Ever feel like life would be less complicated if u didn't deal with dudes?

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"ALL", really? Did you clear that statement with headquarters first? Thats a pile of rubbish and you know it. Just like you, I can only be me and if that happens to be BI, you of all people are in no position to judge me.

By wishing my unhappiness you've revealed yourself to be the unsavory character I'd already deduced you to be (critical thinking). Lastly, Im agnostic and don't subscribe to any religion. Why don't you pull your head out of ass and dial down the hysterics before you continue making any more assumptions that fit into your cookie cutter world view.

Then maybe you shouldn't have written your original post the way you did, as it was littered with stereotypical language and gave an impression of you as being a whiny and closeted church queen, I can only go on the information you presented after all.

Anyone with common sense wouldn't have used the word "lifestyle" to describe being attracted to the same sex, unless you seriously believe that all gay men spend their times in saunas, going to gay clubs constantly, and getting facials/manicures. The term is extremely popular with the christian right and that's the reason why I assumed you were religious.

And the fact you started by saying the idea of two dudes living together doesn't make sense to you, it made you sound bigoted and ignorant.

My advice would be for you to quit whining and get on your bike.
 

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Really? I feel like my life would be easier if bisexuals like you didn't exist.
I am bisexual and feel that you ought to accept all aspects of one's sexuality rather than only the parts that seem 'socially acceptable'.

Also I find it interesting you are more concerned with what people think about your sexuality rather than developing a healthy sense of self. I have come across so many other black homosexual and bisexual males with your mentality and you guys contribute to the problem rather than the solution because it feeds into the paranoia that inflicts so many US black women when it comes to the "DL/closeted gay or bisexual black man". Additionally, your mindset says a lot about the ignorance you have about being a non-heterosexual male. Your lifestyle is how you live life on a daily basis, so being gay or bisexual is not a lifestyle unless your whole life gravitates around sexuality. Finally, you just sound unhappy so there is something you have to resolve internally rather than looking for external sources of blame.

You don't sound any different than a bigot holding a God Hate Gay's sign. Wishing bisexuals didn't exist? Do they owe you any explanations on how they chose to live their lives? Are they required to fall in line with your world view? Get the heck outta here.

Are you seriously making assumptions about my sense of self...seriously?

To your point about DL thing, if you believe for one second that dl men exist in great number's in EVERY race, you are under exposed. Unsafe sexual practices spreads aids (of any orientation)...not dl men.
I have no contention with the use of the word "lifestyle" Im not married to the word, nor am I aware of your interpretation of its use. You assume I am and therefore took offense. Lastly, don't put words in my mouth and stop projecting mis-directed assessments onto me that don't stick...who said anything about blame?
 

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I can see where the OP is going. I think cocks are amazing. I love to suck on them and watch and feel them grow. When they shoot, it is perfect afirmation.

That being said, I only want to settle down with a girl. My emotional attachment is strictly for females. The problem is I will never stop wanting to have a cock from time to time, which can be impossible in a relatinship.

I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. But yeah, I struggle with that.
 

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You don't sound any different than a bigot holding a God Hate Gay's sign. Wishing bisexuals didn't exist? Do they owe you any explanations on how they chose to live their lives? Are they required to fall in line with your world view? Get the heck outta here.

Are you seriously making assumptions about my sense of self...seriously?

To your point about DL thing, if you believe for one second that dl men exist in great number's in EVERY race, you are under exposed. Unsafe sexual practices spreads aids (of any orientation)...not dl men.
I have no contention with the use of the word "lifestyle" Im not married to the word, nor am I aware of your interpretation of its use. You assume I am and therefore took offense. Lastly, don't put words in my mouth and stop projecting mis-directed assessments onto me that don't stick...who said anything about blame?

You must suffer from a bad case of myopia. If I said "I wish bisexuals didn't exist" then I would be talking about myself as well. Since you don't understand reading I will repeat myself
"I feel like my life would be easier if bisexuals like you didn't exist. "
I stand by my words too...

Secondly, where did I say ANYTHING about STD/STIs in particular HIV/AIDS? Here is what I said:
I have come across so many other black homosexual and bisexual males with your mentality and you guys contribute to the problem rather than the solution because it feeds into the paranoia that inflicts so many US black women when it comes to the "DL/closeted gay or bisexual black man". Additionally, your mindset says a lot about the ignorance you have about being a non-heterosexual male.
If you can draw STIs from paranoia, OK. Houston, we have a big problem, failure to launch...

Uh duh, common sense tells anybody with discerning abilities that the "DL" phenomenon isn't limited to just blacks. However, that is neither here nor there when I am talking about you...

Putting words in your mouth, HA! I haven't put a word in your mouth, yet. But it seems like you like to put plenty in mine. Meanwhile, you said enough about where your head is about your sexuality and your own insecurities...
 

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I'm not even sure what the point of making this thread is. You don't see how living with another man could work...mmmm k


50 years ago people couldn't see how living interacially with a black person could work. I'm still lost on the damn point here!

Then it wasn't meant for you.

So what is your issue then? The fact that people couldn't understand interracial co-habitation back then and now its not a big deal?
Is your issue with people who lynched blacks?
Created racist legislation?
Disowned anyone who married a black person?
Profiled black men in the streets/stores/library?
Did everything in their power to keep black's and white's separate?

Or was it just with people, who took none of those actions, lived their lives but yet couldn't understand the idea of interracial relationship? Which is it?
 

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seriously.

Some dudes like dudes, and choose to live with other dudes. what is wrong with that on any level? what is even hard to understand about that? Haven't we moved past this?

Maybe you can't relate because you identify as 80% straight. Others here no doubt identify as 80% gay and probably can't imagine being intimate and living with a woman.

who said anything was wrong with it??
 

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If it makes me feel any better I can't see myself living under the same roof with either sex at the moment.

I could and do have deep emotional and physical attachments with both sexes but I need my own space.

x2!

Life is less complicated living single and having friends/lovers. But then you go home and they do, too! Regardless of gender. :)
 

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LGX basically the OP is still stuck in a traditional, closed off mindset and is (amazingly) surprised why he's upset. He is fundamentally self-loathing and is looking for co-signers that share his negative, rigid views on sexuality and gender norms. That's it in a nutshell.

You haven't a clue about you spew. Not a clue. But I'm sure your feeling proud of yourself for attacking/suppressing anyone who would dare to voice feelings that don't align with your views.
 

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You haven't a clue about you spew. Not a clue. But I'm sure your feeling proud of yourself for attacking/suppressing anyone who would dare to voice feelings that don't align with your views.

What did you expect mate? Seriously, if you're going to come on and air your insecurities to all and sundry and make a few ignorant comments along the way, are you surprised someone would react like this?
 

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You must suffer from a bad case of myopia. If I said "I wish bisexuals didn't exist" then I would be talking about myself as well. Since you don't understand reading I will repeat myself I stand by my words too...

And why wouldn't you?:smile: And thanks for the diagnosis Doc, but I/we aren't going anywhere.

Secondly, where did I say ANYTHING about STD/STIs in particular HIV/AIDS? Here is what I said: If you can draw STIs from paranoia, OK. Houston, we have a big problem, failure to launch...

Uh duh, common sense tells anybody with discerning abilities that the "DL" phenomenon isn't limited to just blacks. However, that is neither here nor there when I am talking about you...

Nice, I cracked a smile on that one. Ahh I see...so your reasoning for making this a racial issue and singling out the black community was what again? I mean I could be exclusively be date white girls but that's neither here nor there and you know me well enough to have already deduced that. Not to to mention that we both know that wherever the DL discussion is taking place, aids will not be far behind but I'll let you have that one pimp. You win, you never brought up aids just 'paranoia'. Got it.

Putting words in your mouth, HA! I haven't put a word in your mouth, yet. But it seems like you like to put plenty in mine. Meanwhile, you said enough about where your head is about your sexuality and your own insecurities...

Yeah, those pesky insecurities....who has those? I know, Im a horrible person. I'll try to do better.
 

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If it makes me feel any better I can't see myself living under the same roof with either sex at the moment.

I could and do have deep emotional and physical attachments with both sexes but I need my own space.

Ha ha...I think about that as well. I sooooo need my space. The fact that my lady is outta state works well for me.
 
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Then maybe you shouldn't have written your original post the way you did, as it was littered with stereotypical language and gave an impression of you as being a whiny and closeted church queen, I can only go on the information you presented after all.

Anyone with common sense wouldn't have used the word "lifestyle" to describe being attracted to the same sex, unless you seriously believe that all gay men spend their times in saunas, going to gay clubs constantly, and getting facials/manicures. The term is extremely popular with the christian right and that's the reason why I assumed you were religious.

And the fact you started by saying the idea of two dudes living together doesn't make sense to you, it made you sound bigoted and ignorant.

My advice would be for you to quit whining and get on your bike.

