The angry masses have no time to bother with actually following what's going on in Washington but still show up on Election Day angry and eager to make the wrong choices every time. You think illegals are taking your job? Played like a fool.
Since Reagan conservatism hit town the matra has been "fuck you" if you're not rich. We have nothing for you except abortion bills and crime bills or the old favorite defense bills. You should expect nothing from the state. And now they're mad the Party did exactly what they preached?
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The FBI Director is full of Crap, pardon my French. He deliberately made his announcement, a few weeks before the election when Clinton was 12 points ahead in the poles. Within 2 days she went from 12 points ahead to dead even with Trump. When the FBI, says they expect to charge a person, with something even those on the fence ran for cover. He did exactly what we intended to do, cause a panic in favor of his Party. Then wait and say April Fools, nothing is going to happen,
Just as police are not allowed to be political on their jobs, were campaign buttons, etc, their should be an investigation to see if he used his office and position to interfere with the political process
Just as police are not allowed to be political on their jobs, were campaign buttons, etc, their should be an investigation to see if he used his office and position to interfere with the political process
Phil Ayesho
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You're an imbecile to think so.
And, unfortunately, you'll get to find out just how wrong you.
Phil Ayesho
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Because she thought she could convince Americans to vote agasint vulgarity and indecency and stupidity.
Because she had already elucidated her PLATFROM- which was progressive.
And Because she counted on the folks who wanted the more progressive of the two potentially winning parties to ALREADY understand where their interests lie.
And the sad, pathetic truth is that folks like you will NOT learn- and will NOT recognize your own culpability in this disaster.
You'll go right on blaming the CANDIDATE that was NOMINATED. You'll go right on blaming her campaign, or the fact that the DNC preferred her over Bernie.... you'll go right on refusing to accept that the Liberal party LOST by the exact margin that decided to vote third party.
You'll all go on absolving yourselves of believing stupid lies and be swayed by innuendo...you'll go on excusing yourselves for spreading malaise and gossip and trash talking YOUR OWN CANDIDATE....
You'll convince yourselves that you were misled by the press saying she had it the bag BECAUSE Trump was such an odious monster.... and therefore were not reponsible for the fact that you actively encourage folks to defect to the pointlessness of third party 'protest' votes... that enabled that monster to take power.
You'll keep right on equivocating... but the results are unequivocal.
YOU fucks did not back the progressives coalition. You BROKE UP the progressive coalition- just enough to ensure the exact opposite of what you claimed you wanted.
And Guess what?
History proves that Protest votes do NOT influence your party to move toward your wishes.
When the liberals lose to the conservatives, the liberal party MODERATES toward the middle.
It happens every time. So Stupid fucks like Susan Sarandon- while well meaning- are idiots to imagine that defecting to some fringe third party dipshit to 'send a message' to the Party establishment NEVER achieve their aims- they achieve the opposite.
This election was NOT THE FUCKING SAME as PRIOR contests between conservatives and liberals.
Since the GOP disaster of 2008- the GOP has been subverted by their own extremist base and forced to take the position of total obstruction and promises to BURN DOWN THE HOUSE if they should get back into power.
PROGRESSIVES failure to vote in 2010 enabled the GOP to gerrymander districts to ensure their re-election despite their unpopularity. Making it nearly impossible for the DEMS to take back the house or the senate.
They nominated the petty, ignorant fucktard who will place NO MORAL or INTELLECTUAL consideration whatsoever on rubber stamping whatever catastrophic bill the GOP house and senate place in front of him.
They have been DISINFORMING Conservatives for 8 years- demonizing every liberal achievement- and the ONLY thing that held them in check was the Liberal in the whitehouse.
And I don't fucking care if the DNC nominated a FUCKING ROOMBA for president. It was OUR FUCKING DUTY TO SUPPORT OUR FUCKING PARTY AND OUR FUCKING AGENDA, REGARDLESS.
The hate filled morons on the RIGHT understood their duty to support their cesspool of a candidate... and that's how they FUCKING won.
