Economic Socialism vs Cultural Marxism... the worse of the two

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  1. faceking

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    While we debate the merits of the socialist takeover of business, "oversight" on big bad capitalism, federal government can fix all ills, run national healthcare with Veteran Adminstration-like efficiency, and so on... the Obama administration is quietly moving about with a political correctness that is moving with fervor and guided purpose it seems.

    Vernacular is not only moving to the complete left, but any opposition seems to be labeled at racism and homophobia. With the former, it's been the left that has used and exploited race FAR more than any other point of view (just look at the hypocrisy that is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson).

    Napalotano can't even say the word, or any action or mere tie in with the words "illegal alien". Someone needs to tell that dude, it's a pure definition, not an colorful label. Terrorism has become "man-caused disaster". Are you kidding me? St Patrick's Day is now Potato Day. "Behead those who insult Mulsim" is freedom of speech, yet the Fairness Doctrine is paramount. "Global war on terror" now has been updated to read as "oversees contingency operation".

    Looking forward to more "guidance" that leaks out of this 'administration'.

    This "gross appeasement" with the niavity that it will fix all ills,... is beyond folly. After all, and I've asked a number of times in boards like this... what did we do to anger them so much to enact 9/11. Bush is the cause for the word and the middle east and mooslim extremists for hating us so much... but if that's the case, what the hell, or why the hell did 9/11 happen? What was it that Bill Clinton did to give cause for a multi-year planned attack? What did the Democrats do to anger another culture so much?

    A handful of years ago, I'd of said... "at least France will like us more for it", but given what they are dealing with and crap they are seeing (where the US will be in 10 years), I doubt that highly.

    Let's just hope Barrah doesn't squander the national security he inherited.
     
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    As usual......what the hell are you talking about?
    How did that "Mission Accomplished" thing go for you?
    Where the Fuck is Osama Bin Laden?
    Why don't YOU tell us all about what 'CLINTON' did to "PISS THEM OFF".
    I have traveled this entire planet EXTENSIVELY......and believe me when i tell you FACEY......you are what the rest of the world HATES about the USA. "Mooslims" eh? Facey....the great MASTER-debater. BAIT and SWITCH stupidity.
     
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    Drinking again?
     
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    No just a side-thought while I was calculating all my multi-national real estate taxes.. figured I could take a 7 parts of posts to blather about myself, or provide some observation.
     
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    I wasn't as fortuante to "sugar daddy" my wealth like middriffbear did... i can only wish for a glory hole on Revolucion....
     
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    Was that you i saw selling Blowjobs thru the hole in the wall down there? I guess for the likes of you......an excellent way to 'BUY' your self-respect back. And one other thing Facey......A Donkey show is NOT letting the Donkey Fuck you in the ass.
     
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    " 'Buy' [Faceking's] self-respect back?" How can someone buy back something they never had to begin with?
     
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    Back to the OP...maybe you can scan all your bank statements and property deeds Mr Braggadocio, since we can't seem to get much less a gallery shot of you.. 2,200 posts on a big dick forum... much less a photo verification with a 3"x5" card. Your wealth and economic wherewithall reads like "internet inches"...
     
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    And you have what? Shown an ability to ejaculate on your mom's mirror's?
    Still waiting to check out your D-45 Martin....... Won't hold my breath.
    Piker.
     
  14. Phil Ayesho

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    Here's the problem.

    Your original question is disingenuous crap.

    As are ALL conservative rantings and accusation on the issue of "socialism".


    You rubes keep wanting to characterize ANY government program as "socialism" as if it were the equivalent of Soviet or Chinese collectivist socialism.

    And that is an outright and indefensible lie.

    By that yardstick, Defense spending is Socialism.

    Yep- taxpayer money being spent By the government to provide a necessary service to all.
    The Post Office is Socialism..
    Yep- taxpayer money being spent to support the delivery of mail.

    The Darpa funding that first resulted in the Arpanet,,, and then the internet... YEP- socialist govenrment spending of money on virtual infrastructure.

    The cast iron pensions and 100% government paid healthcare for OUR congressmen?
    YEP socialism.

