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Hi everyone, reading this back, it’s a bit of a long post, so feel free to skip and I actually have started to write this post several times, but I have not been able to get the words out.

I thought that I had actually dealt with it, but after coming off the tube yesterday shaking and sweating like nothing on earth after travelling on it for pretty much the first time since this happened, I decided that it’s something that I had to get off my chest.

Shortly before Christmas, I was on the Victoria line on one of my final days into the London office – around 0740 (anyone that is not familiar with the tube in rush hour, it is something closely relating a sardine tin). I won’t name of the stations involved here for anonymity – but I was stood close to the door, pinned against a glass panel with a woman stood in front of me and my gym bag on (normally I take this off, but as there was a person with a large suitcase in the carriage, room at height level was slightly better than on the floor) and me being me had my headphones in, in my own little world as normal.

We get to a station en route, which by this time was quite close to the centre of the city, when the person next to me gets off. A chap (pretty much the only one on the platform) looks at the carriage I was in and the next one – and I suppose due to the fact a guy has just got off next to me – jumps on the train. Again, for anonymity, I won’t describe his appearance, but he was a regular looking guy, maybe a few years older than me, but mid to late 30s I would say. As the door shuts, his hand is shoved onto my crotch. Again, not hugely unusual for rush hour trains, so I move to my right to protect my modesty. But his hand went with me - this is where I get a little anxious. This has never been the case - surely this was an accident, if your hand is shoved onto someone else, even though these carriages are extremely full you still have room to manoeuvre so you are not in contact with a part of someone that – well – is a little more intimate than other areas. I move again so I am now pretty much facing in the opposite direction to him, pretty much into the carriage but I can’t move any more to the right as there is someone directly in front of me, I have my gym bag over my left shoulder and my right hand is on the hand rail above me. But his hand firmly follows me grabbing on to my cock going down my left leg.

It was at that point I realised two things. I was stuck, I could not really move anywhere, I could not get my arm into a position to grab his hand without shoving the person in front of me out of the way – and the doors opened on the opposite side of the carriage for the next two stops. So there I was basically paralyzed, stuck on a jammed train with a guy squeezing and rubbing my privates. I wanted to turn my head and yell at the top of my voice, but I couldn’t – in fact I couldn’t do anything. All my body wanted to do is the opposite of what I wanted it to, I started to get a bit of a semi sneaking further down my leg – not exactly what I wanted to give as the impression…. I hated every second…. And I started to sweat. That was it. Trapped being fondled by a guy effectively out of view, due to the person in front of me, for two of what appeared to be the longest journey times between stations I have ever had before the doors behind me eventually opened – thankfully.
I got off, even though I was three stops before my work - I had to get off the tube. I walked up to the street completely bewildered, bought a coffee and walked the rest of the way to work, arriving in the office around 20 minutes late.

I don’t know if I am over reacting, I have not really spoken about it, but it lead me to think about some pretty horrible stuff on the run up to the end of the year, some of it I have shared on here with amazing support.

Sorry if it sounds trivial, but I had to get it off my chest, as it really did affect me yesterday. And I realise that nothing really can be done, but it just feels a bit better to sound it out.
 

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That would be very creepy. Just because you're a guy doesn't mean you want to be groped. Sorry that happened to you! If you ever see him again you should have a speech prepared to tell him off so you dont feel like he completely got away with it.
 

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I can understand your concerns. If you ride again, could this person try this again? It doesn't seem like it would occur with the same person, because others would be aware as you are and point him out, unless they were encouraging it for some reason.

What are your fears or worries?
 

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What a horrible experience ! Please don't ever be afraid to embarrass these losers. I'm sure the person in font of you would be horrified to know their proximity to a sexual offender, and appreciate your alerting all in the area. You should not have to put up with that kind of behavior. You deserve privacy and respect.

I hope this never happens again. If it does, I hope you will be able to find your courage, and your voice in that time of difficulty and say, "Stop playing with my crotch, you pervert!" He may try to say something to embarrass you and save face, but he will almost surely stop touching you.

