Enlargement Pills

[Chicago_Swimmer]

Thanks Lapdog. Serj's comments sounded more like a sales pitch than a testimonial.

 

[Serj]

Hey LapDog,

Yes I do own www.enhancementresearch.com, why else whould I include it in all of my signatures. However that does not change the fact that I know what I'm talking about. Whether you think that it is a sales pitch or not, the fact remains that they work. Now in order for a product to be FDA approved, it has to go through stringent testing and approval process which can sometimes take over 10 years. Penis Enlargement pills is a phenomenon that is less than 4 years old...that's not enough time is it?

 

[Chicago_Swimmer]

Serj,

I notice on your website that you have links to products if you wish to purchase them. Are you given royalties or some other kind of financial compensation by any of these companies because of your existing links?

Robert

 

[lapdog2001]

Originally posted by Serj@Mar 24 2005, 04:12 PM
Hey LapDog,

Yes I do own www.enhancementresearch.com, why else whould I include it in all of my signatures. However that does not change the fact that I know what I'm talking about. Whether you think that it is a sales pitch or not, the fact remains that they work. Now in order for a product to be FDA approved, it has to go through stringent testing and approval process which can sometimes take over 10 years. Penis Enlargement pills is a phenomenon that is less than 4 years old...that's not enough time is it?

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I also realize that your products may not qualify as 'drugs' so they may be exempt from FDA approval. But sound clinical studies are sound clinical studies. How come none of the penis enlargement companies has ever been able to produce one?

Some links from earlier posts that you seem to ignore:
FDA

MSNBC

QuackWatch

Again, I'm wait to see the results of a true clinical trial from any of the penis pill pushers .....

waiting ....


chirp ... chirp ... chirp

LapDog

 

[13788]

whitford9: I was in a clinical research once-for my portion it took almost 3 months -it was the 4th trial in about as many years. the results were made know to everybody that took part in our study,and the results of the 3 before. The study I was in was by MDS It was a study for zban. to see if smokers ,smoked less while takeing the drug. We were not told to try and quit or encouraged to quit. In the study they also asked daily for any side effects-good or bad.Our vitals were taken 5 times a day ,and blood work drawn daily. It was a controled study ,we had to stay at their place ,everybody got the same food,servings were weighed.No outside food or drink was allowed and no alcohol products-not even after shave was allowed,or mouth wash or even some shampoos were not allowed.there were 60 people in our study and our stays were for 2 stays of 15 days each-with a period of time between.Half of the group were given a plicibo-but we didn't know who we were given subject numbers and every bit of data was logged in under our numbers. Even the staff did not know who got the real thing and who didn't. WE were compensated almost 4,000 dollars each. if you think of all the details that are concidered-a full time nurseing staff-3 shifts. a Dr. there 16 hours a day and one on call 24/7.Those studies are very expensive. There was another study done in another state almost the same time.A major drug Co paid for the studies and they did get FDA approval..All things concidered I don't think any co will do a real clinical study for enhansment suppliments.So don't hold your breath... Allen

 

[lapdog2001]

Accepted clinical trials, for FDA approval or not, would prove that these things work or don't. I don't think all trial require in-house residency or 24 by 7 monitoring.

Don't you think Merk or Pfizer would gladly pay hundreds of thousand or dollars, or even millions for clinical trials, if there were a chance that the enlargement pills work? :think:
This is the biggest clue that the pills don't work.

Look at Rogaine. It only works well for a small percentage of those who use it, but a drug company spent millions on it, and made many more millions on it, because it appeals as a vanity drug.

Just think of the money to be made for a PE pill!

Hey, guess what? That $$$ is why every opportunist around is pushing these phoney pills. Make the most amount of money you can before the FDA and FTC shuts the company down!

LapDog

 

[Kimahri]

I think I like my 8er. Plus, I got to play with some of the super big ones, so, I'm not totally needing to be much bigger.

 

[Chicago_Swimmer]

Kimhari,

I've no desire, nor does my wife, that I grow larger. We do seem have two different types of people belonging to LPSG. Those who are big and those who want to be big. Just thought we would use this poll and forum to dissuade the latter members from wasting money.

 

[Serj]

What makes me smile is the fact that all of these posts are someone's opinion...not one of these posts are from people who tried a real product and it didn't work. Why should your opinion carry any weight? You did not spend any time or money or anything to come to this opinion. You just think so, and you are too afraid to find out what the real truth is. The fact is I have spent over 3 years studying this. I am continually supplied with survey results that claim that these kind of pills work. My frustration is that your opinion is based upon someone else's opinion, which is based upon someone else's opinion. It's like you belief in evolution because that's what you were taught. Find out what the truth is before you judge something!!!!!!!! And yes I am affiliated with the pills that I promote. And no it is not because I make huge bucks from it. In fact the company that I promote pays out allot less that other PE companies out there, I chose to promote them, because all of the VigRX surveys that were submited to me indicated that it worked, I only had 2 people(out of several hundred) say that it didn't....

 

[Kimahri]

Well, being any bigger...while a huge ego boost, really won't change my situation any, so, I'm content to admire the bigs ones. After hearing some of the problems the massive boys have....I think I'm good.

 

[lapdog2001]

Originally posted by Serj+Mar 27 2005, 05:46 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Serj &#064; Mar 27 2005, 05:46 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>What makes me smile is the fact that all of these posts are someone&#39;s opinion...not one of these posts are from people who tried a real product and it didn&#39;t work. Why should your opinion carry any weight? You did not spend any time or money or anything to come to this opinion. You just think so, and you are too afraid to find out what the real truth is.

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Why should your opinion carry any weight then?
I don&#39;t need to spend time or money on every fake product out there to know they are fake. Where are all the hair growth companies now? Gone. Where are all the bustline growth companies now? Gone. If the products worked, the companies would be alive and well and traded on the NY Stock Exchange&#33;

NOT ONE of the PE companies has produced ANY evidence that their product work. NONE

Originally posted by Serj@Mar 27 2005, 05:46 AM
The fact is I have spent over 3 years studying this. I am continually supplied with survey results that claim that these kind of pills work. My frustration is that your opinion is based upon someone else&#39;s opinion, which is based upon someone else&#39;s opinion.

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My opinion is based on the fact that none ot the PE companies has published any real results from any real research. No 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand opinions here.

Where are your &#39;survey results&#39;? Why aren&#39;t they published on your website?

Originally posted by Serj@Mar 27 2005, 05:46 AM
It&#39;s like you belief in evolution because that&#39;s what you were taught. Find out what the truth is before you judge something&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

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I believe in pain relievers because scientific research show they work. I believe that Rogaine and Proprecia work for some people, because the scientific research shows that they do.

<!--QuoteBegin-Serj@Mar 27 2005, 05:46 AM
And yes I am affiliated with the pills that I promote. And no it is not because I make huge bucks from it. In fact the company that I promote pays out allot less that other PE companies out there, I chose to promote them, because all of the VigRX surveys that were submited to me indicated that it worked, I only had 2 people(out of several hundred) say that it didn&#39;t....

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Again, where are those &#39;surveys&#39;? How were they conducted? Why aren&#39;t they published where people can read them?

They don&#39;t exist, that&#39;s why&#33;

I realize I&#39;m arguing with an idiot, but it is so much fun&#33; :evilgrin:
If these replies can keep just one guy from wasting his money on any of these phony products, I&#39;ll be happy.

LapDog