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Originally posted by geo8x6@Jul 9 2004, 06:51 AM
hey jonb, before you pass judgement on squirting in porn, watch the one we were talking about or a Seymore Butts video. There are some fake squirting (douche), but there are a few women in porn (Alishia Klass, Cytherea, Mila, taylor Wayne) who can and do squirt on camera. As for squirting on command, you have to figure that they shoot an hour or more of tape to trim down to a 20 minute scene.

And in "Buttwoman '97", Taren Steele squirts over Tiffany Mynx's shoulder and across her back. I'm not sure how it's done, but it wasn't faked. Very entertaining!
 

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Men in porn don't always have to "do it on command". Like I said, they can shoot an hour of tape for a 20 minute scene. I have had a little experience in the world of porn (amateur and some on the web stuff), I worked it for over an hour before they told me I could cum, it is more of hold it back as long as you can, not cum on command.
 

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Leahcat, here is the thread I was talking about. I haven't reread the whole thing yet, but I think there's a lot of good info on here. Remember girl, practise, practise, practise! :p
 

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What about the 'social taboos' of female ejaculation? I, personally would argue that women have trained themselves to NOT ejaculate... they just need to learn how to let go of their inhibitions and it would come naturally to MOST.

Yes, I believe in it... yes I try to get each one of my partners to ejaculate. You have no idea how many times ive heard 'I dont wanna pee on you'. Just go to the bathroom beforehand, and get OVER the fear of making a huge mess, and have a blast (heh).
 

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Originally posted by dongalong@Jul 2 2004, 02:58 PM
:eek: There is a female porn star called Cytherea who gushes more than any women I've seen, this movie is AMAZING!!!!!

http://www.ksexradio.com/freeclips/freecli...rea_contest.wmv

I learned all about female ejaculation so I was doing everything right for it to happen but it took a lot of explaining and convincing before my girlfriend would allow herself to squirt.
She would feel an intense pressure to urinate so I would stop the stimulation but when she tried to pee nothing came out!
When it finally happened (after many multiple orgasms) it became much easier for her, she was even able to squirt only with clitoral stimulation.
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I've seen vids of Cytherea, and at least in the ones I was watching, she was clearly peeing, not squirting. They were sustained streams, in a volume so high that the bladder is the only place that much liquid could be stored inside her body. And on at least one close-up, you could actually see the stream coming right out of her urethra. It was urine.

I'm not saying that female ejaculation isn't a real phenomenon, just that porn is not a good way to learn about it.
 

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Aloofman, you are so right! Porn depictions of female ejaculation seem pretty fake to me. It certainly doesn't come out in a stream, it oozes out in a gush. I had some idiot say he wanted to collect it in a glass and drink it! Where do men get these stupid ideas? I guess you could wring out the bedsheets, but geez! It takes a lot of effort to make something that intense happen, once you take your dick out, it's over. Porn has done more to twist men's minds about what sex is all about than anything I can think of. It sure gives no clues about the female orgasm.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Jan 9 2005, 08:22 PM
Where do men get these stupid ideas?
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The internet. Now you've got a lot of virgins writing porn.
 

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Originally posted by jonb+Jan 10 2005, 04:29 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jonb &#064; Jan 10 2005, 04:29 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jan 9 2005, 08:22 PM
Where do men get these stupid ideas?
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The internet. Now you&#39;ve got a lot of virgins writing porn.
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Great, well I guess it is supposed to be about fantasy, so why not? I just get so confounded when I hear a guy irl saying something like "It&#39;s true, I saw it on a porno&#33;".
 

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I think most pornos are fake too. But I did hear the porno &#39;Flirtin n Squirtin&#39; is real squirting and watched it myself, it seemed very real ;)

It was kinda like water but cloudier, and there was lots of it, of course it could still be fake but they were doing it so often :D and seemed really into it...
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Jan 10 2005, 04:22 AM
Aloofman, you are so right&#33; Porn depictions of female ejaculation seem pretty fake to me. It certainly doesn&#39;t come out in a stream, it oozes out in a gush. I had some idiot say he wanted to collect it in a glass and drink it&#33; Where do men get these stupid ideas? I guess you could wring out the bedsheets, but geez&#33; It takes a lot of effort to make something that intense happen, once you take your dick out, it&#39;s over. Porn has done more to twist men&#39;s minds about what sex is all about than anything I can think of. It sure gives no clues about the female orgasm.
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I will say that, on several occasions, I have collected it in a glass and drunk it in front of her. It&#39;s just a question of getting the vessel there and doing it. Never have I found any female ejaculate I did not love, in terms of taste, texture, temperature and....EVERYTHING about it. What is it? I do not know...I just know that it is among themost wonderful substances on earth and if I could drown in a swimming pool full of it, then...death where is thy sting?

