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If your candidate loses, will you keep the peace?

  • Yes - Keep the peace

    Votes: 19 76.0%
  • No - Join the resistance

    Votes: 6 24.0%

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With everyone wanting more civility in the Nation and politics, I have a very simple question I want people to answer:

If your candidate does not win the election, will you keep the peace?

Please answer:

Yes - Keep the peace
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No - Join the resistance

My answer is: Yes - Keep the peace.

Those are the only answers that are acceptable. I don't want to know the reasons why you are voting for the candidate of your choice. I don't want a long dissertation. I just want the YES or No answers.
 

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"... Join the resistance"?

Not trying to disrupt your thread, but, this needs to be clearer. Who's resistance? Do you mean the resistance of the candidate who fails, or of his supporters?

My answer is: Yes - Keep the peace.

A/B
 
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Technically "yes", but only as a matter of relative apathy; I'm not sufficiently moved by any of the candidates that I would be motivated to disrupt my normal occupational focus.
 

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"... Join the resistance"?

Not trying to disrupt your thread, but, this needs to be clearer. Who's resistance? Do you mean the resistance of the candidate who fails, or of his supporters?

My answer is: Yes - Keep the peace.

A/B

So I marked:

My answer is: Yes - Keep the peace.

Not sure what the term peace might or might not mean.
 
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Sorry couldn't answer the poll because the choices are too narrow and full of black & white assumption.

To me, the implication seems to be that choosing "keeping the peace" means accepting the results without question and thus rolling over and being quiet.

While choosing "joining the resistance" seems to imply both not accepting the results but also to express that dissatisfaction violently.

It is possible to be both in as far as if Trump is declared the winner by obvious illegal means I will resist what I will see as an illegitimate rule but will do so in both legal and non-violent fashion.

I really think you need to rethink how you word the choices or at least add an "other, please explain" option.
 

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I really think you need to rethink how you word the choices or at least add an "other, please explain" option.

I suspect the logical fallacy of the question (along the lines of the old "Do you still beat your wife?") may have been entirely intentional.
 

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I discovered t'other day that the much vaunted stat that there's almost as many guns in America as their are Americans belies the inner truth that gun ownership is spread very unevenly, with a very heavily armed core of 3% holding around half of all firearms.

When it comes to "resistance" I think most of you are already late to the party,
 

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I discovered t'other day that the much vaunted stat that there's almost as many guns in America as their are Americans belies the inner truth that gun ownership is spread very unevenly, with a very heavily armed core of 3% holding around half of all firearms.

When it comes to "resistance" I think most of you are already late to the party,

The relevance of that difference has an upper limit, though. At a certain point the military gets involved, and they become the deciding factor, because no militia rabble has any heat that even begins to compare what our military can bring to bear. Whoever has the military on their side (even if relatively) is the side that would overall win out.
 

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The relevance of that difference has an upper limit, though. At a certain point the military gets involved, and they become the deciding factor, because no militia rabble has any heat that even begins to compare what our military can bring to bear. Whoever has the military on their side (even if relatively) is the side that would overall win out.
Desiree Birch said yesterday "US politics is currently like one of those 'Choose Your Own Adventure' books only the final page just says civil war."

As we know, civil wars are seldom neat, simple affairs... but I'm teasing on some level, I really, genuinely don't think it will come to that. But never underestimate a zelot with a cause. And a shedload of guns.

In extremis I'm sure the generals would step in an escort the former president off the premises. Trump is no coward but he's not violent either.

Of course, the simplest thing would be for Biden to win big.
 

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Civil war? Ridiculous. People have been saying it before every election my entire life. Not going to happen.

Demonstrations? Yes. Some police & demonstrators turn violent? Yes. Civil war? No fucking way.

Same goes for secession movements in every state. We're going to break away! No the fuck you aren't.

Will I march in the streets and attend rallies if Trump's reelected? Yes. Will police turn it into a riot? Probably.

It's called democracy. Every issue and all sides are in the mix. :cool:
 
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Desiree Birch said yesterday "US politics is currently like one of those 'Choose Your Own Adventure' books only the final page just says civil war."

As we know, civil wars are seldom neat, simple affairs... but I'm teasing on some level, I really, genuinely don't think it will come to that. But never underestimate a zelot with a cause. And a shedload of guns.

In extremis I'm sure the generals would step in an escort the former president off the premises. Trump is no coward but he's not violent either.

Of course, the simplest thing would be for Biden to win big.

Frankly, I think force is far too centralized, and the interests of the ruling class far too shared (looking at our political divisions, and the parties behind them, at a certain level reveals them to be mostly a theatrical sham), in American society for anything like a true civil war to be possible anymore.
 

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All I know is if Biden wins I'm ready to defend myself if any of the completely batshit Trump supporters in my area decide to freak the fuck out.

They're already harassing people in the street/in residential neighborhoods, threatening and insulting anyone who doesn't support their dear orange fuck-faced leader.

But the radical left are the ones who are violent, right? : unamused: we went from triggered snowflakes who need safe spaces to dangerous mobs in their minds because mental gymnastics is the sport of choice for the ignorant fucks who culted-up for Trump.

I'm not going to start any confrontations, but I will absolutely defend myself from those who might. And yeah. Here, there are not a silent few who actually might go that far if they lose this election.
 

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All I know is if Biden wins I'm ready to defend myself if any of the completely batshit Trump supporters in my area decide to freak the fuck out.

They're already harassing people in the street/in residential neighborhoods, threatening and insulting anyone who doesn't support their dear orange fuck-faced leader.

But the radical left are the ones who are violent, right? : unamused: we went from triggered snowflakes who need safe spaces to dangerous mobs in their minds because mental gymnastics is the sport of choice for the ignorant fucks who culted-up for Trump.

I'm not going to start any confrontations, but I will absolutely defend myself from those who might. And yeah. Here, there are not a silent few who actually might go that far if they lose this election.

no need for me to post further. You summed up my feelings exactly. Thank you
 

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I discovered t'other day that the much vaunted stat that there's almost as many guns in America as their are Americans belies the inner truth that gun ownership is spread very unevenly, with a very heavily armed core of 3% holding around half of all firearms.

When it comes to "resistance" I think most of you are already late to the party,

I believe you're mistaken in your conclusion if you're buying into the stereotype of America that only the political right owns guns and has been trained to use them. While liberals as a whole have unfortunately pushed gun control to their own detriment for when the Right decides to get violent, not every progressive is totally unprepared for it.

As I said in my previous post, I will practice any resistance to any attempt to steal this election peacefully, legally and non-violently.
But as @Tight_N_Juicy indicated, some of us will defend ourselves against any disgruntled, violent MAGA Hats. What level of response will be required will be entirely up the their actions.
 
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