Ending BUSH Tax Cuts

[B_VinylBoy]

Clueless. How about this. We have class mobility in America, not a caste system. The vast majority of people who make more than $250K earned it. The potential for every American to earn lots of money creates incentives that spur innovation that create opportunity for all and the greatest economy earth has every known. Cut the class warfare bullshit, the wealth transfer shit, and cut the size of government by at least 50 percent. So sick and tired of people complaining about the deficit and acting like raising taxes is the only way. People, you can't have a deficit without SPENDING! Cut government spending. It's all an unsustainable Ponzi scheme. And while you're at it, work harder if you don't like your station in life.

I wouldn't be calling people clueless because they believe in a system where our government tries to help out those who are struggling. There are plenty of people out there who work harder than you could ever fathom, follow the rules and should be in a better place but aren't. It's really easy to assume that people who are poor are lazy. It's one of the most dishonest and distorted arguments in politics today for those who vouch for the shrinking of government and spending cuts.

 

[B_24065]

The morons who voted for $4T in extra debt should have their voting privileges revoked until they can prove to a judge that they are sane again.

You mean Obama? Who added 3T to the debt in 18 months?

 

[faceking]

Funny how it's a tax cut.... when ORIGINALLY these ppl were overtaxed. How about a flat tax..... does Bill Gates really consume $5.2 million in gv't systems.. in especially light that he generated billions in revenue for the federal govt.

The libertard view is ....poor ppl are innocent and complete victims, while the wealthy are evil and undeserved.

Tax cuts? They are already overtaxed.... let's punish success, innovation, et al.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Funny how it's a tax cut.... when ORIGINALLY these ppl were overtaxed. How about a flat tax..... does Bill Gates really consume $5.2 million in gv't systems.. in especially light that he generated billions in revenue for the federal govt.

The libertard view is ....poor ppl are innocent and complete victims, while the wealthy are evil and undeserved.

Tax cuts? They are already overtaxed.... let's punish success, innovation, et al.

More proof that we can never have a real discussion around here.

It would be very easy to pick a political title and claim it as being their distorted motto. But instead of blaming "conservitards" or whatever, I'd much rather focus on the person who spouts the ignorance. So let this be said to this moron: Nobody perceives the poor as complete victims and nobody is demonizing the rich, so shut the fuck up. If anything, there are people on this planet who aren't as self absorbed and GREEDY as you. Perish the thought that there are people that don't always put their wallets in the way of every damn decision in America!! They understand the need to help out others who are less fortunate than themselves. If you're one of the piggish ideological idiots who foolishly believes a "flat tax" is ethical even though it only financially benefits those who don't need the help, then be a man and admit it... and while you're doing so, move the fuck aside so that the more humane people can come up with a viable solution.

Damn... ignorant twats like you make this board absolutely miserable.

 

[maxcok]

Clueless. How about this. We have class mobility in America, not a caste system.

FYI: More and more we have a caste system already, and less and less mobility.
The wealth gap has never been greater since the time leading up to the Great Depression. That's a fact.

The vast majority of people who make more than $250K earned it.

None of them got any help along the way, did they? It was all hard work and sheer yankee pluck and ingenuity, right? I'm gonna take a wild guess from your username that you work on Wall Street. Lucky for you the taxpayer funded bailouts probably saved your job. Now that it's time to pay a bit back to the piper you're gonna throw a tantrum if they take away that unfunded tax break you got from Bush - a large part of that unbalanced equation, along with an unfunded Medicare drug program and two unfunded wars he put on the national credit card, that pushed us into this deficit mess to begin with.

The potential for every American to earn lots of money creates incentives that spur innovation that create opportunity for all and the greatest economy earth has every known.

Oh, that old myth. Are you talking about the house-of-plastic-cards economy that provides less and less innovation and feeds on itself with less and less regulation and more and more exotic financial instruments like credit default swaps, collateralized debt and mortgage obligations, etc., all the slice and dice tricks designed to hide all the dirty laundry, to make money out of thin air, and make traders and investors rich while contributing absolutely nothing of any tangible value to the world other than pure profit on the "balance" sheets? The smoke and mirrors economy that very nearly crashed completely, dragging all the rest of the world's economies down with it? The phoney baloney economy that would and very well may fail again if anybody really started rooting around under that TARP that was tossed over it and seriously tried to unravel the Trillions in Ponzi schemes? That greatest of economies? LOL!

Cut the class warfare bullshit, the wealth transfer shit, and cut the size of government by at least 50 percent.

Why don't you tell us EXACTLY what 50% of government expenditures you would cut, financial genius?

So sick and tired of people complaining about the deficit and acting like raising taxes is the only way. People, you can't have a deficit without SPENDING! Cut government spending. It's all an unsustainable Ponzi scheme. And while you're at it, work harder if you don't like your station in life.

Yes, because as we all know, everybody in America comes from equal circumstances, everyone has equal advantages and equal opportunities in life, nobody gets any lucky breaks, or a leg up, or any help along the way, and if anybody's struggling financially, it's only because they're lazy asses, right?

Nailed it.

I just love simplistic jingoistic solutions that benefit the 'haves' and the 'wanna haves who will never get it', don't you?

Talk about "clueless". :rolleyes2:

 

[B_New End]

Eat the rich. Take everything they own and split it amongst ourselves. If they protest, shoot them. Especially financial industry workers. Or maybe we should just force them in prison cells and then flea bomb them to death, the fate parasites deserve.

 

[maxcok]

. . . parasites . . .

Wurd.

 

[namtra]

It is time that the US government pays its bills. End all of the tax cuts, reform and simplify the tax codes. Everyone should pay taxes of some sort. 40% of Americans do not pay federal taxes as all anymore.

 

[B_New End]

It is time that the US government pays its bills.

Pay its bills to who? Do you know?

 

[B_RedDude]

Funny how it's a tax cut.... when ORIGINALLY these ppl were overtaxed. How about a flat tax..... does Bill Gates really consume $5.2 million in gv't systems.. in especially light that he generated billions in revenue for the federal govt.

The libertard view is ....poor ppl are innocent and complete victims, while the wealthy are evil and undeserved.

Tax cuts? They are already overtaxed.... let's punish success, innovation, et al.

Innovation? You mean the kind of financial innovation that almost brought down the entire global financial system? Some innovation.

People like this poster should be subject to the pre-Reagan highest marginal rate: 70 or 70-something%. Or maybe, better yet, the pre-post-Kennedy highest marginal rate: around 90%.

Anyway, I want to see them scream bloody murder! But the American people are too stupid to elect politicians who would even attempt to do something like this. They're too distracted by the smokescreens conservatives use like same-sex marriage.

 

[dandelion]

The potential for every American to earn lots of money creates incentives that spur innovation that create opportunity for all and the greatest economy earth has every known.

Really? how does that work, then? How much less hard do you work if youre paying 10% tax. How much on 30%, 50%. 90%? If tax was 90% (say you were working in a sweat shop where you have to buy materials from the owner at inflated rates, buy company food, pay company rents) would you take it easy or work harder and harder and harder until you dropped down dead? History says you work harder because you have to.

 

[dandelion]

does Bill Gates really consume $5.2 million in gv't systems.. in especially light that he generated billions in revenue for the federal govt.

Did bill gates ever do anything which means he deserves $1million, 10 million, 100 million....? He was the lucky sob who happened to get handed a contract by IBM which had lost interest in PCs.

 

[B_New End]

bill gates was privileged enough to go to Harvard, and drop out. Enough said.

 

[SilverTrain]

.....{snip}....does Bill Gates really consume $5.2 million in gv't systems.. in especially light that he generated billions in revenue for the federal govt.

Do Con-Agra employees really "consume" the 100 gazillion gallons of water it receives each month for the wonderfully subsidized "price" of 1/1000000000000000000000000th of a cent per acre/foot?

Of course not.

Certain aspects of our society are set up and administered using a methodology a hair more complex than a rigid preschool toy-sharing system.

The libertard view is ....poor ppl are innocent and complete victims, while the wealthy are evil and undeserved.

Tax cuts? They are already overtaxed.... let's punish success, innovation, et al.

I'm sorry, I couldn't quite catch the point, amidst the static drone of THE WORLD'S LAZIEST BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA UPCHUCK

 

[maxcok]

The insatiable greed of the privileged.

 

[Bbucko]

Fiscal responsibility demands austerity measures from everyone. If over 4000 people in nine states are on waiting lists for life-saving medicine, then there are some paying a much higher price than a tax increase.

Death panels, anyone?

 

[liberalcynic]

those at the top have little reason to spend; there's only so much food and services the rich can buy. the poor have a greater reason to spend, they spend more of their income than the rich. thus if you're going to cut taxes, it's the poor and middle classes income. everyone who earns less than 85k is where the cuts need to be made, if they were. but i sit on the thinking of giving people jobs via the state's intervention and giving people better wages via trade unionism.
Moreover, if the US wants to defeat it's economic, and social services issues, it should look to Europe and social liberalism. where countries such as Germany today have the 3% growth and the state provides health care, provides free university education and high quality primary and secondary education along with generous social payments - so if you don't have a job, you can buy the essentials, food and clothes, and keep others employed with your purchasing an in the mean time find a job yourself.

 

[liberalcynic]

The cumulative cost of the two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq now surpasses $1 trillion, including spending for veterans and foreign aid. Those costs could put increased pressure on President Obama and Congress, given the nation's $12.9 trillion debt.

Something tells me there's going to be a need to pull out of Afghanistan soon.

Moreover, the purpose of the state is not to project military power and ensure property rights but to provide a good life to all citizens, even if that means provides social services to all citizens. Wars do not improve the lives of those in a domestic setting, but univeseral health care would.

we need to ask, what makes a policy good? is it good to give the poor health care? is it good to provide a safety net if someone looses their job? is it good that the state provides jobs when someone looses their job? is it good that there's universal education giving people equal opportunity?

 

[B_New End]

we need to ask, what makes a policy good?

Dude, easy, killin' mosslims to help God prove his dick is bigger. Duh. I'm sure it's in the bible somewhere.

 

[B_RedDude]

And another thing. We need to end the corporate agricultural subsidies, as well. As much as some folks like to deride "Pearls" Pelosi as an ultra-liberal, she has protected these subsidies.

Do Con-Agra employees really "consume" the 100 gazillion gallons of water it receives each month for the wonderfully subsidized "price" of 1/1000000000000000000000000th of a cent per acre/foot?