My current partner/soon-to-be wife has recently started squirting and the volume is increasing on an encounter to encounter basis, as she gets used to the sensation and finds it enjoyable. The first time, it was less than a ounce, now it is significantly more, but I have not yet gotten it into a gradual. Someday, maybe.

As far as the force goes, it varies from woman to woman and encounter to encounter. I have seen it squirt several feet and I have seen it just gush forth. One never knows until one is there.

And while it does initially take a lot of effort to get to this stage of arousal, with practice and comfort it gets progressively easier. Both qualities are important and as women become experienced and comfortable with the phenomenon, as their partners assure them that they are not freaks and that this is a beautiful, wonderful experience to share...well, it is far, far easier. In another post, I remarked that male sexuality is a confidence game you play with yourself and if you believe you can do it, you almost certainly can. Well human sexulity in general is a confidence game, in general and as long as you believe, as long as you are comfortable with what you are doing and you feel good about it....you almost certainly can.

Example: my ex-wife wanted me to throw her on the dining room table and "take" her right there. She never told me this until after we were apart. Why? She thought I would think she was a "slut." No, I would not have thought her a "slut" and yes, I would gladly have done this to her and just been glad to give her pleasure and share the experience with her. There is a lesson to be learned here and I will say that if there is a common denominator, all the female ejaculators I have known, without exception, were open, communicative and comfortable with their bodies and the process itself.

Can all women do it? That I do not know. I will say that I have met both "naturals" and those who learned how.

And I thank you for your kind comments about my skills, Zora, but, whether a woman ejaculates is, I think, up to her far more than it is up to me, though if I ever called one of them a "freak" or anything like that, it would surely have stopped. Again, one man&#39;s opinion, take it for what it&#39;s worth.
 

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I&#39;m so glad there&#39;s a subject for this because it&#39;s crazy to have experienced something that there&#39;s no biological explanation for&#33; I can&#39;t explain where it comes from, but the first time it happened to me I was 18 and my boyfriend was a few years older and encouraged me to keep going after I&#39;d already come. He was on his knees and I was on my back and had my legs over his shoulders so that he was inside of me right against my &#39;spot&#39;--I just kept moving my hips around and I could actually feel his cock pressing against my abdomen if I put my hand on my stomach. anyway, it seemed that once I came I almost couldn&#39;t stop. It was incredibly intense, almost too much and finally I just let go to it. I could feel how incredibly wet I was getting him, his legs, my ass, the sheets... everything was totally soaked&#33; Since then I&#39;ve been able to do it kind of the way Zora said, multiple times and in certain positions. I need to have pressure against my g-spot either fingers or I need to be on top sometimes to control the position and either stroking my clit myself or my partner rubbing or sucking it. It&#39;s really amazing but I certainly can&#39;t do it at will and I don&#39;t think I could masturbate to do it. It&#39;s almost like I have to consciously commit to wanting to do it and allow myself to put the time and energy into it--not that I mind, it just takes awhile to work up to it and time to really enjoy it.

On another topic. have any other women had their breasts swell a lot during sex? Especially after multiple orgasms... I know they do a little sometimes, but mine swell to the point where I won&#39;t fit into my bras afterwards and then they stay swollen and really sensitive into the next day.
 

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Originally posted by madame_zora@Jan 9 2005, 08:38 PM
Great, well I guess it is supposed to be about fantasy, so why not? I just get so confounded when I hear a guy irl saying something like "It&#39;s true, I saw it on a porno&#33;".
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Yeah, and if all porn were accurate, then:

*Women always have orgasms, even if it just involves handjobs.
*Anal is the most common homosexual act, rather than simply a homosexual act which unimaginative homophobes think is the only homosexual act.
*Women never get pregnant.
*No one has AIDS.
*All uncircumcised gay men are covered in smegma.
*Lesbians love it when straight guys watch them.
*Children who have sex with their parents and teachers are generally well-adjusted.
*Sex is a good way to pay for anything, or even to say hi. It&#39;s just polite, after all.
*With sexual positions, comfort isn&#39;t as important as camera angle.
 

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Originally posted by jonb+Jan 10 2005, 06:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jonb &#064; Jan 10 2005, 06:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jan 9 2005, 08:38 PM
Great, well I guess it is supposed to be about fantasy, so why not? I just get so confounded when I hear a guy irl saying something like "It&#39;s true, I saw it on a porno&#33;".
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Yeah, and if all porn were accurate, then:

*Women always have orgasms, even if it just involves handjobs.
*Anal is the most common homosexual act, rather than simply a homosexual act which unimaginative homophobes think is the only homosexual act.
*Women never get pregnant.
*No one has AIDS.
*All uncircumcised gay men are covered in smegma.
*Lesbians love it when straight guys watch them.
*Children who have sex with their parents and teachers are generally well-adjusted.
*Sex is a good way to pay for anything, or even to say hi. It&#39;s just polite, after all.
*With sexual positions, comfort isn&#39;t as important as camera angle.
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jonb, you forgot a few things:

* All men grunt like pigs in heat and all women squeal and shriek when they&#39;re fucking
* Women get amazing manicures (Lee Press-on Glamour Length) and buy the tallest shoes ever created before they have sex
* No one ever ejaculates into their partner -- that&#39;s what faces, boobs, butts and backs are for
 

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Interesting that people skipped right over my post about the societal pressures of remaining what is considered to be &#39;proper&#39; during intercourse, and how that may &#39;suppress&#39; the urge to ejaculate in women. I&#39;d still like to see my point addressed. :glare:

One other thing... most of the people in this country run around in a continous state of partial dehydration. People... DRINK YOUR 8 8oz glasses of water every day. Yeah, the first week its gonna suck cause you will be pissing every single hour.. but since I started doing this my pre-cum and ejaculate volume is utterly tremendous. I think it would be the same for the woman too.

And on another note... I can&#39;t believe that I&#39;ve been here for 3+ years. My how time flies.
 

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>>I could feel how incredibly wet I was getting him, his legs, my ass, the sheets... everything was totally soaked&#33;

Whew... cold towel please.
 

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Originally posted by Doctor_Ay@Jan 9 2005, 11:54 PM
What about the &#39;social taboos&#39; of female ejaculation? I, personally would argue that women have trained themselves to NOT ejaculate... they just need to learn how to let go of their inhibitions and it would come naturally to MOST.

Yes, I believe in it... yes I try to get each one of my partners to ejaculate. You have no idea how many times ive heard &#39;I dont wanna pee on you&#39;. Just go to the bathroom beforehand, and get OVER the fear of making a huge mess, and have a blast (heh).
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DoctorAy, yes I did miss this post. You have surely hit on the most significant reason for the lack of evidence of the female orgasm, let alone ejaculation&#33; Women don&#39;t live in the same world as men. We don&#39;t learn to masutrbate in our teens, we don&#39;t know what our organs look like, we are taught "good girls don&#39;t", and our orgasms are rarely acknowledged, let alone encouraged. My own roommate (knowing how I spend my time online&#33;) talked to me about this last week. She was sure she had wet the bed and asked if there was any way to keep from peeing when she orgasmed. She&#39;s 20. We talked about it at length and she is the youngest woman I know of who&#39;s experienced ejacualtion. I told her to keep her b/f and never let him go&#33;

