Every GOP Debt Plan Leaves Us With More Debt

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  1. sargon20

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    It's not as if we didn't already know but many still actually believe the GOP lies. In politics you never have to prove your point you just count on one ever holding you accountable for it.
    The four remaining GOP candidates have a simple and straightforward plan for the direction of our federal debt. Up. Way up.............

    The Big Deficit Lie: Every GOP Debt Plan Leaves Us With More Debt

     
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    well the plus side is that the fed has turned 1/3 of the new debt into cash by buying it up, and I expect it will continue. Apparently this has correlated with rises in the gold price and stocks, which I suppose means the rich are taking that money and squirreling it away.
     
  3. monel

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    Yes but under their plans, as cliched as it may sound, the rich will get richer and this will benefit all of us because we like to look at the "beautiful people" and live vicariously through them. (I so hope if Romney loses he gets a reality show).
     
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    Have you not been on this planet the past 3 years? This douche in office want's more debt and has created more than any in history. Why was his only budget in 3 years last year voted down 97-0? Even the robots voted it as a joke!...wait for it, wait for it...the excuse and you're going to blame....

    16% unemployment, millions looking to save their homes...and this douche has played more than 90 rounds of golf...weekly parties with musicians and hollowood actors costing taxpayers Millions each event.
    When he leaves off he'll be a multi millionaire....Oh wait that was a book sale:wink:.
     
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    You wouldn't expect any debt plan worked out by Wall Street bankers to leave you with less debt would you?
     
  6. Phil Ayesho

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    You are so transparently racist.

    Bush and a GOP congress tripled the US debt. AND ran the economy right down the shitter...
    BUSH gave the trillion dollar bailout-
    Reagan, Bush I and Bush II are responsible for 80% of the current US deficit. EACH of them pushed the deficit dramatically higher, without the slightest murmur from the GOP over the deficits they were racking up.

    Obama has raised the deficit only a FRACTION as much as Bush did- at a time when the US economy NEEDS the government to pump money into the system to keep it from dying.

    FDR already proved that when the National Economy is failing, the ONLY way out is thru government spending. ( great depression was caused by Austerity measures after the stock market collapse- it was alleviated slightly by FDRs new deal policies, and then GOP pressure to deal with deficits caused the recovery to stagnate... and the depression only really ended when the US committed to MASSIVE SPENDING for WWII- debts that we paid of handily with the improved industries created thru government spending )


    Oh, and, during TWO wars, that Bush paid for with DEFICIT borrowing, and never even put the bill on the budget, No president vacationed more than Bush.
    Oh, and Bush spent a trillion dollars and in 7 years did NOT get Bin Laden, the entire object of those wars.

    Americans losing their homes is because of the BUSH economic catastrophe, and Obama is actually trying to pas legislation to offer them relief. Despite GOP attempts to PREVENT that relief.



    Shit, everything you complain of is entirely attributable to BUSH and his GOP congress. From the foreclosure crisis, to the deficit... its ALL shit that went down BEOFRE Obama was even elected.

    And you thinks its Obama?!
    somebody gets his "information" only from FOX....

    But hey, I don't blame you... science has shown that conservatives are far less bright than other people... its not your fault you're too stupid to comprehend cause and effect.
    too stupid to understand how a calendar works...
     
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    And then there are transparent idiots. Hold the line no matter what it costs.
     
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    Drive the bus off the cliff, then hand the black man the keys and blame the new driver.
     
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    I really don't see race as an issue here. But some want to go down that road.
     
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    I thought it probably a historical analogy as what we are concerned with here is more the fight between rich and poor....but since you mention it no doubt black people in the US still correlate well with poor.
     
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    And the good thing about it is, as soon as you can look at beautyful and ritch people you doesnt even need food or something to drink and will instantly stop freasing.
     
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    There's it is...the typical insult again by you and your party! Whoever criticizes this president is a raciest! I'm not even going to read your response it doesn't deserve my attention...This is coming from the party that CREATED RACISM.






     
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    That's President "douche" and you may as well get used to it because he's going to be around for another four years. Your party's field of challangers is the most pathetic bunch of B-listers I have ever seen begging to be taken seriously in politics. You should be embarrassed for your GOP.
     
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    yeah calling that guy a racist was totally uncalled for.

    obama is a war monger just like the rest of them! just think of all the americans he has sent to die for "your freedoms" !!!! what a load of shit! he should be impeached
     
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    The greedy oil perverts would be just as pissed if it was a woman fixing dubya's mess.
     
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    What do you think would be grounds for impeachment?
     
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    The question is where have you been the last decade as Bush and Friends ran the country over the cliff? Jerking off to FoxFauxFixedNews? :wank:And can you read? You quoted my quote about the GOP then went on a tirade about Obama? The debt remains a GOP birthright.

    Here's one easy chart you can even understand. Wait probably not.

    Obama’s and Bush’s effects on the deficit in one graph
     
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    Hahaha! Instead of discussing who and how to get out of our debt crisis, we point at each side of the aisle and say "You caused more debt than we did!" "No! You caused more debt than we did!!!". Meanwhile we ignore the fact that both sides caused oppressive national debt, inflation, and war.

    "You killed more people than we did!! So we are better!" "No, you killed more people than we did, so we are better!"

    It's inane, but many here are so attached to party lines they cannot fathom that their flavor of government is still bad government.


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    Both sides? You ignore who and what has been the main driving force behind the tax cuts (Bush et al) which account for big percentage of the debt. And how can we forget the 'pledge' that all Republican candidates must sign? And the Iraq War (the $3 trillion war) would not have happened had The Supreme's knighted Al Gore president.

    Did the dems roll over and play dead? Yes but it would not have happened had we had a semi-educated electorate. Just like moderate Republicans are rolling over now as the Tea Party wackos run the country further back in time.
     
  20. Phil Ayesho

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    What the heck does this mean?

    The transparent idiots who want to hold the line to the Bush/GOP economic policies that CAUSED the catastrophe?


    Or the transparent idiots who want to boost government stimulus to rebuild the infrastructure that 30 years of GOP policies have allowed to deteriorate and drag the US to second world status in terms of competitiveness?


    Once more... Learn from History by paying attention to what actually happened.

    FDR's new deal policies built the road, rail, water and power systems that MADE the US the most modern nation on earth at that time.
    It was this infrastructure, Already in place, that Enabled US industry to rise to meet the productive challenges of WWII, and that carried us On to be the worlds dominant military and economic power in the post war era.

    Its NOT a partisan issue, either.

    Eisenhower's interstate highway project was the largest government jobs bill in history... a huge expense in government spending that he could ONLY get passed by claiming it was a national Defense initiative.

    In retrospect, the interstate highway system is known to have tripled the GNP of the US.

    TRIPLED US productivity.

    The answer is pretty basic math.

    When your debts pile up- that is NOT the time to ask your boss to pay you LESS.
    Sure, you cut what expenses you can... but you can't cut out food... you can't cut medicine you need.

    When your debts are high, you absolutely do NOT CUT REVENUE....
    you RAISE them, even if it means having to get a second job or work a second shift.

    The rich have had a nice long and low cost ride... time for them to step up and show some solidarity with their nation.

    More Warren Buffets, and fewer David Kocks
     
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