ejaculation=prostate health

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  1. B_UNKNOWN321

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    It has long been thought that men who have frequent sex in whatever form have lower risk of prostate cancer than those who do not. When prostate cancer was relatively rare this did not seem of much note, but now it is not rare so part of genital health for those with or without large equipment like us need to take whatever precautions we can. Studies now suggest that frequent ejaculation by purging the prostate gland may keep cancer causing substances from building up in the prostate. What do you think about this from your readings? Also of note is suggestion by some in the literature that self massage to regularly completely empty all prostatic fluid also may reduce the chances of prostatitis and maybe cancer. Here's the problem. The method suggested seems to me possible only for gymnasts. One must insert the middle finger in the rectum from behind so that finger is arched downward and can be used forcefully to massage the prostate and force all the fluid out of it. Try as hard as I have I cannot quite get the finger in at that angle. From the front is worthless since you cannot get the proper leverage to force all fluid out of all the lobes of the prostate. Do you think this is just hokum and cannot regular ejaculation do as much purging as this contortionist stunt?
     
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    Couldn't hurt.........so to speak. :)
     
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    Actually, it was long belived that increased sex caused higher rates of prostate cancer (just as it has from time to time been blamed for increasing cervical cancer risk in women), and only recenltly proven that the opposite is true. Michael Leitzmann of the Nation Cancer Institute started out to test this theory that too much sex could lead to increased risk of prostate cancer. The supposed increase in risk was due to various infections (including minor ones not recognized as STDs) which could be induced by frequent sex. What they found was quite the opposite, that frequent sex presented no increase in risk, but rather actually appeared beneficial. Compared to the reference group who ejaculated four to seven times a month, "each increase of three ejaculations per week was associated with a 15 per cent decrease in the risk of prostate cancer", says Leitzmann. "More than 12 ejaculations per month would start conferring the benefit - on average every second day or so," he says. However, while the findings are statistically significant, Leitzmann remains cautious. "I don't believe at this point our research would warrant suggesting men should alter their sexual behaviour in order to modify their risk." You can read more about this research in the New Scientist, at http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4861

    A different investigative team in Australia, led by Graham Giles of The Cancer Council Victoria in Melbourne, approached the same topic. However, they chose to investigate masturbation, since this removed the element of possible infections due to sex, and therefore might show an even greater benefit. The team concludes that the more men ejaculate between the ages of 20 and 50, the less likely they are to develop prostate cancer. The research found the protective effect of masturbation is greatest while men are in their twenties: those who had ejaculated more than five times per week in their twenties, for instance, were one-third less likely to develop aggressive prostate cancer later in life (BJU International, vol 92, p 211). The team speculates that ejaculation prevents carcinogens building up in the gland. You can read more about this work here: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3942

    However, while keeping the prostate flushed out, so to speak, seems to be healthy, I'm not sure that forcing the fluid out by unnatural means would be a good idea. In some men, it is possible to induce a natural ejaculation quite rapidly by gently stimulating the prostate with the finger. This would seem to be a healthy and perhaps time-saving alternative to jerking off. I suspect this is what is meant by self-massage. In men that can ejaculate this way, this does not require a large force to be applied to the prostate, but just gentle stimulation. Therefore, the comment about needing "leverage" seems out of place. It is also possible to eject fluid from the prostate by the application of large amounts of unnatural force, without producing the normal orgasmic contraction of the muscles. However, I don't think this is what the proponents of prostate massage meant, as this would seem likely to eventually cause injury. I would think that more frequent draining by natural means would be better than less frequent forcefull unnatural expression of the fluid.
     
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    Also, prolonged stimulation without ejaculation is a Bad Thing.
     
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    are you kidding because i'm a little worried now
    i have been edging and not cumming for like 2 months now
     
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    I know for a fact that frequent ejaculation promotes prostate health.

    I have had two bouts of nonspecific prostatitis. (in other words,
    it wasnt caused by an STD or any reason the urologists could find)...

    But, i wasnt ejaculating frequently, and i was between partners at the time.

    The cure?
    EJACULATE....and boy does it help.
    Best prescription i ever got from a doc.
     
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    I am glad that others have given the research information about this. I read all of that info in the paper but didn't remember the source. Earlier when I posted, some questined it. I am glad we have the actual study quoted. Guys will be more apt to follow it now. And yes, I have had to masturbate before myself for the same reason.

     
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    i dont think i'll be getting prostatitis, as dont feel pain while urinating, but i havn't cummed yet. Is it really a big deal to edge and not cum?
     
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    My first post! This reminds me of watching this report on tv with my now exwife. It said that lack of sex causes prostate cancer, I turned to her and said, so that's it you're trying to kill me. LOL
     
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    so you guys arn't kidding, i should cum once and a while to stay healthy?
     