What do I do in that scenario? I quietly crush insteps. I push the button on my umbrella and hope to hit something sensitive. Offenders have always gotten the point. Don't feel badly. You did nothing wrong. No one had the right to violate you.
 
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In a hot fantasy this could be amazing. The reality is that it was an unsolicited breach of your privacy, and that is bad. We all know that some people get off on this sort of thing - I guess it's a little about power - the guy is relying on your awkwardness about creating a fuss or telling him appropriately to fuck off which allows him to continue doing what he's doing. It sounds like this has been a horrible experience for you, and I hope you can come to terms with it and that it doesn't have any ongoing effects for you. You deserve the right to ride the tube without being harassed.
 

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Hmm.

I'm torn. I once had someone ( a woman ) do something similar - at a party, rather than on the tube.

At one level, it did feel like an invasion of privacy.

At another, I suppose I was flattered by the attention.

Maybe your issue is more tied in with the idea of helplessness, your inability to escape being exploited ? Rather than the act of touching, as such ?

For me, one should only be troubled by ones own actions, or choices. In this instance, someone else took advantage of an unusual situation. Maybe there's also some concern about how you dress, how you appear etc. ? But for the most part that's not to do with your choices either. And if you want to change that, do it gradually, in your own time, not as a response to someone else's stupid act.

Take it easy, don't let it eat at you.

:smile:
 

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Hi everyone, reading this back, it’s a bit of a long post, so feel free to skip and I actually have started to write this post several times, but I have not been able to get the words out.

I thought that I had actually dealt with it, but after coming off the tube yesterday shaking and sweating like nothing on earth after travelling on it for pretty much the first time since this happened, I decided that it’s something that I had to get off my chest.

Shortly before Christmas, I was on the Victoria line on one of my final days into the London office – around 0740 (anyone that is not familiar with the tube in rush hour, it is something closely relating a sardine tin). I won’t name of the stations involved here for anonymity – but I was stood close to the door, pinned against a glass panel with a woman stood in front of me and my gym bag on (normally I take this off, but as there was a person with a large suitcase in the carriage, room at height level was slightly better than on the floor) and me being me had my headphones in, in my own little world as normal.

We get to a station en route, which by this time was quite close to the centre of the city, when the person next to me gets off. A chap (pretty much the only one on the platform) looks at the carriage I was in and the next one – and I suppose due to the fact a guy has just got off next to me – jumps on the train. Again, for anonymity, I won’t describe his appearance, but he was a regular looking guy, maybe a few years older than me, but mid to late 30s I would say. As the door shuts, his hand is shoved onto my crotch. Again, not hugely unusual for rush hour trains, so I move to my right to protect my modesty. But his hand went with me - this is where I get a little anxious. This has never been the case - surely this was an accident, if your hand is shoved onto someone else, even though these carriages are extremely full you still have room to manoeuvre so you are not in contact with a part of someone that – well – is a little more intimate than other areas. I move again so I am now pretty much facing in the opposite direction to him, pretty much into the carriage but I can’t move any more to the right as there is someone directly in front of me, I have my gym bag over my left shoulder and my right hand is on the hand rail above me. But his hand firmly follows me grabbing on to my cock going down my left leg.

It was at that point I realised two things. I was stuck, I could not really move anywhere, I could not get my arm into a position to grab his hand without shoving the person in front of me out of the way – and the doors opened on the opposite side of the carriage for the next two stops. So there I was basically paralyzed, stuck on a jammed train with a guy squeezing and rubbing my privates. I wanted to turn my head and yell at the top of my voice, but I couldn’t – in fact I couldn’t do anything. All my body wanted to do is the opposite of what I wanted it to, I started to get a bit of a semi sneaking further down my leg – not exactly what I wanted to give as the impression…. I hated every second…. And I started to sweat. That was it. Trapped being fondled by a guy effectively out of view, due to the person in front of me, for two of what appeared to be the longest journey times between stations I have ever had before the doors behind me eventually opened – thankfully.
I got off, even though I was three stops before my work - I had to get off the tube. I walked up to the street completely bewildered, bought a coffee and walked the rest of the way to work, arriving in the office around 20 minutes late.

I don’t know if I am over reacting, I have not really spoken about it, but it lead me to think about some pretty horrible stuff on the run up to the end of the year, some of it I have shared on here with amazing support.

Sorry if it sounds trivial, but I had to get it off my chest, as it really did affect me yesterday. And I realise that nothing really can be done, but it just feels a bit better to sound it out.
Just tell them to get their hands off of you before you fuck them up.


This works every time
 

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thanks guys for the support.

it felt great to finally get out something I have been bottling up, and something I have only told one close friend. So to see I was not over reacting is good.

The other reason I wanted to sound it out is to see if its worth contacting the transport police as i would hate someone else to go trough it, but i thought it would be a waste of time.

Regardless getting it in the open has helped!
 

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Hey guy you have every reason to feel violated and don't let your inability to control the actions of your penis cloud your thinking. I think just about everyone on here would say if someone was playing with your cock and groping it you would experience some growth in your penis. The sweating and getting nervous is a common reaction to the feeling of knowing that your cock was enjoying it a bit and you didn't really want to be enjoying it. I have to put this out there; did it also bring up some old script issues that maybe when you were younger you were violated by someone and it brought back those feelings?
 

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I used to cummute on the NYC subway and the Underground at rush hour you are jammed into the cars,carriages.I had had a similiar situation,but instead of freaking I told the guy he better get his hand off me or I would puke all over and on him.Needless to say I had plenty of room....fled like white women with their hair on fire.Trust me,it works every time!!
 

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i actually have never told many ppl before but have been in few situations that turned little bad. As im smaller stature- 5'8 and usually attracted to taller- have had guys get quite physcial.

ive been forced onto few times and the shock is most of what you described - one example is going to the restroom at the stations and the urinals were full so i went to the blocks instead, leaving the door semi open. Then someone tried to force their way in: i yelled out - its taken, but still they kept pushing very forcefully. i was in shock as i felt this person almost directly behind me. so i quickly finished up and realised he had moved on, as the pressure against the semi open door eased. i quickly ran out- not knowing who that jerk was.

i thought maybe i attract it, but now thinking back, we should never be put in uncomfortable positions/situations regardless of whether in private &/or esp out in public. theres a time and place for it, not at a station and definately not within a carriage.


JJ
 
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Hi everyone, reading this back, it’s a bit of a long post, so feel free to skip and I actually have started to write this post several times, but I have not been able to get the words out.

I thought that I had actually dealt with it, but after coming off the tube yesterday shaking and sweating like nothing on earth after travelling on it for pretty much the first time since this happened, I decided that it’s something that I had to get off my chest.

Shortly before Christmas, I was on the Victoria line on one of my final days into the London office – around 0740 (anyone that is not familiar with the tube in rush hour, it is something closely relating a sardine tin). I won’t name of the stations involved here for anonymity – but I was stood close to the door, pinned against a glass panel with a woman stood in front of me and my gym bag on (normally I take this off, but as there was a person with a large suitcase in the carriage, room at height level was slightly better than on the floor) and me being me had my headphones in, in my own little world as normal.

We get to a station en route, which by this time was quite close to the centre of the city, when the person next to me gets off. A chap (pretty much the only one on the platform) looks at the carriage I was in and the next one – and I suppose due to the fact a guy has just got off next to me – jumps on the train. Again, for anonymity, I won’t describe his appearance, but he was a regular looking guy, maybe a few years older than me, but mid to late 30s I would say. As the door shuts, his hand is shoved onto my crotch. Again, not hugely unusual for rush hour trains, so I move to my right to protect my modesty. But his hand went with me - this is where I get a little anxious. This has never been the case - surely this was an accident, if your hand is shoved onto someone else, even though these carriages are extremely full you still have room to manoeuvre so you are not in contact with a part of someone that – well – is a little more intimate than other areas. I move again so I am now pretty much facing in the opposite direction to him, pretty much into the carriage but I can’t move any more to the right as there is someone directly in front of me, I have my gym bag over my left shoulder and my right hand is on the hand rail above me. But his hand firmly follows me grabbing on to my cock going down my left leg.

