Ferguson

[b.c.]

I don't recall suggesting "the whole world is watching" and surely not with as much "bated breath" as some seem to PRESUME I've said.

What I AM suggesting is that the world (for various reasons, each their own) will and HAVE certainly taken NOTE of it, so that next time the U.S. presumes to tell someone ELSE about human rights violations, that country or their representative might very well tell us to go F***** ourselves, and rightly so.

Though it is INDEED interesting how the same people who with one breath say world view doesn't matter would in turn use this "whole world is watching" text as some cautionary as to how the good people of Ferguson should NOT react to yet another white wash of murder by cop.

Presumptuous too, their conclusion that world opinion would condemn the reaction of this community more so than the injustice of NO indictment of Wilson for the killing Michael Brown.

Therefore, the question (imo) becomes not IF people will react to the verdict (I think they WILL though HOPEFULLY, in a peaceful and dignified manner) nor even if they SHOULD. That SOMEthing need occur to effect change is EVIDENTLY clear.

And if not now, when? How many more Michael Browns and Trayvon Martins must there be?

 

[Jjz1109]

Yup, same person. Without a doubt. But we weren't supposed to remember that.

Hahahaha. Knob-slobbing :wink:? Enjoy yourselfs, gents, I know you always do. No need to offer any further explanations since you play dumb way too well.

Anyway, back to the thread, and hoping any protests are peaceful.

 

[rbkwp]

Anyway, back to the thread, and hoping any protests are peaceful.


ironically taking a little more of a keener interest on things now Jj
mainly as your posts have inspired me to hope for a peaceful protest outcome as well ..
somehow i sort of fear by past behaviours of similar that may not be the case and i am as far away as one can get .. follow with interest

 

[StormfrontFL]

Hahahaha. Knob-slobbing :wink:? Enjoy yourselfs, gents, I know you always do. No need to offer any further explanations since you play dumb way too well.

Anyway, back to the thread, and hoping any protests are peaceful.

Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes are the same ones who were so sure that riots would follow the Martin/Zimmerman verdict. I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals.

BTW it's tacit not tactic. I guess Dom will soon castigate you for your spelling errors.

I'll let you get back to the only foreign opinion that matters to you(next time get a room you two)

 

[Jjz1109]

Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes are the same ones who were so sure that riots would follow the Martin/Zimmerman verdict. I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals.

BTW it's tacit not tactic. I guess Dom will soon castigate you for your spelling errors.

I'll let you get back to the only foreign opinion that matters to you(next time get a room you two)

Lol. Guess you've never been bitten by the auto spell. Bully for you.

Are you saying I said "blacks are animals?"

 

[Popyuu]

Hahahaha. Knob-slobbing :wink:? Enjoy yourselfs, gents, I know you always do. No need to offer any further explanations since you play dumb way too well.

Anyway, back to the thread, and hoping any protests are peaceful.

Right. eric hasn't even been on here lately and you have his balls so far down your throat that you're coughing up his likeness. Like i said before. If you can't handle the very same insults you throw out, maybe you shouldn't say them. If you can't handle criticism of your opinions or ideals then maybe you shouldn't be doing the same to others. It's only fair to say right? Or are we not trying to be fair here.

Or are we not holding everyone to the same standards? Cause even if we aren't, you can still stop swinging on my dick now. I know it's pretty large an all but you don't have to keep putting it in your mouth. (and for those that don't understand what i'm alluding to. I'm calling him a dick rider.)

Oh and just so you guys can understand what i'm doing. If you bring immaturity into the conversation. As in the whole knob sobbing thing above. Then you should expect to get that in return. Cause its about fairness.

 

[Jjz1109]

Right. eric hasn't even been on here lately and you have his balls so far down your throat that you're coughing up his likeness. Like i said before. If you can't handle the very same insults you throw out, maybe you shouldn't say them. If you can't handle criticism of your opinions or ideals then maybe you shouldn't be doing the same to others. It's only fair to say right? Or are we not trying to be fair here.

Or are we not holding everyone to the same standards? Cause even if we aren't, you can still stop swinging on my dick now. I know it's pretty large an all but you don't have to keep putting it in your mouth. (and for those that don't understand what i'm alluding to. I'm calling him a dick rider.)

Oh and just so you guys can understand what i'm doing. If you bring immaturity into the conversation. As in the whole knob sobbing thing above. Then you should expect to get that in return. Cause its about fairness.

