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As the pandemic hit the world the UK placed orders with several laboratories in the hope that a vaccine would be found to help stem the tide.
The UK was one of the first to approve of some vaccines.
The UK has invested heavily in these products.
Then along comes the EU flexing its weight and muscle to declare that they, the EU, are not getting what they asked for, were promised.
So this is how the picture looks in real terms.
I am in a restaurant and have ordered my meal and am waiting to be served.
In comes the EU and insists on jumping the queue and being served before me because he's bigger than me.
The EU were behind the UK in approving the vaccines, they also placed their orders much later than the UK (we wont mention the side deal done by the Germans this will weaken the argument).
Now the EU is DEMANDING that it jump the queue and take for itself goods they didn't think it worth investing in before they were proved affective.
Gosh
Now isn't the EU a jolly neighbour to have?
 

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THE EU SHOWS ITS TRUE COLOURS OF PROTECTIONISM

The EU has backtracked on a threat to trigger a Brexit deal clause to stop the unimpeded flow of coronavirus vaccines into Northern Ireland.
The proposed move would have prevented the territory from being used as a backdoor route to funnel the jab from the bloc into the rest of the UK.
But under the post-Brexit deal, EU products should still be able to travel unhindered from the bloc to Northern Ireland.
The U-turn came late on Friday night after the threat was met with fierce backlash from Boris Johnson, the Irish government and even the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Due to the slow and uneven roll out of the vaccine inoculations the EU is using this as a smoke screen to cover their ineptness (German is doing its own thing) and showing that regardless of its "concern" for the Good Friday Agreement its prepared to break clauses in the Brexit withdrawal agreement.
Trust the EU?
 

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At the risk of becoming boring its funny how the European Commission did a back track once on making hard boarder in Ireland. once the WTO came on side and accused them of becoming hostile.

Its good to see that the European Commission take total control in organising ALL THE EU COUNTRIES for the distribution of vaccines, so the EU itself was deciding who got what and when! The EU had decided that it could force companies that made the vaccines in any of its member states to "stand and deliver" once again showing how the European Commission doesnt like to play by the rules if the rules don't suit them.
Needless to say Macron hurled himself into the fray accusing the UK of not playing by the rules but maybe that's just Macron throwing up smoke to deflect from the interest in his sex life, a subject currently rife on social media. and France.
And then there's Germany who have been quietly and efficiently getting on with vaccinations regardless of the European Commissions work.
 

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As the pandemic hit the world the UK placed orders with several laboratories in the hope that a vaccine would be found to help stem the tide.
The UK was one of the first to approve of some vaccines.
The UK has invested heavily in these products.
Then along comes the EU flexing its weight and muscle to declare that they, the EU, are not getting what they asked for, were promised.
So this is how the picture looks in real terms.
I am in a restaurant and have ordered my meal and am waiting to be served.
In comes the EU and insists on jumping the queue and being served before me because he's bigger than me.
The EU were behind the UK in approving the vaccines, they also placed their orders much later than the UK (we wont mention the side deal done by the Germans this will weaken the argument).
Now the EU is DEMANDING that it jump the queue and take for itself goods they didn't think it worth investing in before they were proved affective.
Gosh
Now isn't the EU a jolly neighbour to have?
This is a nonsense scenario... and I think you'll find, even if we do extend your tedious metaphor, that the larger diner has agreed not to queue jump.
 

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At the risk of becoming boring its funny how the European Commission did a back track once on making hard boarder in Ireland. once the WTO came on side and accused them of becoming hostile.

Its good to see that the European Commission take total control in organising ALL THE EU COUNTRIES for the distribution of vaccines, so the EU itself was deciding who got what and when! The EU had decided that it could force companies that made the vaccines in any of its member states to "stand and deliver" once again showing how the European Commission doesnt like to play by the rules if the rules don't suit them.
Needless to say Macron hurled himself into the fray accusing the UK of not playing by the rules but maybe that's just Macron throwing up smoke to deflect from the interest in his sex life, a subject currently rife on social media. and France.
And then there's Germany who have been quietly and efficiently getting on with vaccinations regardless of the European Commissions work.
I'd say you could write for The Express but you might have to brush up the spelling and grammar.

