Every Straight Man should have a close Gay Friend

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by WatchStr8Sex, Feb 22, 2010.

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The world would be better if Str8 guys had a close gay friend

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  1. WatchStr8Sex

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    It is my humble opinion that every straight man should have a close gay friend - not sexual nor any chance of becoming sexual.

    If every straight guy had a gay friend, it is my belief there would be much less discrimination and violence towards those who identify as gay.

    DISCUSS....
     
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    If every straight guy had a gay friend, it is my belief there would be much less discrimination and violence towards those who identify as gay.

    Depends on what the definition is on "close", though. I think that straight and gay men can be friends...BUT the men have to know the boundaries so that the friendship doesn't get ruined. I don't really think that some straight men would care about less discrimination against and being violent towards gay men.

    Again, if you are a friend...it probably won't matter what gender you like...it matters about respect. If you don't respect each other, you don't have a friendship.
     
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    I agree, both guys have to know that the sexual boundary cannot be crossed. I find it abhorrent that there are gay guys out there who feel the need to try and "turn" a straight guy. As you astutely point out, this sort of friendship and closeness comes from mutual respect - which is the basis of any true friendship if you think about it.

    I just think that straight guys and gay guys can learn from each other and break down stereotypical rĂ´les and behavioural stereotypes and the world would be a better place.
     
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    This seems to be a blind question.

    Do we say that everyone has male and female friends... so that we don't have sexism?

    Do we say that everyone has a black, latino, asian, etc friend... so that we don't have racism?

    Do we say that everyone has a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Communist, Socialist, Libertarian, etc.... so that we don't have differences in politics?


    What if a "homophobe" befriends a gay guy and the gay guy does something to concrete/confirm the phobia?

    This idea makes no sense in my opinion.
     
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    My point is limited to friendships between straight and gay men. The scope of your argument goes well beyond the intent of this thread and is probably best debated elsewhere.

    Perhaps we should narrow the selection process to rational individuals. I suspect if the "homophobe" you mention was a reasonable man and the relationship was maintained as purely platonic, then I doubt your above scenario would arise unless someone broke the rules.
     
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    that's like saying there'd be less discrimination of every *insert race here* had a *insert different race here*

    not to be a dick, but what you're saying is an obvious truth, since you really can't be racist/sexist/homophobic/etc if you're close friends with someone from that category. really no point in mentioning it since it's just not likely
     
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    i dont have any gay friends... i dont know any gay guys
     
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    Agree. But I have seen almost all of my straight friends' penises, and I gave them hand job. :biggrin1:
     
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    doing my bit -- all my best buds are straight
     
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    Dude, you probably do but they are just not out. I think most str8 guys. If every guy who is gay or bi had the balls to come out I seriously think homophobia would evaporate. I was on a business trip in San Fran with a str8 guy who was a close friend from work. I shared an office with him and we ate lunch together nearly every day. While we were sitting there having dinner at Fisherman's Wharf he said "You know everyone in here probably thinks we are a couple of queers on a date" and laughed.

    I started to come out to him right there...but just didn't have the balls to do it.
     
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    Everybody knows somebody gay. They just might not know it. It's not obvious in any way with me so alot of people who I have brief contact with never know. You just don't introduce yourself as gay when you meet somebody. It would be odd. I guess since I do all the normal guy stuff most of my friends are straight. I'm 24 so people in my age range really don't seem to care. My best friends are straight guys and I'm sure some of them would tell you their best friends is gay. I don't think they should or shouldn't be friends with a gay guy. they're just being friends with somebody with similar interests who they respect and admire on some level. same as they are with anybody else. I only have like 4 friends who are gay that I associate with much. one of them I was friends with before either of us were out so sexuality didn't have any role in that. just my experience. FWIW i didn't vote. there should be an "it's an arbitrary feature and doesn't matter" option.
     
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    Just the obvious benefits my friends have pointed out:
    1. I tell them when they look like crap, can't pull off a "look" or what is working.
    2. Women think they are more sensitive & secure
    3. Wingman! I can easily get them into even a group of women, straight dudes would be brickwalled by
    4. "What the hell do I get her for ..."
    5. I'm a nice Guy, who isn't dogging after your gf

    These are just related the being gay, of course there are millions of reasons I'm a good friend that have nothing to do with being gay.
     
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    And every straight woman should have a gay male friend as well. I have this one good friend who is gay. He's very honest and has been great for my self confidence and self esteem. He can offer me the male perspective when I don't understand something a guy said / did.

    Above all, I don't have to worry about him trying to get into my pants like some of my male friends who do. Now that I'm single, I've a few men interested in me. :/
     
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    That's a good one I suppose.
     
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    yea... im open to it.. i dont judge based on sexuallity... but idk, if any of my friends are..
     
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    well said
    I don't actually have any friends like this though.
    Perhaps I'm intimidating in person...
     
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    I don't think it matters. The first thing a homophobe would then say when called to the mat is "Nuh-uh! My best friend is GAY!"
     
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