It was at that point I realised two things. I was stuck, I could not really move anywhere, I could not get my arm into a position to grab his hand without shoving the person in front of me out of the way – and the doors opened on the opposite side of the carriage for the next two stops. So there I was basically paralyzed, stuck on a jammed train with a guy squeezing and rubbing my privates. I wanted to turn my head and yell at the top of my voice, but I couldn’t – in fact I couldn’t do anything. All my body wanted to do is the opposite of what I wanted it to, I started to get a bit of a semi sneaking further down my leg – not exactly what I wanted to give as the impression…. I hated every second…. And I started to sweat. That was it. Trapped being fondled by a guy effectively out of view, due to the person in front of me, for two of what appeared to be the longest journey times between stations I have ever had before the doors behind me eventually opened – thankfully.
I got off, even though I was three stops before my work - I had to get off the tube. I walked up to the street completely bewildered, bought a coffee and walked the rest of the way to work, arriving in the office around 20 minutes late.

I don’t know if I am over reacting, I have not really spoken about it, but it lead me to think about some pretty horrible stuff on the run up to the end of the year, some of it I have shared on here with amazing support.

Sorry if it sounds trivial, but I had to get it off my chest, as it really did affect me yesterday. And I realise that nothing really can be done, but it just feels a bit better to sound it out.

By US standards, you were sexually assaulted. Obviously it's not your fault, but you should report it and what happened. The usefulness of it is that people need to know that this sort of thing happens to guys and, yet, guys rarely report it.
 
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It is so sad, that if a woman were in your position they would have no second thoughts about yelling and calling attention to the situation. You were sexually violated and that is WRONG! "CockMySuck" is right that you should report it. While it may not amount to anything, it is amazing what "getting it on record" does for the psyche. Also keep in mind that the brain is a funny thing and don't be surprised if this incident creeps up on you when you least expect it; just be rest assured that you did nothing wrong and let the take away from this be if this happens again resist the urge to stay silent and yell and scream; like a girl.
I'm sorry that you had to experience this. Stay strong and remember venting is a good thing.
 

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I don’t know if I am over reacting, I have not really spoken about it, but it lead me to think about some pretty horrible stuff on the run up to the end of the year, some of it I have shared on here with amazing support.

Sorry if it sounds trivial, but I had to get it off my chest, as it really did affect me yesterday. And I realise that nothing really can be done, but it just feels a bit better to sound it out.

I'm sorry to hear that, and I would echo what others have said: You're not overreacting, and it's not trivial. It was disgusting, and a breach of your rights (around these parts, anyway).

What a horrible experience ! Please don't ever be afraid to embarrass these losers.

I agree completely. I get why you would have frozen, OP, that's a normal response to something you feel powerless to do anything about. But I'd like to think that an alternative would be to humiliate the guy and tell him, in your outdoor voice, to stop touching your penis or you'll contact the police.

In a hot fantasy this could be amazing. The reality is that it was an unsolicited breach of your privacy, and that is bad.

Exactly. There was no consent, and no way for you to get away, xtremehung. It's quite possible that the asshole who did it knew that and has done it before.

As for your getting a semi, I'm afraid that's not uncommon for guys who are groped/molested like that. It's very confusing for men in those situations, but basically there are two pathways in our nervous system that can excite arousal - one is all mental, and the other is all about touch. The touch system can activate no matter how unwanted the touch itself is. It may not be talked about widely, but this is something that survivors of sexual assault often have to confront.

The other reason I wanted to sound it out is to see if its worth contacting the transport police as i would hate someone else to go trough it, but i thought it would be a waste of time.

It might be a waste of time, but it might also add information to other reports about the same suspect. My understanding is that subway gropers are often repeat offenders. They purposely target people when there's no way to get away - so rush-hour subways, streetcars, elevators, and the like are places where this often happens.