By the time a woman opens up to explore sex, we already have a whole host of preconceived notions about how it&#39;s supposed to be. We&#39;re supposed to look pretty and be interested in the guys&#39; pleasure. That&#39;s it. Sex is over when HE cums, and let&#39;s face it- very young guys can cum pretty quick if most of their experience is with masturbation&#33; We&#39;ve all read the threads on j/o contests.
We&#39;re supposed to be gracious, supportive and kind. We&#39;re not allowed to say "What? That&#39;s it??". Young men are not taught about the differences in our physiology, so they often think we&#39;re the same. Someone posted a while ago "Everyone&#39;s responsible for their own orgasm", well that&#39;s only true in masturbation&#33; In sex with a partner, each should be concerned with both parties&#39; mutual pleasure. Women have to fight with all of society&#39;s pressure, and then contend with our partner. A little real sex education in schools would go a long way, but alas, it is not to be for quite some time. Even many Biblical views have us regarding our bodies as "unclean". We are embarrassed about our mentruation. We are told sometimes that our natural body odor is unpleasant (bullshit&#33;). Long before I ever ejaculated, I remember a guy telling me I was "too wet down there" like it was something I could control. It&#39;s no wonder we&#39;re often afraid to really let go and have fun in sex.

And it goes on and on. If men have preferences on what they like, it&#39;s okay, but if women do, we&#39;re bitches. Apparently, not being willing to have sex with just anybody makes you a bitch, but if you are, you&#39;re a whore. What are we supposed to do? Men take out their anger at their own inability to perform on us, often times. We&#39;re too loose, too tight, too smelly, not enthusisatic enough, too eager.......it&#39;s always our fault. Enter ejaculation. If a man has never experiences a partner who does this, he will swear it&#39;s a myth. Why? Because he refuese to believe that he isn&#39;t the very best lover on Earth (along with having the biggest dick). I&#39;ve had guys who have actually nearly demand that I tell them their dick is the biggest one I&#39;ve ever seen (regardless of actual size). Also, if he knows a woman can experience this kind of orgasm, he may actually have to put out more effort that just addressing his own needs. Not everyone is willing to do that. Here&#39;s a fun one: since I&#39;ve had this experience, I&#39;ve actually had guys rather jealous (not in a good way) that&#39;s I&#39;m having more fun than they are, ie, "getting more out of it" than they are. That point is true, I can have an unlimited amount of orgasms whereas most men can only have a couple at one session. Just another way our bodies are different. But I find it overwhelming that women (who can have multiple orgasms given the proper stimulation) very often don&#39;t orgasm at all&#33;

Okay, I&#39;ll wrap up this dissertation with an address to your second post. I do drink tons of fluids, water, coffee, tea, pop, I&#39;m sure that has an effect on the amount of fluid I produce. I have no way to measure it, but suffice it to say I can leave several drenched spots on a bed that are wet enough to soak through to bedspread, sheets, right down to the matress, leaving the poor guy to wonder where he&#39;s going to sleep. I also pee immediately before and after sex (as all women should) to help prevent UTI&#39;s and peeing on my partner. I am always amazed at how much I pee after sex when I&#39;ve just cum so much&#33; Also, I used to put a white towel under my ass to make sure it wasn&#39;t pee coming out (I was afraid of this at first), and I can tell you the fluid is completely clear and very watery with only a slight scent of vaginal fluids.

Doctor Ay, thanks for posting here, and I&#39;m sorry we missed your first one. I&#39;d like to know what kind of doctor you are, and some of your experiences or knowledge of this phenomenon.
 

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hey doctor
actually I thought you made a really good point about societal pressures not allowing women to make a mess or be out of control enough to let themselves cum in that way. I&#39;m sure it depends a lot on the cues a girl gets from her partner too--does he like going down on her, does he even care if she orgasms, let alone multiple times. It&#39;s funny how eager women are to not only please men sexually, but to "not offend" their boyfriends in bed--to be clean and waxed and have the perfect body, when in reality so many young guys just want to get off. anyway, I thought you had a good point and didn&#39;t want you to think it had gone unrecognized. you get my gold star&#33;
 

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Originally posted by Nienna@Jan 11 2005, 07:05 AM
Madame Zora you hit the nail on the head&#33;
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Glad you can relate. Welcome to the group, jump on in any time, girl- we need all the women we can get&#33;
 

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To some extent, I think it&#39;s a consequence of human anatomy; it&#39;s hard for girls to have contests on all things phallic. At the same time, it goes back to the old "damaged goods" double standard, e.g. a woman loses half her value the minute you pop her cherry. And of course, if a woman has any knowledge about sex and her hymen doesn&#39;t bleed (and most hymens don&#39;t), there&#39;s reason to believe she wasn&#39;t a virgin.