Fighting men...

[whatireallywant]

I'm not particularly turned on by it, no... and I'd be afraid for him if he did that for a living. Plus, while it is probably true that most boxers leave the violence in the ring, I can't help but think of Mike Tyson and I certainly don't want someone like HIM! Yikes!!!

As for martial arts, I have some experience in that myself (not professionally or anything, just taking classes in Shaolin Do - I got up to a brown belt. I would've continued on and gotten my black belt but a few things conspired against me - For one thing, I was working full time and taking classes toward my computer degree while I was taking the Shaolin Do classes, and it got to be a bit too much for me. And another thing was that while the previous color belts were easy for me to get to, getting from blue belt to brown belt was hard for me because I'd missed some of the most important classes during the time I was a blue belt, because I had been in a car accident and got a concussion. And finally, there was someone who was a black belt, and went to the classes the nights that the brown/black belts met (which were different nights than the previous belts) who got on my nerves. And what's worse is that he couldn't help it! (he was developmentally disabled...) I actually felt guilty for being annoyed by him, but there it is. As for martial arts guys, I don't feel particularly turned on OR turned off by them as opposed to any other group of guys. Some I like, some I don't...

 

[Principessa]

I'm not into boxing; but I have watched my share of matches on tv and placed modest bets with family and friends.

Boxers are physically fit; what's not to like about that.

As for MMA I don't like it. To me it's just a way for 2 guys to beat the shit out of each other by any means possible. That's not attractive to me. :no: I would have serious doubts about the mental stability of a man that chose to do MMA for a living. To me that says he isn't smart enough to do anything else.

 

[Drifterwood]

.... were they indifferent, intrigued or disapproving? I am curious to know.

They were concerned that I would get hurt, but I think they understood what I said before, that it was something that I did for myself.

 

[CockinPussyLover]

I think it's totally hott! I like guys that can kick ass. I'm not a fan of boxing or MMA though. I find both somewhat boring, because boxing is all punching and in MMA they always end up grappling. Plus there seems to be too many big egos in MMA and it's a bit too trendy and seems like a fad that will run its course after awhile. I'm not sure I"d be too attracted to a boxer though, because they get a little too fucked up mentally and aesthetically from getting hit in the head and face too many times.
I love martial artists though. I do martial arts myself and enjoy watching it.
I disagree with the person who said combat sports aren't about violence. Of course they are, but so are explosions, car wrecks, action movies and most contact sports. Violence is a part of the world and a part of human nature and can be pretty damn fun and entertaining. The only problem with violence is that people get hurt by it sometimes. It's just a fact of the world. That doesn't mean there isn't an enjoyable element to it though. And the controlled violence found in combat and contact sports is good exercise and quite stress relieving and a good conduit for aggression.

To the OP, I agree with a lot of reasons your gf listed for liking the fact that you're a fighter. Knowing that a guy can handle himself in a fight is a huge turn on. And admittedly, the idea of a guy beating the shit out of someone is a big turn on for me, but of course I wouldn't want him to get hurt or in trouble or randomly start fights with people. Which is why combat sports are great! Plus they have really nice bodies. I also like very masculine men and agree that combat sports comes off as a very manly activity.
And just like others have already mentioned, men who do combat sports are just like everyone else. They generally aren't more aggressive or meaner than the average guy walking down the street, and I find that most are nicer and more grounded than a lot of people. And even if a guy is really aggressive by nature, having a controlled avenue in which to release that aggression can help him to manage it.

 

[D_Ivana Dickenside]

no, i don't need a guy who has to beat the shit out of another guy to prove his masculinity. i mean, i'm sure some of them are decent guys, but if they like being violent then they'd probably be violent with whomever they choose to date as well. look at mike tyson and his ex-wife, robin givens. i'm just sayin.

