Ferguson

[b.c.]

Not to mention the mysterious disappearance from the video recording by a local Burger King of the very period of time in which the shooting took place.

Laquan McDonald Shooting: Burger King Manager Accuses Police Of Erasing Surveillance Video (International Business Times, 29 November 2015)

According to Darshane, after police examined the video of the night, his employees discovered an 86-minute gap covering the period between 9:13 p.m. to 10:39 p.m. “I was just trying to help the police with their investigation ... I didn’t know they were going to delete it,” Darshane told the Chicago Tribune.

The shooting occurred at about 9:57 p.m., according to the timestamp on a police dashcam video released last week.​

Thanks for the update. I was not yet aware of that particular development.

 

[b.c.]

The usual "playbook" now in effect, starting with denials and cover-ups.... 86 minute gap in Burger King tape characterized by Chicago police superintendent McCarthy as a "technical difficulty". F'sure.

What's next? Smearing the victim and his family, perchance?

Chicago Cop Charged in Laquan McDonald Murder Free on $1.5 Million Bond - NBC News

 

[b.c.]

Yesterday this story broke in the media about an alleged conspiracy on the part of Alabama cops to plant evidence on blacks for the purposes of charging them with crimes they didn't commit:

Leaked Documents Show Alabama Police Department Planted Drugs On Black Men For Years

However, today there was an op-ed investigative piece from slate.com which included this revelation:

"The SPLC ... early to post Carroll’s article on Twitter ... was partly responsible for it spreading it as far as it did; this afternoon, however, the organization formally retracted the tweet after determining that they could not vouch for the truth of the article. “We shouldn’t have given it a platform,” SPLC digital media director Alex Amend told me."

What Do We Really Know About the Alleged Police Cover-Up in Dothan, Alabama?

As the author of the above observed, too early to tell, exactly what did (or didn't) happen in Dothan.

The evidence of institutionalized racial disparities in law enforcement in the U.S. already EXISTS. HOWEVER It serves us NO purpose when truth and facts become muddled with inaccuracies.

 

[b.c.]

And in tonight's news, MORE revelations as to the degree of cover-up and outright distortion of the FACTS as indicated by the recently disclosed written police reports - from the night of Laquan McDonald's murder (as if falsified reports are anything NEW - or maybe I'm mistaken and they ARE new.... must be Obama's fault):

Chicago Police Reports Contradict Dashcam Video of Shooting Death - NBC News

 

[rbkwp]

related i geuss/i dont follow it all closely

hope this is an appropriate placing ..
say so if not, i wont be offended!

www.abc.net.au: A city on the edge: 'No, I'm not proud to be an American'

A city on the edge: 'No, I'm not proud to be an American'

Eight months after the death in custody of 25-year-old Baltimore man Freddie Gray, #BlackLivesMatter has made the leap from hashtag to mass political movement.

 

[StormfrontFL]

related i geuss/i dont follow it all closely

hope this is an appropriate placing ..
say so if not, i wont be offended!

www.abc.net.au: A city on the edge: 'No, I'm not proud to be an American'

A city on the edge: 'No, I'm not proud to be an American'

Eight months after the death in custody of 25-year-old Baltimore man Freddie Gray, #BlackLivesMatter has made the leap from hashtag to mass political movement.

Perhaps you should remove this image?No minors, remember?

 

[rbkwp]

theyre 18 1/2 by my reckoning storm ha
anyway the articles context is what matters, not the 18 1/2 yos .. ha

a part from eyesight deterioation
15 min window donty give you time to ....

oh to be an active 18yo again, with a killers adult brain duh'

 

[StormfrontFL]

theyre 18 1/2 by my reckoning storm ha
anyway the articles context is what matters, not the 18 1/2 yos .. ha

a part from eyesight deterioation
15 min window donty give you time to ....

oh to be an active 18yo again, with a killers adult brain duh'

No way that those four are over or near 18.

 

[rbkwp]

ok
well your a white policeman, what are you going to do
shoot me
or report me
seems you have already purposely done that
many
Americans just cant help it but wanting to dominate the world huh

 

[StormfrontFL]

ok
well your a white policeman, what are you going to do
shoot me
or report me
seems you have already purposely done that
many
Americans just cant help it but wanting to dominate the world huh

Have you been reported?
Don't want to see anything happen to you....a view from outside is always welcome

Time to go listen to Karen sing "Merry Christmas, Darling"....ta ta for now

 

[b.c.]

Judge Declares Mistrial of Baltimore Cop in Freddie Gray Case

Officer's Mistrial in Gray's Death a Letdown for Both Sides

... no doubt a disappointment for Gray's family as well.

 

[Bardox]

Can't say I'm surprised. I'm honestly amazed it's gone as far as it has. Next we wait to see if there will be a retrial. Was the jury polled for the ratio of guilty vs not guilty? How many hold out there were? If it was between 1 and 4 then a retrial is worth a shot. If it goes up to half of the jury or more though... not so much.

 

[b.c.]

What do you mean by "amazed it's gone as far as it has"? Surely you cannot be suggesting that these officers should never have been charged or brought to trial.

 

[Bardox]

What do you mean by "amazed it's gone as far as it has"? Surely you cannot be suggesting that these officers should never have been charged or brought to trial.

Not what I meant. You've made the point yourself how rare it is for police to actually face charges. This sort of criminal activity by a cop/cops has historically been met with a cheap token victory for the public that means little to nothing and then people/family of the victims paid off or threatened in some manor to get them to shut up about it and act grateful that "change has finally come". I'm honestly surprised that there may actually be some level of... hmmm.. what's it called again?... Oh right. "justice" found before this series of cases are over.

 

[b.c.]