Popyuu, you seem to have an oral obsession. Not getting any at home? I don't know, you're wife loved mine last night, several times!!! (Lol. The immaturity part).

Anyway, are you serious about the insults? It wasnt too long ago I was told by one of your buds here that I was too sensitive. And clearly, the three of you have no problem with hurling your own. Insults aside, my issue was that you clearly missed the point of my reference to the previous aforementioned "rest of world" vs. "whole world is watching" semantics bs, and then try to turn it around. You all missed the point. Ain't gonna rehash it for you since you don't get it.

Enough of your trolling, moving along . . .

 

[b.c.]

This article, from the N.Y. Times speaks of the goals that the protestors in Ferguson hope to achieve via peaceful protests and demonstration, and how they hope to achieve them.

Specifically, as M.T. McPhearson (co-chairman, Don't Shoot Coalition) reportedly put it, it's about:

"...changing how police and citizens relate to one another... police accountability... transparency... changing how [they] do their work... indictment... or... not.... We still have that work to do."


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/groups-in-ferguson-prepare-for-grand-jury-decision.html?_r=0


Regarding violence, there are, no doubt those who are hopeful that the protestors resort to such (Klan and others) which will only give them opportunity to discredit the movement.

The secret being (as so aptly demonstrated in places like Selma, during the 60's Civil Rights Movement) is YOU don't turn violent. You let THEM turn violent.

A bit of history, for those who want to "take us back":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVymzWrBTww

 

[Popyuu]

Popyuu, you seem to have an oral obsession. Not getting any at home? I don't know, you're wife loved mine last night, several times!!! (Lol. The immaturity part).

Anyway, are you serious about the insults? It wasnt too long ago I was told by one of your buds here that I was too sensitive. And clearly, the three of you have no problem with hurling your own. Insults aside, my issue was that you clearly missed the point of my reference to the previous aforementioned "rest of world" vs. "whole world is watching" semantics bs, and then try to turn it around. You all missed the point. Ain't gonna rehash it for you since you don't get it.

Enough of your trolling, moving along . . .

You guys are funny.

 

[Jjz1109]

Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes are the same ones who were so sure that riots would follow the Martin/Zimmerman verdict. I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals.

BTW it's tacit not tactic. I guess Dom will soon castigate you for your spelling errors.

I'll let you get back to the only foreign opinion that matters to you(next time get a room you two)

Again, since you attached the above reply to my post and make the sweeping charge of "Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes . . ." And then end with "I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals."

Your ambiguity is offensive, and I ask that you show where I made such a statement. Otherwise, I will demand yet another apology for the liberties and twists that you are so comfortable and adept at making.

Libel anyone?

 

[Popyuu]

Again, since you attached the above reply to my post and make the sweeping charge of "Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes . . ." And then end with "I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals."

Your ambiguity is offensive, and I ask that you show where I made such a statement. Otherwise, I will demand yet another apology for the liberties and twists that you are so comfortable and adept at making.

Libel anyone?

I'm really beginning to love you guys. Demanding apologies for something you yourself have done and haven't apologized for. Oh the entitlement screams sooooo loudly round these parts. The first ones to cry and moan about people playing the victim or doing the whole victimization thing then turn around and "i haz le offended". I doubt it can get any more hypocritical than that. That shit is beyond hilarious.

Libel? ha! Ask if you could actually make a legal case against anything on this site. No judge in the world my friend lol.

 

[Jjz1109]

Funny how the ones hoping for peaceful outcomes are the same ones who were so sure that riots would follow the Martin/Zimmerman verdict. I guess that occasion wasn't enough to convince certain people that blacks aren't animals.

BTW it's tacit not tactic. I guess Dom will soon castigate you for your spelling errors.

I'll let you get back to the only foreign opinion that matters to you(next time get a room you two)

I'm really beginning to love you guys. Demanding apologies for something you yourself have done and haven't apologized for. Oh the entitlement screams sooooo loudly round these parts. The first ones to cry and moan about people playing the victim or doing the whole victimization thing then turn around and "i haz le offended". I doubt it can get any more hypocritical than that. That shit is beyond hilarious.

Libel? ha! Ask if you could actually make a legal case against anything on this site. No judge in the world my friend lol.

Simply asking where I said "blacks are animals." Because around here, silence is tacit (think it's spelled correctly this time) approval, or in this case, confirmation.