And the coming months will be chock full of exculpatory screeds by liberal sellouts whining about how messaging could have been better, the candidate could have been better, the economy... trade agreements and more...
But none of them are gonna look in the fiucking mirror and acknowledge that the problem was in party unity... because progressives like you want a MESSIAH- and if you can't have a messiah you pitch an infantile fit, take your ball and go home in a huff.
Fuck all of you Hillary haters. Your year long whiney bitch-fest and inability to comprehend how to WIN POLITICAL POWER just destroyed everything. It was YOUR inability to understand how CRITICAL this election really was to KEEPING momentum moving toward the left. Your WIDELY VOICED lack of enthusiasm and carping about the "system" that just handed power to the GOP when that party was LEAST capable of responsibly governing.
This COULD have been the election that destroyed the obstructionist and hate filled base of the GOP.
But thanks to you "progressives" and your whispering campaign of dissatisfaction with the ONLY viable liberal candidate- the GOP will absolutely wreck every progressive policy that was passed since FDR.
And if you were REALLY progressives... you'ld be out there making AMMENDS for your sins by blocking the 101- and participating in OTHER protests to make it clear to the GOP that they had better NOT immediately undo healthcare, civil rights, Social Security, and Abortion rights.
Read some fucking history- this is what it looks like when nations start to collapse into civil unrest and economic ruin.
Go ahead- and blame Hillary... But I am pretty fucking certain that SHE voted a straight ticket for the democrats.
SHE was dedicated enough to go thru what she had to go thru to TRY and do the job.
The party isn't Hillary. WE ARE.
SHE was out there every fucking day on the stump- TRYING to explain the progressive agenda- ( when she wasn't trying to defend herself agasint baseless rumors )
And the fucks calling themselves 'progressives' were out there every fucking day tearing her down.
Doing exactly what the GOP had programmed them to do... like virus infected bots.
This is the fault of every single poster who had to say shit about Hillary in the midst of a campaign against DARKNESS.
You just handed the ring back to Sauron.
You don't optimally drive the electorate to get out the vote by voting against something... they need something to vote for to have the biggest turnout. Hillary's initial platform included next to nothing but maintaining the status quo. The only ideas she had that actually turned people on enough to get out to the polls and vote for her were watered down ideas taken from Bernie's platform... that wasn't lost on the electorate and THAT'S why we had a low fucking turnout.
The progressives came out and voted for Hillary... who didn't come out and vote for Hillary was her fucking liberal base. Black turnout was down...way down... down so far that she lost. But you will blame progressives because you are a progressive hater and after you blame progressives you blame third parties and then you will pat yourself on the back with a "job well done" and go back to your decrepit and ramshackle high horse. Not an ounce of introspection and just blaming every but the ONE group who actually had the power the entire time and they ran the whole fucking show from start to finish... the partisan Democrats.
I'm getting sick and tired of you throwing around this bullshit meme... PROVE IT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP. Give me data and prove your assertion that the party that got .9% of the vote was the reason for Hillary's loss.
That said, I'm sure you won't mind if I present evidence that proves you wrong before you even begin right? Not only are you wrong but the opposite of your crippled hypothesis holds true when you look at the DATA. Math doesn't lie.
Colorado: Clinton won by 2.2 percent. Voters also gave 4.9 percent to Johnson, 1.2 percent to Stein, 1 percent to McMullin, and nearly 1 percent more to a collection of third-tier candidates.- THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+9 electoral votes for Clinton
Florida: Trump eked out a win by just 1.4 percent here. Stein got only .7 percent.- INCONCLUSIVE
Maine: Clinton won this by three percentage points, and Johnson collected 5.1 percent. - THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+4 electoral votes for Clinton
Michigan: Trump won this ordinarily blue state by about .3 percent, and Stein got 1.1 percent, so Democrats who feel all Green votes are rightfully theirs are going to be seething at her over this one. Meanwhile, Johnson got 3.6 percent. - THRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS TRUMP
+16 electoral votes for Trump
Minnesota: Clinton won by 1.4 percent. McMullin got 1.8 percent. Johnson got 3.4 percent and Stein got 1.3 - THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+10 electoral votes for Clinton
Nevada: Clinton won by 2.4 percent; Johnson got 3.3 percent. - THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+6 electoral votes for Clinton
New Hampshire: Another narrow Clinton win—just a tenth of a percentage point—and another relatively strong showing for Johnson, who collected 4.1 percent. - THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+4 electoral votes for Clinton
New Mexico: Clinton won this handily, by 8.3 percent. But Johnson, got 9.3 percent. - THIRD PARTY TIPPED VOTE TOWARDS CLINTON
+7 electoral votes for Clinton
Pennsylvania: Trump won by about 1.1 percent. Stein's .8 percent isn't enough to cover that spread; Johnson's 2.4 percent is.- WITHOUT VOTES FOR JOHNSON, CLINTON'S LOSS WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE
Virginia: Clinton won by 4.7 percent. Johnson, McMullin, and Stein got 3, 1.6, and .7 percent, respectively. So the third-party candidates covered the spread if you include the Green, but the two candidates who were more likely to pull from Trump didn't have quite enough to cover it on their own. - INCONCLUSIVE
Wisconsin: Here, on the other hand, Stein's 1.1 percent is just enough to bridge the 1-percent margin between the winning Trump and the losing Clinton. But then what does Johnson's 3.4 percent do to the results—or, for that matter, the nearly half a percentage point that Castle won while running to Trump's right? - WITHOUT VOTES FOR JOHNSON, CLINTON'S LOSS WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE
So... third party candidates gave Clinton 40 electoral votes yet only gave Trump 16 electoral votes. Gary Johnson left and right gave tight races to Clinton over and over... Stein spoiled Michigan and that's why Trump was up 16 electoral college votes.
The rest of your dozen or so paragraphs of insults, profanity, demonization, vilification, falsehoods, disinformation, lies and epithets are some of the most vile and factually dishonest things you've ever typed on this site.
You are a blowhard, a sadist and a sad sad sack of shit... your attacks and trolling of certain members is deplorable and you are a pathetic, pathetic... PATHETIC little man. You are a liar, a provocateur and an instigator of strife and disunity.
Take your lying ass and get the fuck off of this site, you are a pariah and a bully.
- b.c.,
Another EXCELLENT post.
"History proves that Protest votes do NOT influence your party to move toward your wishes.
When the liberals lose to the conservatives, the liberal party MODERATES toward the middle.
It happens every time. So Stupid fucks like Susan Sarandon- while well meaning- are idiots to imagine that defecting to some fringe third party dipshit to 'send a message' to the Party establishment NEVER achieve their aims- they achieve the opposite." - Ayesho
I tried to tell 'em this too, awhile back. And they couldn't fkng COMPREHEND the rationale.
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"You can lead a horse to water, but not an ass." - b.c.
- b.c.,
You mean like YOUR sore loser ------ got over Bernie's loss? I wonder, how DOES it feel knowing your words and actions (and those of your ilk) helped elect a candidate who ran a campaign of hate and racism and whose presidency will set back liberal/progressive ideas for DECADES.
"Blowback"??
"You can lead a horse to water but not an ass." - b.c.
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Really Phil?
And what if you are wrong? Oh wait, the indoctrinated Sheeple have been programmed to believe they are never wrong. My bad.
But always remember, The real American people won. You got BEAT.
You could always go help sargon20 change Hilderbeast Depends if it would make you feel better.
Have a great next 4+4+ years.
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Really Phil?
And what if you are wrong? Oh wait, the indoctrinated Sheeple have been programmed to believe they are never wrong. My bad.
But always remember, The real American people won. You got BEAT.
You could always go help sargon20 change Hilderbeast Depends if it would make you feel better.
Have a great next 4+4+ years.
Tell me how it decreases ideas? WTF.?
What goes around comes around ..Embrace itBernie got his, Hillary got hers..except it was rude..harsher..Since Trump won on Electoral votes.
.Electoral College was set up to help Slave Owner votes..Wow..That's harsh
The Critical Role of Self-Care for Handling Post-Election Stress
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