^ Thanks for the clarification. Yes, in Baltimore alone millions have been paid to families of victims along terms, PARTICULARLY restrictive in nature in comparison to other communities, designed to shut them up:

Investigation Reveals Baltimore Paid Millions in Police Brutality Settlements

Why 'it was only a matter of time' before Baltimore exploded

Baltimore settlements on police brutality more restrictive than in other cities

and recently paid another 6.4 million to the family of Freddie Gray:

Baltimore Board Approves $6.4 Million Settlement in Freddie Gray Death

And even if, as you say, some level of justice IS found by way of prosecution and conviction, chances are they will be overturned and/or delayed by the usual good old boy system of circuit court appeals.

But at LEAST they'll have had their "day in court"... which is more than we can say for Freddie Gray.

 

[b.c.]

No charges in fatal Ohio police shooting of Tamir Rice

 

[Bardox]

No charges in fatal Ohio police shooting of Tamir Rice

Again, not surprising. Different reason though. I don't really disagree with this one. Given the information the Cops had before hand, "There's a guy waving a gun and pointing it at people", I can't say they should have been charged. Not a popular view, I know.

 

[Klingsor]

Again, not surprising. Different reason though. I don't really disagree with this one. Given the information the Cops had before hand, "There's a guy waving a gun and pointing it at people", I can't say they should have been charged. Not a popular view, I know.

It seems to me the more important issue would be what they saw when they arrived and how they handled it. Whatever they offered in their defense, it couldn't have been the video, which looks like a drive-by.

 

[b.c.]

It seems to me the more important issue would be what they saw when they arrived and how they handled it. Whatever they offered in their defense, it couldn't have been the video, which looks like a drive-by.

I'd take that even further, Klingsor. The MOST important issue is that of the overall perception of black men in particular, by the general public as a whole and especially by cops... a perception that I've alluded to (on numerous occasions above) as that "presumption of guilt."

And contrary to what certain people here would argue, there have been studies on this as well:

The Real Reason Cops Thought Tamir Rice Was Older Than He Really Was


And it is this whole dynamic that explains not only the killing of Tamir Rice, but that of John Crawford III, Trayvon Martin, and the attack upon Sureshbhai Patel by Madison, Alabama cops, that resulted in his injury - among many other such encounters.

In each of these killings and attack, there existed some pre-determined presumption of guilt, either by the assailant(s) or individuals calling in. In Martin's case, he was followed, pursued, and confronted merely for being a black kid walking where his ASSAILANT had determined he didn't belong. Same for Patel, confronted by cops when someone (mistakenly) reported a black man walking in the neighborhood. WALKING, mind you.

In Crawford's case, he was shot down for playing with WalMart merchandise in the store... an air rifle. And then there's Tamir Rice, where the caller ACTUALLY STATED that the black person waving around what appeared to be a gun was probably a juvenile.

The PRIMARY question being, WHY wasn't that detail reported, one that might have made all the difference in the world as to how these cops might've responded?

Could it have been that where black people are concerned, the possibility of it being a KID is of NO MATTER? Would that little tidbit had been included by the dispatcher had it been a white kid? Would the call have been made at ALL?

There are those here who'd argue that we couldn't say. And that may be true. But what's also true is that I have a difficult time recalling the last time I heard of a Trayvon Martin, a John Crawford, or a Tamir Rice incident involving a white teen, or of an elderly white guy getting confronted by COPS and thrown to the ground for walking in a neighborhood.

Maybe it happened and I just MISSED them... maybe it hasn't. Or just MAYBE white guys don't play with toy guns or walk in strange neighborhoods.

 

[temptotalk]

I'd take that even further, Klingsor. The MOST important issue is that of the overall perception of black men in particular, by the general public as a whole and especially by cops... a perception that I've alluded to (on numerous occasions above) as that "presumption of guilt."

And contrary to what certain people here would argue, there have been studies on this as well:

The Real Reason Cops Thought Tamir Rice Was Older Than He Really Was


And it is this whole dynamic that explains not only the killing of Tamir Rice, but that of John Crawford III, Trayvon Martin, and the attack upon Sureshbhai Patel by Madison, Alabama cops, that resulted in his injury - among many other such encounters.

In each of these killings and attack, there existed some pre-determined presumption of guilt, either by the assailant(s) or individuals calling in. In Martin's case, he was followed, pursued, and confronted merely for being a black kid walking where his ASSAILANT had determined he didn't belong. Same for Patel, confronted by cops when someone (mistakenly) reported a black man walking in the neighborhood. WALKING, mind you.

In Crawford's case, he was shot down for playing with WalMart merchandise in the store... an air rifle. And then there's Tamir Rice, where the caller ACTUALLY STATED that the black person waving around what appeared to be a gun was probably a juvenile.

The PRIMARY question being, WHY wasn't that detail reported, one that might have made all the difference in the world as to how these cops might've responded?

Could it have been that where black people are concerned, the possibility of it being a KID is of NO MATTER? Would that little tidbit had been included by the dispatcher had it been a white kid? Would the call have been made at ALL?

There are those here who'd argue that we couldn't say. And that may be true. But what's also true is that I have a difficult time recalling the last time I heard of a Trayvon Martin, a John Crawford, or a Tamir Rice incident involving a white teen, or of an elderly white guy getting confronted by COPS and thrown to the ground for walking in a neighborhood.

Maybe it happened and I just MISSED them... maybe it hasn't. Or just MAYBE white guys don't play with toy guns or walk in strange neighborhoods.

Gotta say, on a site where penis size studies are debated until the cows come home it's actually funny how quite most are when studies are presented here. Ah who am i kidding i already know studies done to find reasons why race stuff happens is unimportant to some here. I wonder why that is...ha once again this i know

Cause even information on how to stop racism is...duh duh duhhhhhh unimportant.