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    YES ! :)
     
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    Thanks to all you men and your affirmation of disease avoidance benefits of frequent ejaculation, I hope to continue ejaculating as frequently as possible. No one commented positively on the finger massage method of completely emptying the prostate so maybe that is left only to the contortionists to perform. Since you fellas of extraordinary length seem more highly sexed anyway that shouldn't be too heavy a burden to bear to save yourselves from the extreme discomfort of prostatitis or even enlarged prostate (friends of mine can barely urinate with it) and life threatening prospects of prostate cancer. Keep ejaculating and often.
     
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    Edging for a while is fine. But you should finish up a session by cumming. And all guys need to keep the plumbing working frequently. Not cumming for any prolonged period is a bad idea.
     
  15. Imported

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    Hal8053:

    Hey that's a good one!



    As a victim of Prostate Cancer, I would believe somewhat regular orgasms would have a minor beneficial effect on your avoidance chances.

    But there are other factors.

    While my frequency was not necessarily above average except in early teen years, I did manage to quite regularly have orgasms, of course giving a hand when the wife wasn't amenable or available.

    Now maybe if I had this information by age 20 and opportunity to pursue it properly- !!!!!

    BTW, I sure hope they can come up with better approach to a cure. Currently they either castrate you chemically or physically or remove the prostate.

    Sex without a prostate gives you about 1/3 the orgasm satisfaction you have with one. The prostate is part muscle and enforces both the erection itself and the ejaculation. If you are lucky enough to not be completely impotent you may well end up with about 2 throbs! But no mess!

    Also when you have a prostate the refilling of the prostate between encounters provides a lot ot that "I gotta have it feeling!"

    Other bad news- my RP was 14 years ago- but I cannot be considered for sure "Cured" .
     
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    Hey that's a good one!



    As a victim of Prostate Cancer, I would believe somewhat regular orgasms would have a minor beneficial effect on your avoidance chances.

    But there are other factors.

    While my frequency was not necessarily above average except in early teen years, I did manage to quite regularly have orgasms, of course giving a hand when the wife wasn't amenable or available.

    Now maybe if I had this information by age 20 and opportunity to pursue it properly- !!!!!

    BTW, I sure hope they can come up with better approach to a cure. Currently they either castrate you chemically or physically or remove the prostate.

    Sex without a prostate gives you about 1/3 the orgasm satisfaction you have with one. The prostate is part muscle and enforces both the erection itself and the ejaculation. If you are lucky enough to not be completely impotent you may well end up with about 2 throbs! But no mess!

    Also when you have a prostate the refilling of the prostate between encounters provides a lot ot that "I gotta have it feeling!"

    Other bad news- my RP was 14 years ago- but I cannot be considered for sure "Cured" .
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    Thank you for honestly revealing the pain and some of the suffering that has resulted from your cancer and hopefully giving us the strength of purpose to do whatever we can to prevent it happening to us.

    Perhaps by regular ejaculations you were able to postpone the onset of your prostate cancer or lessen its severity. In any event, I can think of very few pleasurable activities that have as a benefit, delay or prevention of a cancer. So many posts are rather superficial in this site as one expect since men are often rather protective of their inner feelings about their vulnerabilities but yours was quite uplifting to me. A site devoted to large penises seems at first glance such a trite venture, but I think any venue in which to gather a group that have some commonality (even a larger penis) is a good excuse to get to know other men, many needing an anonymous discussion group. I am happy to be a member even if membership reasonably expects you to have problems with a very large penis. Thanks for adding an extraordinarily serious message to the postings.
     
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    No, this is not hokum, it really works, but since everyone's built different, I would suggest having your partner do it for you. It doesn't matter which finger they use, the prostate gland can easily be found, it feels like a small round ball inside the anus and rubbing it will cause it to tighten up, which is very exciting. The ejaculations that result from this kind of stimulation will be like nothing you've ever felt!

    ps, if you don't currently have a partner, try a small vibrator, that should do the trick.
     
  18. Imported

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    carolinacurious: I've never used this device, but supposedly it can be used both for really incredible orgasms as well as prostatic release without orgasm (perfect for chastity and edger-philes).

    Available from many places, medical and sexually oriented, here's one at random:

    The Aneros Prostate Massager

    http://www.chastity-uk.co.uk/prostate.htm


    And TRANCE: No, nobody's kidding, this topic also comes up fairly often. Cum already and make it a habit.
     
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    Well since I have been taking yoga classes for several months I tried to backwards entrance method (disgusting I know, but....) and could barely get the middle finger in there but not far enough to do any good. From the front you just cannot achieve sufficient downward pressure. I hate to order one of these things, but if it will give an extra measure of protection from prostate disease why not. Thanks for your honest and knowledgeable opinions on this important subject.
     
  20. Imported

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    carolinacurious: Motlissof,

    Glad to help. If you get one I would be curious to know of your experience. It's always been curious to me that the medical sites sell it for men who either can't or won't expel prostate fluid the "normal" way, but of course don't talk about the orgasmic effects.

    And the sex sites either sell it as a way to have "mind blowing" orgasms, better than ever before or as a "chastity helper" device, "Now your mistress can deny you orgasm for months without that unsightly prostate buildup."

    I've always wondered how it could do both.
     
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