The police may have other reports of the same person, and if not, yours might be the first report in a series. So I guess it's up to you to define what a waste of your time would be, and act accordingly. Whatever your choice is, there's no shame in it.
 

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Cheers guys.

I feel bad that I always only seem to come on here with horrible bad things, I will try and get some light hearted points to discuss, I am a pretty normal person, with a not to far from normal life. But guess I find this a very easy forum to talk about things that I just seem totally unable to in "real / offline life"

That being said, with the feedback on here (which I was genuinely not expecting, I kind of thought I was going to get, man up - shit happens - which is what I've been thinking) I will go to btp, I'm pretty sure nothing will happen, as its almost impossible to catch these guys - let alone convict them, due to the circumstances, and dispute being a rammed tube - lack of witnesses. But it might help add to awareness and assist them looking for this kind of thing in the future.

Anyway - to all of you who have kindly responded thank you, its helped allot.
 

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If I were in that type of predicament I would have grabbed his hand move it away from my crotch. Look him square in the eye and tell him if he ever does that again I would beat him off as soon as the next train stops. (Intimidation purpose) I dunno why you didn't act accordingly since you were so distressed and was thinking how to avoid the situation. C'mon dude your an adult and you can stick up for yourself. Not trying to be rude but it was obvious he had his hand on you. I'm guessing you are a shy guy and don't like confronting ppl. Don't be afraid to put him on the spot, that type of behaviour should be exposed in front of everyone that way if you are unsuccessful, then the other passengers could alert an officer if he is on board or while exiting the train. I hope you got a good sketch on how this guy looked and hope they can catch him..
 

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It happened to me about twelve years or so ago, going to work on the Metropolitan line, between King's Cross and Liverpool Street. I was standing in a packed vestibule, everyone pressed up against each other. I was facing a guy, crushed against him, when I felt his hand against my crotch, I didn't think much about it in the circumstances until he began gently rubbing my cock through my trousers. Despite being a little embarrassed that someone might see what he was up to, I inevitably got hard.

Luckily the train started to empty out at Moorgate and he had no option but to lay off. He got off at Liverpool Street, whilst I continued.

I didn't do anything about it because I found it quite amusing and was slightly impressed by his audacity. Also, I didn't really think that it was a significant enough "assault" to justify reporting it - I just concluded that it was some chancer taking advantage of the situation. Plus, at that time, there were no security cameras on the trains and few on the platforms (unlike today!) to provide any useful evidence.
 

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If I were in that type of predicament I would have grabbed his hand move it away from my crotch. Look him square in the eye and tell him if he ever does that again I would beat him off as soon as the next train stops. (Intimidation purpose) I dunno why you didn't act accordingly since you were so distressed and was thinking how to avoid the situation. C'mon dude your an adult and you can stick up for yourself. Not trying to be rude but it was obvious he had his hand on you. I'm guessing you are a shy guy and don't like confronting ppl. Don't be afraid to put him on the spot, that type of behaviour should be exposed in front of everyone that way if you are unsuccessful, then the other passengers could alert an officer if he is on board or while exiting the train. I hope you got a good sketch on how this guy looked and hope they can catch him..

Hey, yes you are right although I was jammed I could have got my arm down, although this would have whacked the woman in front of me, I think if I would have said out loud what was going on I think I would have been forgiven, but at the start it was a bit difficult to work out what was going on, then I ended up getting further wedged by trying tho turn away from him. But yes I could have with some rather difficult shifting get into a position to grab him and looking back on it I am still not sure why I just totally froze. I think partly due to shock. I think in hind sight I would of done something differently.
 

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hindsight is a wonderful thing, the shock factor can explain alot.
@xtremehung seek some peace to know you're not alone,

im really enjoying, seeing the support lpsg community extends and the stories behind the members/manhoods than being just a piece of meat. (tho we might enjoy abit of nsa action - i dont think assault is what ppl had inmind)

JJ
 
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