Whew...got through the whole damned thread...I kind of regret it other than reminded of how lpsg really does have some very smart members (I'd point you out, but don't want to be seen as sucking up for favors ;-) ).
After a number of posts I was pissed-off and insulted and brought back by other posts that were rational, funny or balanced. I kept reading to see the reaction to this notion of "creepy" (having a hidden and likely offensive agenda) and that most 'nice guys' have a hidden agenda if they'd be honest with themselves and others. I actually find that idea offensive and poisoning. I'd label myself a nice guy, and I don't do or say nice things just so I have a better chance of getting somebody in bed. (oh no, I just realized that ALL the people I've slept with started with one of us being _nice_)
I despise the idea that any nice thing I say or do now will cause somebody to think "hmm...what is he really up to?" I don't have enough brain cells to constantly worry about how a hello or nice gesture is going to be interpreted. If anything I'll just interact less often.
Yes, I acknowledge there are people out there faking or with a hidden agendas, but I suspect there are a much greater number of decent straightforward members. The mods here seem to do a decent job of routing the bad actors as their discovered.
Sorry if this comes off as a rant....I'm going to go run it off now
Greg