Emergency Managers Law

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  1. Mensch1351

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    OK Michiganders -- it's time to speak up on here!! What the hell is an "Emergency Manager's Law" in which the "government" -- the big big bad government can actually "take over" a town it deems in trouble -- declare its local elections null and void and be put under the authority of ONE person -- appointed of course by the Governor! So much for the Republicans despising "big brother" government. How in the hell did this law EVER be declared constitutional in Michigan. I didn't think ANYONE let alone any ONE person could declare a legal election null and void!

    So guys/gals -- what's up with this??

    In a list of cities currently coming under this "law" it now seems that almost 1/2 of the entire state of Michigan's African American population lives in towns "taken over" by the State Appointed Tyrants! Interesting! No hidden agenda here huh!!

    This from the Detroit Free Press:
    Conyers: U.S. attorney general reviewing Michigan emergency manager law

    David Shepardson/ Detroit News Washington Bureau

    Washington — U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is reviewing whether the state of Michigan can legally appoint an emergency manager to oversee the Motor City's finances, Rep. John Conyers, D-Detroit, said late today.
    Conyers said he spoke to Holder about his request that the government move to block the law.
    "(Holder) said, 'I've got my lawyers working on it right now,' " Conyers said, adding he spoke to the attorney general about 4 p.m. today. "He's trying to find out if my allegations of great constitutional concerns are valid. That's what he's got several hundred lawyers for."
    The Justice Department confirmed Holder and Conyers spoke — and reiterated that the Justice Department is reviewing the letter.
    Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, sent a letter Dec. 1 to Holder asking him to review whether the state's emergency financial manager law is constitutional and to intervene if necessary to block it. "(Holder) told me he got the letter and he's going to act on it."
    The emergency manager law faces a number of legal challenges. Detroit is facing a $45 million budget deficit shortfall.
    The state has invoked the emergency manager law — though hasn't appointed managers in all cases — in Detroit Public Schools and the cities of Flint, Benton Harbor, Ecorse, Flint, Hamtramck, Highland Park, Inkster and Pontiac. Conyers said the law "is being applied in a discriminatory fashion."
    He also said the law may also violate the Voting Rights Act and the constitutional right to a "republican form of government."
    Conyers said Gov. Rick Snyder, a Republican, has asked to meet with him about the issue and he has agreed to do so at a later date — though no time has been set.
    "The clock is ticking," Conyers said, saying Holder needs to act quickly.
    The state Legislature passed and Snyder signed into law a beefed-up bill that gives state-appointed emergency managers added powers to end financial crises, including voiding contracts, laying off employees and consolidating services.


    From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111206...-Michigan-emergency-manager-law#ixzz1g0FFid6Y
     
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    This has been done earlier this year.
    Basically Michigan is now a Dictatorship.

    The Mayor of Troy was placed into that position, and others will soon follow.

    You can thank the Republican party for that.
     
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    Because Detroit is doing so well running on its own.
     
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    So whenever something isn't "running well on its own", the solution is a government takeover of the situation?

    Duly noted for future reference. :rolleyes:
     
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    Not only that, but they pulled the race card too.
    Detroit should be run by Detroiters, or something like that.
     
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    Black-Led Detroit Resists White Control Under Manager - Businessweek

     
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    Yup, let the black people vote because the powers that be can always just step in and ignore their will.:rolleyes2:

    Can you imagine the uproar by the GOP/TP if the federal government attempted to do this and ignore the votes of the citizens?
     
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    Considering that the cities are bleeding money and can't sustain themselves, sounds like the STATE needs to step in and fix their shit.
     
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    I get it. Sorta like:

    Considering that the banks are bleeding money and can't sustain themselves, sounds like the STATE needs to step in and fix their shit.

    And therefore:

    Considering that poor people are bleeding money and can't sustain themselves, sounds like the STATE needs to step in and fix their shit.

    It's funny but I'd always thought the Republicans were against this sort of thing. Or is it that they're only against helping poor people? But helping cities and banks and rich people is all very well and good?

    Yes, upon further reflection, perhaps that's it.
     
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    Cute, that's not the state's responsibility. Maybe if you pervert it enough, but none of the things you listed is part of their responsibility.
     
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    "Get the government outta my medicare!"


    The perversion is that the party of "small government" and "free enterprise" would crush unions (quintessential example of the freedom to contract) and takeover cities while nullifying their elections. That the cry of socialism only applies to subsidies to poor people, not rich people or multi-national corporations. That Big Government is bad when it helps the lower classes economically, but Big Government is essential when it comes to the military industrial complex, defense spending and corporate welfare. That the Government should stay out of our lives when it comes to gun ownership or taxation, but should ruthlessly police sexuality and birth control (the free market apparently applies to money and guns, but not sex or religion)....

    The hypocrisies run deep.
     
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    Race my ass. It's about greed and corruption on a grand scale.

    Kilpatrick and his cronies have helped to bankrupt Detroit, and there are thousands of people in Detroit that don't pay taxes.

    I do believe that they needed to oust the regime in Detroit and Flint, but there are no safety checks in place to protect the rest of the state from a takeover at any time. The other issue is the Govenor can appoint people - which is like the Fox guarding the hen house.

    Benton Harbor - all the multi-million dollar property there is on the radar of someone, and I guarantee that those homes will be forclosed upon and re-sold to high dollar players in the game.
     
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    This same thing happened in Chelsea, MA in the 90s, where essentially the entire city administration was deemed too corrupt to govern after the city defaulted:

    In September 1991, Massachusetts enacted special legislation to place Chelsea into receivership. Governor William Weld named James Carlin as the first receiver followed by Lewis "Harry" Spence. This was the first time since the Great Depression that a major United States municipality had such an action taken against it. Events preceding the action included failed financial intervention by the state, a political stalemate over the city's budget, deepening economic decline and a spiraling fiscal crisis. Fortunately, Chelsea had no publicly held long-term debt—thus, a solution to its problems could be explored in isolation of creditors.

    A charter change in 1995 led by the receivership through a community process designed an efficient council-manager form of government, which has focused on improving the quality of service the city provides to its residents and businesses, while establishing financial policies that have significantly improved the city's financial condition. Increased emphasis on economic development and capital improvement has led to an influx of new business and homebuyers. In 1998, Chelsea was named winner of the All-America City Award. The community is home to a Carnegie library built in 1910.


    At the time, there was a lot of hand-wringing and clucking because Chelsea is/was a majority-minority community (in their case, hugely Hispanic, though with a large contingent of black residents, too), with all the predictable fuss about white overlords and the whiff of noblesse oblige. In the end, it took several years before the city emerged from receivership, and quite a few more before it was considered an even marginally desirable place to live.

    When I was a kid, Chelsea was synonymous with grinding poverty and its complete undesirability as a place to live was universally acknowledged; the center of town sits quite literally under (note lower right corner) the Tobin Bridge.

    In the end, the thing that "saved" Chelsea was its extremely close proximity to Boston's downtown, and large areas of it became gentrified. The new, more affluent (though not necessarily any whiter) residents simply won't tolerate such shenanigans.
    I moved away from Boston in 1999, but I've been told anecdotally (and frequently) of Chelsea's newly-discovered desirability and the subsequent steep rise in rents.
     
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    Don't you find it interesting that many conservatives DO NOT see the ultimate consequences of the particulars of their stances. LIke "hood ornament" drivers -- so many can't see beyond the end of their own fender. They love broad sweeping slogans but when you show them the inconsistencies of their arguments -- they don't even balk!! As my own brother says when he talks about blacks as "niggers" -- and I quickly point out to him how he screams and yells FOR those "niggers" playing for the Steelers, "Well.....................that's different!" Oh yeah!! Sure!!! The hypocrises DO run deep.........but.........that's different!!:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:
     
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    Sounds to me, as a gay man, that we (gays) should just go in, buy up all the salvageable properties and businesses, gentrify them (as we're are so famous for doing) and then have "breeders" who are always on the look out for a previously neglected but currently gentrified and tony gay area to move into buy us out and displace us -- for the right price. Problem solved.

    Quick, someone call HGTV!
     
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