Favorite sports team(s)?

agnslz

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Of course, the Yankees are the only team that spends an outrageous sum on its players. :rolleyes:
No, they're not. But the point is, your assertion that they can buy a World Series title at will is proven wrong since they hadn't won one for almost a decade until this year. Or did they just decide not to win a title from 2001 to 2008?:rolleyes:
 

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Baseball- Yankees, Pirates, Padres, Dodgers (any team other than Red Sox)

Football- Giants, Jets (and I'll allow the Chargers and Steelers and Bears as my next teams) (any team other than the Patriots)


Hockey- Rangers, Penguins, Maple Leafs


Basketball- Knicks
 

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No, they're not. But the point is, your assertion that they can buy a World Series title at will is proven wrong since they hadn't won one for almost a decade until this year. Or did they just decide not to win a title from 2001 to 2008?:rolleyes:

Look, smarty pants, the point remains....the previous winners during that decade included Boston twice, Philly once, Angels, Diamondbacks (who had to dismantle their team because they were up to their eyeballs in deferred payroll)....money has been ruining baseball for the last 15 or so years.:rolleyes:
 

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And also, my point was that rooting for the Yankees is easy. THAT point remains too.

No, rooting for the Yankees is not easy. Leastwise, not easy in the sense in which you desire to make it. I have been a Yankees fan from the start, even through their lean seasons, where divisional titles escaped them, even with their insane payroll.

Sure there are some who take the easy way and support whatever team is currently at the lead; yet, there are many of us who will support our team as fans, no matter how poorly they are doing.

The fans who support the Yankees now, consist mainly of 3 primary groups.

1)Long time(came to it as a teen or young adult)/life time fans(from the firrst game seen). This group never abandons the Yankees under any circumstances. We complain about bad players, carp about the owners and the bad management; but, at the end of the day, even if the Yankees lose 14-0, against let's say, The Royals, we will support our guys.

2)New fans, who may become life time fans- these consist of young and old just discovering baseball. There are a lot of older persons who upon retirement, widowhood or illness, sort of discover baseball. They knew it existed before, just never invested much time or thought to it. Now with added time on their hands, or through a new relationship or whatever, they watch and listen to the games and opt for a team- usually whichever one is local. In New York this means a split between Mets and Yankees. Some of these people will stay with baseball and move into group 1. Others will tire of baseball, find other interests as their life goes to its next phase. (remember this group discovered baseball due to life changes)

3)The group which you allude to. Yes, there are those who cling to the winning team, and for now (season just ended) this means the Yankees. Many of these 'supporters' or 'fans' will vanish if the Yankees slide off the contention for playoffs radar. You can see this sort of fan on streets all over the country. When the Red Sox won, sales of Red Sox gear shot upwards as did their 'fan' base. Suddenly everybody had to be a Red Sox fan, including lifelong New Yorkers who didn't really give a hoot about baseball, just wanted to attach to the winners. Same thing happened during Atlanta's winning years. It happens with all the sports. When the Patriots did well, people jumped on their parade route, now, as they have a difficult season, less people are interested in them. All sports have fly by night fans. Think of all those Chicago Bulls fans during their winning years- where are those people now? Not by annd large with the Bulls, as the Bulls are no longer at the top.


As a lifelong Yankee fan, I have railed against the pay given to players and would love it if there were a salary cap put in place. It would even up all teams chances, and place the weight of championship on the shoulders of all players and the managers.

Keep in mind, many of the Yankees World Series Victories back in the 1900s were before the salary had shot through the roof. Back then, it was a better pay than the average person might get; most players salaries were,; but, it was not in the multi-figure stratosphere it currently is. In the 30s, 40s, 50s and at least the early part of the 60s, baseball and wins was based on skill. Fans were attracted by the skill and a true team loyalty.
 

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Northland, I guess my definition of "lean years" is different from your definition. You being 50, means you were born 1959. You've seen MANY MANY Yankees World Series, playoff apearences, winning seasons, etc. I was born in 1984, too late to remember the first Padres pennant run. I didn't see a Padres playoff game until I was 12-1996. Didn't see the Padres in the World Series until I was 14. It's been losing season after losing season after losing season. Every time the Padres bring someone out of their farm system, as soon as theyre eligible for free agency- BOOM- they're off to another team, and then the cycle begins again. So, yes, relatively speaking it is easy to be Yankees fan. Have a bad year? That's ok. There really IS next year. For Padres fans (and fans of most other MLB teams), you're looking at several more years of ineptitude before contending again. They can't just go out on the market and buy free agents left and right.