By lumping all Republicans as being bigots and hateful, doesn't that by default also make you a bigot? Just asking :tongue:. If you look state by state you need a substantial Democratic vote to squash any gay marriage bills. If tens of thousands of Liberals didn't vote for prop 8 in CA it wouldn't have passed. Exit polls showed a vast majority of African Americans also voted for the amendment, and numbers show a vast majority of that demographic is in fact Democrat.
Yes, and that African American vote was
insignificant compared to the total amount of people who actually voted in favor of Prop 8. If you count them all individually, they were responsible for roughly 8 million votes. Meanwhile, the bill received more than 50 million supporters. So where did the extra 42 Million votes come from?
Let's not add race to the subject, please. I've already broken down the numbers too many times on this board to dispel that rhetoric. As to imply that the bill wouldn't have passed if no black people voted in California.
Now don't get me wrong, obviously there are more religious nuts on the far right, but by no means do they hold a monopoly on the idea. Hell in the state of Mass you have a large population of Catholics, conservative Catholics but yet are Democratic when vote time comes.
Religion has its stronghold on everyone. It's a foundation that has centuries of footing and it manipulates the motives of people even when some claim that it doesn't.
Does the right stand on the soap box a lot more when it comes to gay marriage, yes, do they push that agenda more than the left, yes. But if the left really wanted gay marriage to pass, they could get it done. They are just as afraid to rock the boat as anyone else. Which to be frank, shocks me to death why anyone in this day and age is a Republican or Democrat.
No "one side" is going to get it done. Any bill left to the public to decide needs support from all sides of the political spectrum. That's because homophobia is the real problem and that knows no political bias.
"I don't know if you've noticed, but our two party system is a bowl of shit looking in the mirror at itself." - Lewis Black
And a third party system isn't going to happen anytime soon because all of the alternatives are doing nothing but adding more shit to the mix. What good is talking about the failures of the Democrats and the Republicans when these other parties can't even create a viable candidate with a platform that sways the American people? Also, why do many of them choose to run under the label of "Democrat" or "Republican" when it comes time to vote?
Gotta love Lewis Black, though... he's one of those comedians who is just allergic to stupidity and has no problems pointing it out. God bless him. :wink: