ED in young males

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  1. whataboutboo

    whataboutboo New Member

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    Im 23 and i have ed and im having a hell of a time finding a doctor who will help me everyone of them has said in in different ways "your 20 something you dont have ed its just nerves" and they dont believe me when i tell them i havent masturbated in over a year i even went and saw a urologist and he told me it was nerves but here i sit 23 and unable to achieve an erection one doctor flat our accused me of faking it so i could get cialis i mean for christ sake im asking for cialis what 23 year old would know that theres another drug out there besides viagra ill tell you what kind one whos spent many a night online researching trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with him

    sorry for the rant i guess it boils down to is i cant get hard docs wont help any other options
     
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    Once again young male health takes a rumble seat to everyone else.

    Fuck that urologist. Report him to the ABU for violation of ethics. No doctor should dismiss the presentation of symptoms as delusional unless the doctor has the credentials to judge if you are delusional. So unless that guy also has a degree in psychology or psychiatry, he's shit out of luck.

    Urolgoists, for whatever reason, tend to be jerks. I don't know why. Go to another one and if he accuses you of lying then tell him straight out to perform tests to prove you're lying. Medicine these days is a disaster. You have to fight for every single thing or else they'll just try to push you out and bill you. If they're so damn sure you're lying then do a sleep study. That will prove definitively whether you're really impotent or not. In the sleep study they attach a plethysmograph to your penis and they can tell if you're getting nocturnal (involuntary) erections. Be polite but assertive when dealing with doctors and don't hesitate to dump one for another if you think you're not receiving the care you should be getting. That's how it works.
     
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    I really get disgusted in situations like this. I live with ED every day and I agree with Jason in that you need to be properly evaluated. ED is not a medical condition confined to men over 50 and any MD stating that it is simply does not want to take the time. Mine was injury based and developed later in life, but I was HS aged when the injury took place.......................After the injury by the way I had problems for about a month, but some scar tissue formed later and that was when the problems started. This needs careful evaluation adn to be taken seriously.

    The problem you have is getting the evaluation you need paid for by insurance. I strongly recommend Boston Medical for your initial evaluation. They do doppler tests and a few others. Quite frankly, if you test out with ED the ONLY way to totally fix the problem is to deal with this using injection therapy. If your ED is severe enough to be as you describe it, the orals are going to be worthless.

    The problem with Boston Med is that they are expensive AND they do not accept insurance. You are looking at about $2,500 for a one year program. If you are diagnosed and do the one year program you can take that medical record elsewhere and progress on with medication renewals only. That gets a great deal cheaper.

    In a person of your age group the cause of ED needs to be carefully investigated to eliminate any serious causes. This can be congenital and can be a blockage that may be able to be dealt with surgically.

    If you feel you need to, you can write to me personally on this one and I will give you more information.

    One more thing, my own experiences with this subject are that about 75% of the urologists out there are NOT qualified to deal with ED problems. I have been told by Urologists absolute baloney about the medications I myaelf inject. They flat out do not know and do not have the ability to diagnose and treat your problem. This is one that will take more than one evaluation no matter what the age is. I have three friends with the same problem in my age group. I am the ONLY one who has received good treatment and the others keep trying things that don't work AND don't understand how the injectables work. I have been trying to get this help for others and I have been fighting an uphill battle on their behalf. I am doing great!

     
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    Here, Here! Ken!

    As they say, always get a board-certified urologist. If you can, however, look for an andrologist. These are cross-trained physicians usually with board certifications in Urology and Endocrinology. They specialize in male-related fertility issues of which ED is one. It's remarkable what a good andrologist can do. They are rare though and tough to find outside of major cities. Use that website or other similar sites to find one and consider it.

    Shop your doctors. Look to see what their credentials are. See where they graduated from and always ask if they're board certified in their speciality. If they're not, look elsewhere.