    Your municipal water supply... and sewer system?... socialism.

    Roads, bridges, and the interstate highway system? socialism.


    Conservative dimwits are parroting the disinformation tactics of their rube-publican overlords by trying to equate GOVERNMENT ITSELF with socialism.


    Well, its just absolute bullshit.

    We have managed to have a Socialist military for nigh onto 200 years now, and you can still start your own fucking business without too much trouble.

    We manage to freely drive on the public highways and thoroughfares, despite the fact that they were built with government funds employing workers in a CLEARLY socialist spending program...

    And whe you flush your toilet.... your shit doesn't seem to care that its a socialist waste treatment facility that manages to take care of the mess without charging you some obscene profit to do so.



    So , please... step off and shut up about "socialism"... you sad misguided conservatives simply do not have the historical literacy to even understand what the word means.

    Essential services being provided by the government, or by qualified monoplies that are heavily regualted and whose profits are controled by the govenrment is NOT socialism.

    Its what we USED to call our Democratic Government back when it actually was increasing the standard of living for the average American.


    You remember... back before Reagan when government was not treated as an unamerican concept.

    You really need to read up a little on history and on government and strive to comprehend these issues before you start spouting off.

    By the Republican 'definition' of socialism... all GOOD governance is socialism.

    But that is precisely what I would expect a bunch of fascists to argue.
    Wake up.
    Time for us realize that jerks who think govenrment is bad are the ones who make bad governments.
     
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    Did someone forget to give Facequeen his meds again?
     
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    Wow, because in the previous administration, the opposition was NOT labeled as unpatriotic or un-american or any other kind of ad hominem attack.

    And do you have sources to back up these allegations of overplaying the race card? I haven't noticed accusations that didn't actually have some merit when it came to race or homophobia.
     
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    Phil,

    I noticed that you are taking the hard line and suggesting that any kind of government spending is considered socialism.

    Okay, you are suggesting that conservatives want no government and a philosophy of anarchy.

    That is not the case. Gov't spending is necessary in terms of defense, infrastructure, etc.

    There is a huge, huge difference in defense and infrastructure spending....and what Obama, Pelosi, etc. have in mind for the role of government.

    The true definition of Socialism is that it is a pitstop on the road to Communism.

    When the gov't starts getting involved in business ownership...that is truly headed into the lap of VI Lenin. They truly think they can do better for people than people can do for themselves.

    As you continue to decry the perils of deregulation and the criminal uber-rich....you also continue/choose to ignore the harmful results of government intervention such as CRA that led to this disaster.

    The government is absolutely horrible at running any type of business. They lose money on prisons, jails..nearly everything that they touch. Their involvement in just about anything is an inevitable disaster. Its run by self-serving, power hungry assholes - both sides, Dems and Repubs. They fuck up everything they touch.
     
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    One can argue (probably correctly) that Roosevelt was not fully cognizant of the consequences of the massive re-structuring of governmental power, and massive imposition of federal power into the everyday lives of Americans

    Obama, on the other hand, seems to be fully cognizant of what he is doing -- explicitly rewriting the national charter, from "... the pursuit of happiness ... " to the IMPOSITION of happiness; See his remarks on what he envisions for the duty of his Supreme Court appointee:

    "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."

    Thus, creatively ignoring, or reconstructing the Constitution, and making up laws as we go along, institutionalizing, and assigning more power to an increasingly centralized, increasingly powerful federal government, intervening in every aspect of our lives, protecting us from ourselves, in furtherance of implementing a messianic lib ideology, and lib social engineering fad of the moment.

    Which, of course, requires stifling any divergence of thought or opinion, stifling any dissent, as one thought, one set of values is imposed, or tolerated:

    "I am absolutely convinced that culture Wars are just so '90s. Their days are growing dark."

    Even more disturbing, is the amount of support he is receiving ...
     
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    Nick, your fear is breathtaking in its scope. Someday you'll see that it doesn't come from a place of strength so much as weakness.

    I know that Starinvestor already understands that. He's just happier being afraid.
     
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    Afraid of gov't running my life; yes - very afraid.:biggrin1:
     
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