 

[b.c.]

In Ferguson, five peaceful demonstrators were arrested by officers in riot gear, Wednesday night after "refusing to disperse", police say:

Ferguson awaits grand jury outcome after police arrest protesters


While Michael Brown's father, pleads for peace:


http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-fath...hael-brown-grand-jury-decision-011139574.html

 

[Fuzzy_]

The Michael Brown decision won't result in much -- certainly not what the right-wing pundits are hoping for. What may cause another riot is another shooting of an unarmed black male, however.

'Nervous' rookie NYPD officer fatally shoots unarmed 28-year-old man in Brooklyn's Pink Houses project

From the article:

The uniformed officer fired a single, fatal shot into Akai Gurley's chest moments after he and his girlfriend entered a stairwell in the Pink Houses on Linden Blvd. in East New York on Thursday night, police said. Gurley was not armed, a police source said. 'They just started shooting,' Gurley's girlfriend said.
​

Officer Liang was allegedly nervous and he heard a noise in the dark. It's perfectly reasonable to just shoot. While this doesn't seem to be racially-motivated, it's yet another unarmed black male being killed under suspicious circumstances.

 

[rbkwp]

time
for America to have a TV program/series on shootings based on true facts
maybe even a months long real liife/LIVE broadcast trying to outdo South Africas Pistorious Case
your networks are likely to conjure up such with there thinking of the $ sign, but also as likely to be authorities blocked as in TRUTHS may come out
they cant allow the courts/perceived justice to prevail ..

tounge in cheek or a outsiders real time thought of your madness for Guns, put it in anyones hands and theyre likely to pull the trigger ..
months and months on debates/discussion on if the rookie was raw or not, of course he was, give a kid a gun he will play ..

 

[Jjz1109]

'Nervous' rookie NYPD officer fatally shoots unarmed 28-year-old man in Brooklyn's Pink Houses project

From the article:

The uniformed officer fired a single, fatal shot into Akai Gurley's chest moments after he and his girlfriend entered a stairwell in the Pink Houses on Linden Blvd. in East New York on Thursday night, police said. Gurley was not armed, a police source said. 'They just started shooting,' Gurley's girlfriend said.
​

Officer Liang was allegedly nervous and he heard a noise in the dark. It's perfectly reasonable to just shoot. While this doesn't seem to be racially-motivated, it's yet another unarmed black male being killed under suspicious circumstances.

Tragic.

And, if the officer is Asian as his name would indicate, thank God he wasn't white. Because then we'd certainly be hearing how it was racially motivated.

 

[deleted213967]

Tragic.

And, if the officer is Asian as his name would indicate, thank God he wasn't white. Because then we'd certainly be hearing how it was racially motivated.

In this seemingly straightforward tragedy, the (black) victim was a "total innocent" (as stated by the authorities), and the (non-black, but also non-white) officer was deemed a "rookie" from the onset. so in theory this should be a Ueber-Ferguson,

Let's see how the race card plays out here.

 

[deleted15807]

^ From the guy that lives and breathes the 'card'. Literally his protein drink. :bs2:

 

[b.c.]

'Nervous' rookie NYPD officer fatally shoots unarmed 28-year-old man in Brooklyn's Pink Houses project

From the article:

The uniformed officer fired a single, fatal shot into Akai Gurley's chest moments after he and his girlfriend entered a stairwell in the Pink Houses on Linden Blvd. in East New York on Thursday night, police said. Gurley was not armed, a police source said. 'They just started shooting,' Gurley's girlfriend said.
​

Officer Liang was allegedly nervous and he heard a noise in the dark. It's perfectly reasonable to just shoot. While this doesn't seem to be racially-motivated, it's yet another unarmed black male being killed under suspicious circumstances.

Yes, Fuzzy. And while the circumstances seem to be quite different here (for example, a single shot in "the dark" as opposed to an officer blazing away at a fleeing person he'd just confronted for walking in the street) we still have an UNJUSTIFIED/QUESTIONABLE killing here, and

REGARDLESS of the "motivation", "racial" or not, there SHOULD be consequences for ANY officer who kills ANYONE under questionable circumstances.

What part of that is so f*****ng hard for some people to figure out?

 

[deleted213967]

Still no Brooklyn riots?

I wonder what would happen if de Blasio's office corrected the officer's last name
from Liang to Wassermann?