    It's also important to check your insurance benefits. Some plans, like PPOs, allow you to go outside of their system for additional cost. Don't let the costs scare you however. Many good doctors work on a sliding-scale of fees and will work with you to be able to afford their services. Urologists don't take home a lot of money compared to some specialities and all those diplomas on the wall cost a fortune to get as do all those people running around at the front of the office. Even then, plenty of doctors will work with you. Talk to the doctor directly about your ability to pay for continuing treatment and I suggest bringing a copy of your insurance policy with you when you go to visit.

    Like Sy Syms used to say, "An edcuated consumer is our best customer." Never is that more true than when it comes to health care. YOU must be on top of what's happening to YOU. Squeaky wheels get grease if they're polite, and, as my mother the PR executive says, "ingratiatingly dogmatic."
     
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    Next time a doctor or consultant tells you it's nerves, just turn round and ask him has he ever had ED problems. if the answer is no then how does he know how it is making you feel and affecting you life. Some of these medics want knocking off the pedistal and listen to what their patients are really saying. rather than dismissing them in a glib off handed manner.

    Hope you get your problem resolved real soon

    Good luck, keep us posted on how things progress for you.

    Cheers Smartalk
     
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    I dont agree. I thought I had ED for the longest time in my marriage. Three years to be exact. I tried pills and all kinds of shit. Even Viagra. Viagra doesnt do a fucking thing unless you are turned on. So I couldnt fuck my wife and she left me. When I met a new woman and it went to sex for the first time I was SCARED! My dick was hard, but I was afraid it would go soft like always. The beautiful woman said to me just fuck me and cum whenever you want, no pressure we have to get used to one another. Well, 45 minutes later I came, so hard my legs hurt. It works fine if you have the right partner, I am living proof.
     
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    OP, how is your health? I'm also 23 and while I wasn't having full blown ED I wasn't happy with the quality of my erections. I completely cut out red meat from my diet and felt so much more energetic, lost some weight and sex and my erections greatly improved.
     
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    I'm a fairly young guy (34) dealing with ED myself. I'm having prostate issues, which I'm told are the cause of my woes. Viagara seems to work okay for me, but I have experienced some of the side effects rather severely.

    My doctor had the same "why are you here?" attitude with me, but didn't give me any hassles with getting a script. My suggestion would be to get a second opinion, like has been mentioned above.
     
  9. Domisoldo

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    Do you mean you don't even get morning woodies, or notice an erection when you're awakened in the middle of a dream?

    Men (even baby boys as it happens) are supposed to get erect while in REM sleep.

    Did you tell your (bad) urologist about that detail?
     
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    I hear ya, I've had other challenges, and yes some doctors have their
    brains shoved up their arses! Some of them can be something else!
    It was not too long ago when the MD threw you out of the office for
    seeing a Chiropractor!!! Talk about being stuck in the middle ages.
    I go to a Chinese doctor now, no problems at all! Heck they've been
    around for a hell of a long time! LOL
    Best of luck bud!:smile:
     
  11. Dave NoCal

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    Few people are more cynical than I am about the medical profession. At least 90% of them are arrogant twits. That said, my own experience with urologists is that they have been more conscientious and approachable than most physicians. General surgeons tend to be the very worst. Just this week I was talking with one who asked me if I had ever had a test to evaluate the functioning of my stomach. For the sake of clarity, not to show off, or whatever, I asked if he meant a gastric empptying study. He got all testy and asked: "How do you know that?" I was surprized and not sure what he meant and asked and he said again, in a very annoyed tone: "How do you know it's called a gastric emptying study?" I explained that another physician had discussed it with me and he calmed down. I guess since a PHYSICIAN told me about it, it was alright for me to know! Fucking creep.
    Anyway, OP, how is your general health? Do you wake up with a stiffie? At your age that should be happening most of the. I agree, as usual, with Jason. I suggest you try to find a urologist who specializes in male fertility issues. Usually these guys are at major universities.
    Dave
     
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