And anyway, given Boris' morals, sex life and trail of... how many children again? ...given all that, I'm not sure that slinging mud at Macron really works.
 

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I'd say you could write for The Express but you might have to brush up the spelling and grammar.

And anyway, given Boris' morals, sex life and trail of... how many children again? ...given all that, I'm not sure that slinging mud at Macron really works.
Just pointing out that Macron like Trump and other politicians always throw up a smoke screen to deflect from other stories.
And if you're happy for the European Commission to jump queue, break agreements then I'm happy for you.
Even this EU ploy is designed to move attention from the woeful situation they've created by hoping to have ALL the control in Brussels and realising that their slow action has meant they are not prepared - unlike the the UK
 
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Does any if this REALLY surprise any of us? It merely CONFIRMS the neo liberal ideology of utter control of everything,even vaccines!
Everything comes out in the wash sooner or later.
 

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I'm pro European and a total remainer but the EU have made a total mess of their vaccine procurement and so far the deployment.

Watching the EU rubbish to the Oxford/ AstraZeneca and implying the UK health authorities rushed their approval is damaging for everyone not just the UK
 

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I'm pro European and a total remainer but the EU have made a total mess of their vaccine procurement and so far the deployment.

Watching the EU rubbish to the Oxford/ AstraZeneca and implying the UK health authorities rushed their approval is damaging for everyone not just the UK
Yes, it does pose certain intellectual backflips for remainers. You will note that various European countries are pairing off to buy vaccines on the quiet, like Germany, Hungary &c...
 

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I'm pro European and a total remainer but the EU have made a total mess of their vaccine procurement and so far the deployment.

Watching the EU rubbish to the Oxford/ AstraZeneca and implying the UK health authorities rushed their approval is damaging for everyone not just the UK
Its a defence mechanism for the cock up made by the commission, plus the fact the French don't have a vaccine that's ready, most countries in the EU didn't plan ahead (except Germany) and so its easier to "claim" something is inferior - but watch as they'll still use it.
Central control over the pandemic should have happened in unison from the start and even more so now that there is central control for the distribution of a preventative measure. But they wont have a cohesive plan because one size doesnt fit all, and hence the basic fault of the EU premise. Instead of grasping the opportunity they carp and bicker trying to look big and important buit instead reduce their efforts to the level of schoolyard bickering.
Its one thing that, possibly through default, Boris has got right and its one thing the Biden is trying hard to pull together.
At the end of the day its all for the common good and not the glorification of individual countries Mister Macron!
 

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Its a defence mechanism for the cock up made by the commission, plus the fact the French don't have a vaccine that's ready, most countries in the EU didn't plan ahead (except Germany) and so its easier to "claim" something is inferior - but watch as they'll still use it.
Central control over the pandemic should have happened in unison from the start and even more so now that there is central control for the distribution of a preventative measure. But they wont have a cohesive plan because one size doesnt fit all, and hence the basic fault of the EU premise. Instead of grasping the opportunity they carp and bicker trying to look big and important buit instead reduce their efforts to the level of schoolyard bickering.
Its one thing that, possibly through default, Boris has got right and its one thing the Biden is trying hard to pull together.
At the end of the day its all for the common good and not the glorification of individual countries Mister Macron!

Bashing the Oxford / AstraZeneca vaccine and the UK medicine authorities for taking risks isn't helpful to anyone, as we all need to maintain trust in the vaccines. Some countries ** cough France** are clearly doing it to cover up their mistakes and their piss poor effort to vaccinate it's population.

Vaccine strategy is the only thing the UK has got right. A mixture of early punts by smart people and a bit of luck means all the vaccine horses the UK backed at the start have came in good.

Non of this changes my mind on leaving the EU though, it is still a silly, insular move by the UK