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1. I am aware of what a revolution is. But the fact is that it was not that sudden. It had been coming for years. You are simply talking of the collapse itself....even then, the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union certainly didn't fall that quickly in some bloodless revolution.
In 1989, many Eastern Europeans, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Albania, the Soviet Union, East Germany, Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria all overthrew their governments.
Last i checked, Gorbachev had been reforming Russia for awhile...before some pro-soviets began plotting a coup.
it took a full years from when the wall fell in Germany to the eventual dissolution of the Warsaw PAct in full in 1991.
You cannot just discount the solidarity movements and all the other factors. That is extreme ignorance
you stated - "The Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact fell with not one shot fired and not one life lost. That is the kind of revolution that says to the world what the United States and it's allies stand for."
if that was the case then that should have just happened in the 50s...ah well, la dee da, socialism was fun, boom collapse.
That "revolution" was nearly a half century of warfare in a variety of ways, economic, political, military.
Sorry, totally off base.
2. I haven't forgotten the number of Iraqi dead. However the vast majority were not killed by Americans. They are killing each other in sectarian violence. If they were able to hash out their differences without violence, there would be far less.
Millions have died in civil wars. That is how things change, that is how dictatorships are overthrown. Our birth was a violent founding of vicious partisanship vs. loyalists that went on for 8 years costing hundreds of thousands of lives...then we had a civil war for another 5 that cost millions.
That's life. That is what happens. All free countries are born in and of violence. Wherever they are.
They are not lab mice...they are people, and sometimes people get stuck in war. War began before Bush, and wont end with Bush.
there are approximately 27 major wars and conflicts going on in the world right now. Alot of people suffer all around the globe, and that is not the fault of the US.
I think you have a serious problem between distinguishing a sad reality, and me being happy about it.
In fact, your pathetic insult that i seem to believe that:
"They do not count. Their tears and loss are just 'the sad reality of war'. You don't sound very sad at all. In fact you sound happy."
Is just a pathetic excuse for you since your logic cannot differentiate with killing to be cruel and sadistic and deliberate, and the sad, inescapable fact of war and conflict on this planet.
Please show me where i "sound happy" that people are dying. I'd like you to point that despicable slander out to me.
You keep ignoring the fact that the US is responsible for untold suffering in Iraq. And you dismiss it as 'war is sad'. Unbelievable. And even worst you say we didn't kill them. They would be ALIVE if we didn't break Iraq. Shit happens I guess huh?
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