Eurozone Sovereign Debt Crisis part 2 - Ireland

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If we end up with a hard Brexit this will damage the Irish economy. An estimate of the damage is here and it is comparable to the 2008 crash. It is shocking that the EU is making a hard Brexit ever more likely and therefore sees Ireland and the people of Ireland as expendable.

In the event of a hard Brexit I think it is inevitable that the UK would work to support Ireland. The UK would have no problem with a special deal for Ireland.
 

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This is offensive rubbish.

As expected and of course only the UK has done anything bad to anyone else, can't find anyone who has done anything bad in the EU (several times)

"WHAT LOSS? They barley pay any tax and the few hundred job aren't noticeable"... Have a look at Google alone who paid £164million tax in Ireland and employs 7000+ staff.They show that the average pay for the 3000 permanent direct staff is 136,000 euro so no loss to the Irish economy if they go looking for cheaper staff/costs/premises to offset the new EU CT laws. That's not down to Brexit.
 

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As expected and of course only the UK has done anything bad to anyone else, can't find anyone who has done anything bad in the EU (several times)
Different to other do I talk very open about everything Germany has done...
I never would deny 30 million death Indians and claim that Britain would have done mainly good things to India.
I never would say, Germany should take back its colonies in Africa, because they can't handle their independency...

Usually I don't talk about "enpires of evil", don't compare them to the USSR...


So, if you respond with "as expected" in case of offensive, by a person who is so much full of hate, but refuse to call his posts offensive, it speaks more about you.
 

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Nigel farage says....Brexit may be worse than remaining in the EU.

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Well yes that is possible if the remainers get their way and fuck the whole thing up which they are trying to do, still as long as Soros earns another few billion and the lords show their muscle that will be ok
 

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Different to other do I talk very open about everything Germany has done...
I never would deny 30 million death Indians and claim that Britain would have done mainly good things to India.
I never would say, Germany should take back its colonies in Africa, because they can't handle their independency...

Usually I don't talk about "enpires of evil", don't compare them to the USSR...


So, if you respond with "as expected" in case of offensive, by a person who is so much full of hate, but refuse to call his posts offensive, it speaks more about you.

Oh don't worry I have seen your venom spilt before and I accept you keep expecting the UK to constantly apologise and self flagellate for the past rather than look to the problems being caused to countries by the EU project NOW.
 

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Oh don't worry I have seen your venom spilt before and I accept you keep expecting the UK to constantly apologise and self flagellate for the past rather than look to the problems being caused to countries by the EU project NOW.
You should try to have a more diverse view on my post and ask to whom and on what respons I "split my venom"... is it in reply to Dandelions, Joll's, or Drifterwoods' posts? I guess not. Is it on Jason's posts? You can bet on it. Is it on your posts? From time to time for sure.

If someone is so full of hate and national pride (to use an euphenism), I try to show him a different picture. If he tells bullshit about others, I will tell him that's bullshit. If he tells way to positive about one topic (for example about his nation and the history) I will tell him that there are negative sides as well.

I recommend you to compare my general replies to Jason's posts and Joll's posts.

But I guess you won't do it, you won't care. You will keep on liking ever hateful post of Jason and complain about every critique on Britain.
I don't care
 

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"may move"...."could move"...."considering".....see the Guardian hedges it's bets in it's project fear stories as usual.

You of course note that they have said for some time they will move production to China and the US from all EU sites because the WTO has said that all the state aid they get from the EU in ALL EU countries is illegal and the WTO has now made a final ruling to that effect. They have taken subsidies to the tune of £22billion against world trade rules which must now stop
 

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"may move"...."could move"...."considering".....see the Guardian hedges it's bets in it's project fear stories as usual.

You of course note that they have said for some time they will move production to China and the US from all EU sites because the WTO has said that all the state aid they get from the EU in ALL EU countries is illegal and the WTO has now made a final ruling to that effect. They have taken subsidies to the tune of £22billion against world trade rules which must now stop

Again, I say, have fun and enjoy. Do not be surprised if you have only few friends left since apparently you do not care.
 

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Well yes that is possible if the remainers get their way and fuck the whole thing
But my dear SE, it is leave people who are in charge of negotiating Brexit.

They cannot get a good deal because it is impossible to get a good deal. The only good option is to remain in the EU. They dare not admit this.


Public protest today demanding the Uk stay in the EU.
 

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But my dear SE, it is leave people who are in charge of negotiating Brexit.

They cannot get a good deal because it is impossible to get a good deal. The only good option is to remain in the EU. They dare not admit this.


Public protest today demanding the Uk stay in the EU.

The poor deluded remainers don't get it. The ship has sailed. Brexit is happening.

I think we are going to have a no-progress week with Brexit discussions. However this is all part of the choreography. In effect the UK is now saying "give us a decent deal or we go with no deal" - and the concept now is that the ball is in the EU's court. The idea that the UK must set out what is wanted is yesterday's idea. A little, local difficulty in the UK has prevented this approach, so we are now working with an approach, which is of course unusual, but this is where we are.

It is now a game of chicken. Either the EU blinks first or we get a no deal Brexit.
 

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Incidentally, as a little light relief, someone yesterday estimated the Uk government has shaved £30bn off its benefits bill through its program of austerity. So when anyone considers how balanced the Uk budget now is, what has happened is that the Uk government is richer by £30 bn a year at the expense of the poorest section of society. Talk about tax hikes. Talk about transferring money from poor to rich. talk about the depressing effect of removing £30 bn from the everyday economy, handing it to the rich and them investing it in securities and buying up houses. Which, of course, just adds even more to the housing bills of the poor. Tory economic policy has been a disaster.
 

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In effect the UK is now saying "give us a decent deal or we go with no deal"
How do you reach that conclusion? had parliament refused to pass the withdrawl bill then the Uk would have no credibility whatever in pretending it intended to leave the EU. As it is, it still has just enough for leave voters to give the tories the benefit of the doubt that they still might leave.
 

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But my dear SE, it is leave people who are in charge of negotiating Brexit.

They cannot get a good deal because it is impossible to get a good deal. The only good option is to remain in the EU. They dare not admit this.


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Yes it is indeed for leave to negotiate but the remain camp with Mr Soros is purposely throwing every spanner they can find into the works with no regard to the damage they will do.

Did you see the video of Junker saying that the EU will not impose a hard border in ROI under any circumstances by the way?