Felix Lefèvre (été 85, Alex Aka Alexis)

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They are very beautiful together, a chemistry between them is very big. Thanks for the video. I think they are both bi
Yeah, also both have played gay characters in the past as well, we'll see but I'm pretty sure Felix is at least Bi.
 
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It is a bit strange that these two guys have been promoting the movie and I've read 4 different interviews with one or both of them together and neither the interviewer or the actors ever address the issue of their sexual orientations. Much like the movie, gay sex is hinted at but never directly engaged. In the US, there is a backlash against straight actors even playing gay roles but France is odd when it comes to public questions about sexuality. And maybe it is the translation issue but in print interviews, I don't see any innuendo or other suggestion that they hooked up. Here is a quote from one that stresses that they were just friends:

“Yeah, it's actually quite rare that you find somebody you have a real connection with,” Félix adds. “We were believing everything each other was saying and doing, and it made it easy to evolve into our characters. And as people, we became friends. It was a real good time!” Meet the heartthrob stars of your new queer movie obsession

I've always found French films (and french culture in general) to be very skeptical of gay identity despite (or maybe because of) the supposed french sexual libertinism. French politics since the revolution has historically not been receptive to minority rights because universality is held very highly as a foundational value of the Republic so the very notion of a minority identity apart from being french is viewed as an american innovation that is unnecessary in France.
 

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I've always found French films (and french culture in general) to be very skeptical of gay identity despite (or maybe because of) the supposed french sexual libertinism. French politics since the revolution has historically not been receptive to minority rights because universality is held very highly as a foundational value of the Republic so the very notion of a minority identity apart from being french is viewed as an american innovation that is unnecessary in France.
as an American who lived in Europe for almost 2 years, I don't think the 'gay skepticism' is inherently French, it's a common thing among Western European countries, I wouldn't even call it gay skepticism, is just that those societies don't really give much of a fuck if you're gay or not. at least not like in America where there's a whole mythology behind being gay and what it means and etc, which can be extremely exhausting; even the gay dating in Europe is pretty laid-back if you compare with America which is more drama driven and just extremely extra overall.
 

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It is a bit strange that these two guys have been promoting the movie and I've read 4 different interviews with one or both of them together and neither the interviewer or the actors ever address the issue of their sexual orientations. Much like the movie, gay sex is hinted at but never directly engaged. In the US, there is a backlash against straight actors even playing gay roles but France is odd when it comes to public questions about sexuality. And maybe it is the translation issue but in print interviews, I don't see any innuendo or other suggestion that they hooked up. Here is a quote from one that stresses that they were just friends:

“Yeah, it's actually quite rare that you find somebody you have a real connection with,” Félix adds. “We were believing everything each other was saying and doing, and it made it easy to evolve into our characters. And as people, we became friends. It was a real good time!” Meet the heartthrob stars of your new queer movie obsession

I've always found French films (and french culture in general) to be very skeptical of gay identity despite (or maybe because of) the supposed french sexual libertinism. French politics since the revolution has historically not been receptive to minority rights because universality is held very highly as a foundational value of the Republic so the very notion of a minority identity apart from being french is viewed as an american innovation that is unnecessary in France.

In France no one cares if a straight actor plays a gay character or a gay actor plays a straight character, I think that's great. :)
 
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The problem with not caring is that it takes out gay actors, writers, and artistic producers to bring good cultural representation to the broader society, which is the most effective way to reduce the heteronormative assumptions that undergird the closet and still sees homosexuality as a problem to be tolerated at best. Until those norms of so called universalism are challenged by public figures coming out, cultural and political progress for gays (and really any minority groups be it racial, religious or otherwise) will continue to be stalled or even regress with the rise of the far right.

Don't get me wrong - there is so much to love about France (I took a semester abroad in Alsace in college and loved it) but French exceptionalism is just as problematic as the lies the Americans tell ourselves in that regard...
 

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Also, french sexual libertinism isn't so great for women either and is often just an excuse for men behaving badly - while the mistress at the funeral of a former prime minister or president is celebrated as French aversion to puritanism that same indulgence has yet to be extended to female politicians. Universalism as practiced is quite so universal...
 

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The problem with not caring is that it takes out gay actors, writers, and artistic producers to bring good cultural representation to the broader society

I don't think so, I think, at the contrary, it invites everyone to bring good cultural representation. :)
I don't see why only gay people could do so.

Too much concept in your other posts for me, I would just say that I don't think the biggest threat for gay people in France is far right sadly...
 

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I don't think so, I think, at the contrary, it invites everyone to bring good cultural representation. :)
I don't see why only gay people could do so.

Too much concept in your other posts for me, I would just say that I don't think the biggest threat for gay people in France is far right sadly...

Gay people and Trans people are and should be the only people that can play LGBTQ+ roles in any form of media. Mainly because straight actors simply can not relate to the struggles an LGBTQ+ cast member has and will face, therefore will not be able to portray them genuinely and for a very long time gay actors weren't considered for any regular role. Casting straight people in LGBTQ+ roles has been and still is the common norm but it is perpetuating a stereotype that Straight actors are capable of taking any role meanwhile LGBTQ+ cast members are actively discriminated in taking "straight" roles so until Gay actors are considered in the same capacity as straight actors, straight actors should not portray gay roles
 

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It is a bit strange that these two guys have been promoting the movie and I've read 4 different interviews with one or both of them together and neither the interviewer or the actors ever address the issue of their sexual orientations. Much like the movie, gay sex is hinted at but never directly engaged. In the US, there is a backlash against straight actors even playing gay roles but France is odd when it comes to public questions about sexuality. And maybe it is the translation issue but in print interviews, I don't see any innuendo or other suggestion that they hooked up. Here is a quote from one that stresses that they were just friends:

“Yeah, it's actually quite rare that you find somebody you have a real connection with,” Félix adds. “We were believing everything each other was saying and doing, and it made it easy to evolve into our characters. And as people, we became friends. It was a real good time!” Meet the heartthrob stars of your new queer movie obsession

I've always found French films (and french culture in general) to be very skeptical of gay identity despite (or maybe because of) the supposed french sexual libertinism. French politics since the revolution has historically not been receptive to minority rights because universality is held very highly as a foundational value of the Republic so the very notion of a minority identity apart from being french is viewed as an american innovation that is unnecessary in France.

What I think about this is not that French do not care about sexual identity, however in the film they are not grown adults and are portray what feels like teens / young adults still exploring their sexualities so the director as well as PR manager has probably advised them not to talk about their own sexualities as people tend not to separate actor with reality and that would give the film other connotations i.e. if one of them says they are straight people would see the movie in a different perspective than what the Director intended. By not saying it everyone can keep looking at the movie and living off of the fantasy that it's real