FCC and the F-Word

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  1. B_VinylBoy

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    And now, for something a little different.
    A three-judge panel said the FCC will have to go back to the drawing board if it wants a profanity policy that will survive scrutiny because the current policy is "unconstitutionally vague" and creates a "chilling effect that goes far beyond the fleeting expletives at issue here." The ruling came in Fox Television Stations Inc. v. FCC, 06-1760-ag, a case where the FCC was forced to defend a 2004 policy in which the agency increased enforcement efforts against profanity that included swear words uttered at the Billboard Music Awards by Cher in 2002 and Nicole Richie in 2003. The stepped-up enforcement was triggered in part by complaints after the 2003 Golden Globes Awards, where U2 lead singer Bono said while accepting an award, "this is really, really fucking brilliant. Really, really, great."

    Law.com - 2nd Circuit Strikes FCC Profanity Ban as Vague, Overly Broad

    So how soon will it be until we start hearing Spongebob & Patrick dropping the F-bomb on Nickelodeon? :biggrin1:
     
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    This is a good thing, but I wish it would lead to no censorship whatsoever.
     
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    Have any children?
     
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    Nope, and if I did I could easily control what they watched.
     
  5. FRE

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    Perhaps the best solution would be to rate programs on content and have a system so that parents could block TV programs based on rating. It might be necessary to have several ratings, such as on language, violence, sex, etc., so parents could selectively block programs based on the content that they feel is important.

    Ideally parents would be in better control, but some parents are not very responsible and other parents are so pressed for time that they can't always be in control.
     
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    We have that in the US at least where I am. TV-MA and stuff for example, but pretty much anything on cable will still be censored in some way.
     
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    What it means is the only television families could watch together would be movies, and cartoons.
     
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    So be it. Not everything aired needs to be graphic, or have swears. A lot of shows don't have that already.

    However trying to watch the Sopranos on TV is so aggravating because the whole show is edited down to the point where there's no reason to watch it.
     
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    I understand that my upbringing was a bit less conventional than many, but foul language was never a big deal in my house growing up. My sister and I were simply taught that adults have prerogatives along with their responsibilities, and that swearing was one of them. Though our language was monitored, there were no filters on my parents' speech at all.

    If I'd had a quarter for every time I'd heard an adult say "fuck" or "shit", it would have sent me to Harvard for eight years :wink:
     
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    I have no issue with swearing, and can't ever understand why people make such a big deal over it. It's just a word meant to convey a feeling or emotion.

    If you say "Son of a Gun!" it has identical meaning to "Son of a Bitch!" yet the latter is considered offensive because people deemed bitch a swear.

    It makes no sense if you really break it down.
     
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    Really? How would you know what was going to be shown unless you'd seen every program in advance? Because unless you had, how could you be sure what acts of sex, violence, etc. lay ahead?

    I don't care at all about "swearing", but, for example, it was never fun explaining Viagra ads to a five-year old (these would air in the middle of the day during, say, a football game). So if there was "no censorship" one can only imagine....,,
     
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    No so. Parents would have the capability of setting up the TV set to block programs according to certain criteria, and they could also unblock them.
     
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    Technically, swearing is taking the name of the Lord in vain. Using the "f" word and other words are not swearing. The King James version of the Bible contains the phrase, "Those who piss against the wall." It is often translated as "males." You can use google to find the phrase if you don't believe it.
     
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    I heard the word "bitch" for the first time watching Dynasty some time in the 80s. Though completely unoffended, it did surprise me.

    Hate to split hairs, but isn't there a difference between blasphemy and run-of-the-mill vulgar swearing?
     
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    Yes, FRE was being unnecessarily pedantic, as well as mistaken.

    As a transitive verb, Webster's lists this for swear:

    4. obsolete : to invoke the name of (a sacred being) in an oath

    As an intransitive verb, it shows:
    2 : to use profane or obscene language : CURSE


    So technically speaking, the notion of swear implying a blasphemy is deprecated...in common parlance, it's synonymous with using profanity.
     
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    Here where I live swearing isn't censored on TV and they have some very creative slang. But Digiturk just started censoring cigarette smoking. Every scene in a movie or a show in which someone smokes, the fag is blurred out. Bloody stupid if you ask me.
     
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    There are extremely sophisticated parental controls on the internet, television and gaming now. Something like a viagra ad I wouldn't even be concerned with honestly.
     
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    The SciFi genre in particular seems to enjoy pissing over the censors' lines. Throughout Battlestar Galactica, the work frak was used as a direct replacement for fuck, even in compound forms; and Joss Whedon's characters in Firefly / Serenity used gorram in placed of goddamn, skirting the censors' discomfort with blasphemous cursing.
     
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    BSG was one of my favorite shows ever, and it brings up the point I made.

    Fuck is bad, but Frak is acceptable despite meaning the same exact thing. Silly.
     
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