No. You projected your preconceived notions onto me. Why would you assume that all 7 billion people in this world would interpret the use of the word "lifestyle" in this context the way YOU do? I think that word is public domain when it comes to the gay issue and not skewed towards the christian right at all.

My advice to you would be to pull your finger off the trigger and stop behaving as if anyone who is not the place you happen to be doesn't have a right to own and express their feelings. So you can take your advice to me, roll it up in a tight cone and shove it up your ass as deep as you can get it.
 
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Oprime - I think what most of the members are trying to point out is that you said, "the idea of two dudes living together doesn't make sense to me," instead of something like, "I can't see myself living together with another dude." There is a difference. The way you word things is very important, and especially so on the internet, where communication is achieved through nothing more than text and misinterpretations can arise. Although, more often than not, it gives you a chance to discuss things further and get to know people that way.

I'm guessing that some members are offended by the fact that it appears that you don't "approve" of two men living together, whereas I think you simply don't want to live with another man. And that's fine. Like I said, there are other members on this very website who may look at another man as a sex toy for the night and nothing more. No dates, no relationships, no commitment or feelings. Just pleasure.

And then there's the point of calling it a lifestyle... Well, come on, your love life is at least part of your lifestyle. I didn't think that was a big deal.
 

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What did you expect mate? Seriously, if you're going to come on and air your insecurities to all and sundry and make a few ignorant comments along the way, are you surprised someone would react like this?

Clearly you don't speak for everyone who has bothered to opine in this thread. Subjectivity is a mutha...

And yeah, how dare I have insecurities...but we both now that wasn't what you were yapping about.
 

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Oprime - I think what most of the members are trying to point out is that you said, "the idea of two dudes living together doesn't make sense to me," instead of something like, "I can't see myself living together with another dude." There is a difference. The way you word things is very important, and especially so on the internet, where communication is achieved through nothing more than text and misinterpretations can arise. Although, more often than not, it gives you a chance to discuss things further and get to know people that way.

I'm guessing that some members are offended by the fact that it appears that you don't "approve" of two men living together, whereas I think you simply don't want to live with another man. And that's fine. Like I said, there are other members on this very website who may look at another man as a sex toy for the night and nothing more. No dates, no relationships, no commitment or feelings. Just pleasure.

And then there's the point of calling it a lifestyle... Well, come on, your love life is at least part of your lifestyle. I didn't think that was a big deal.

I have no problem owning that. It's all about delivery. Kinda like how YOU choose to get that point across to me. I don't have a problem with two dudes living together. I think people should be able to do whatever they what, that doesn't mean I would, be default, understand it (which i don't).
 

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i love this topic, as a gay guy, i love the dudes, but it does not mean that I dont want to be bette davis either! having said that, I would not try and live a lie to myself or any girl if I had inclinations for a dude. Nor would I settle (although I have) for living with a dude if I was having my chickies on the side (I dont). That would be using him.
there is NO switch to turn off or on, you either "do or do not, there is no try"...yoda.
get your priorities str8, devotion to wife and kids or cut it off.
doesnt sound like you got the balls to handle a gay life anyway.
now if your question was "how do I balance my bi life style?" I would have offered up a different approach to it. very simple young but muscular grasshopper
 

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And why wouldn't you?:smile: And thanks for the diagnosis Doc, but I/we aren't going anywhere.



Nice, I cracked a smile on that one. Ahh I see...so your reasoning for making this a racial issue and singling out the black community was what again? I mean I could be exclusively be date white girls but that's neither here nor there and you know me well enough to have already deduced that. Not to to mention that we both know that wherever the DL discussion is taking place, aids will not be far behind but I'll let you have that one pimp. You win, you never brought up aids just 'paranoia'. Got it.



Yeah, those pesky insecurities....who has those? I know, Im a horrible person. I'll try to do better.

That's cute. You can create a circular discussion if you want to, but this isn't going down. It is obvious I hit a sore spot, otherwise you would have not said a word. Dude, I don't care, what date. I pointed out black women because you are black, so regardless if you date Martians exclusively it doesn't change the point what you are doing is inadvertently doing harm to whom/whatever you date. Hiding your sexuality shows you are ashamed, so....

Hit dogs ALWAYS hollar, 'RUFF'!
 
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Ha ha...I think about that as well. I sooooo need my space. The fact that my lady is outta state works well for me.


Just checked your gallery and you should have no shortage of masculine and feminine attention.

Just sayin'. :wink::biggrin1: