of water, and her roommate wants in to join us, because my buddy with the 3 hits of speed, is passed out after having sex once. my gal tells her roommate to go away, that she's not sharing me. 2 weeks later, we met up, no speed, no buddy ,no roommate, we had good sex, but no long drawn out stroking. she was engaged to be married and her fiancee went home every 2 weeks. she told me I wasn't the biggest dick she ever had, although big enough, but I was the best fuck she had ever had.