 

[CockinPussyLover]

no, i don't need a guy who has to beat the shit out of another guy to prove his masculinity. i mean, i'm sure some of them are decent guys, but if they like being violent then they'd probably be violent with whomever they choose to date as well. look at mike tyson and his ex-wife, robin givens. i'm just sayin.

sigh... this should be obvious, but I"ll point it out anyway. There are plenty of men who are wife/women beaters who are NOT into combat sports. There is no correlation between combat sports and wife beaters. Mike Tyson is just one douchebag who happens to be a boxer. Your generalization is ignorant and insulting to people who partake in these sports. And combat sports are just as much about control as they are about violence.

 

[D_Ivana Dickenside]

sigh... this should be obvious, but I"ll point it out anyway. There are plenty of men who are wife/women beaters who are NOT into combat sports. There is no correlation between combat sports and wife beaters. Mike Tyson is just one douchebag who happens to be a boxer. Your generalization is ignorant and insulting to people who partake in these sports. And combat sports are just as much about control as they are about violence.

dude, you asked a question and i gave you an answer. to say that i am ignorant and i like to insult people just shows how big of a hypocrite you are.

if you don't want to hear what i (as well as other people who responded) have to say, then why did you ask it?

 

[CockinPussyLover]

dude, you asked a question and i gave you an answer. to say that i am ignorant and i like to insult people just shows how big of a hypocrite you are.

if you don't want to hear what i (as well as other people who responded) have to say, then why did you ask it?

lol, what the hell are you talking about? I didn't ask you a question nor did I say I didn't want to hear your opinion. Stop trying to use arguments that make no sense and have no relevance to what I said. Reread the post and who said what, because you are clearly confused. Probably because you're getting super defensive because I called you out on that bullshit you just spouted. Your opinion is uninformed and ignorant. You are being insulting by making that generalization about people you don't know. Your opinion is entirely based on your own personal biases and on one person you heard about in the media. And I was just pointing out how dumb your assumptions are. Everyone may have an opinion, but some opinions are better informed than others and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And we're not even talking about how you "feel" about this issue, your statement implies that you believe what you think is a fact, that generalization of yours. And you are completely wrong about that.

 

[D_Ivana Dickenside]

i am through replying to mindless questions.

 

[voidout]

no, i don't need a guy who has to beat the shit out of another guy to prove his masculinity.

part of me totally agrees with this, and as i get older, the immaturity of a lot of my peers (most males) when it comes to so quickly picking up their fists instead of opening their mouths is boring and sometimes humorous, but mainly obnoxious.

They were concerned that I would get hurt, but I think they understood what I said before, that it was something that I did for myself.

however, the reason i answered "turn on" is partly because of this.

i think it's more of a fantasy type turn on for me...the movie/fairytale fantasy that we've all (most) liked as females from disney movies or...well...movies in general, at some point in our childhood/teens.

it's silly, but it's still there in the back of my mind.
perhaps as i grow older this appealing aspect of the fantasy will die.

sigh... this should be obvious, but I"ll point it out anyway. There are plenty of men who are wife/women beaters who are NOT into combat sports. There is no correlation between combat sports and wife beaters. Mike Tyson is just one douchebag who happens to be a boxer. Your generalization is ignorant and insulting to people who partake in these sports. And combat sports are just as much about control as they are about violence.

i agree. i think, though, that you have to realize it's a natural connection. you have to expect some women to feel that way, and it's perfectly fine. we all have our own judgments, or opinions, of people...this happens to be hers. i certainly don't think she's being ignorant or trying to be insulting. i think she's simply expressing how she feels about the topic.

 

[denton85]

innately, biologically, and through millions of years of evolution women SHOULD naturally feel more attracted to larger stronger men, who can fight and protect them....
the last hundred years (could be more, or less depending on the certain culture involved) society has taught us that anger, and violence is wrong in everyday society ... but is glorified at the same time in movies, video games, and sports. It's natural for women to feel aroused by larger stronger men, who can protect them if needed. (other factors can be applied as well like rearing, and personal experiences) So as time goes on, violence seems to get more and more taboo IN society, cause many women to look at violence as purely wrong, and immature as society now does.

I myself had battled anger issues ... once upon a time i was known as a "bully"... had gotten into quite a few fights in my more younger years (grade school to mid teens mostly. i personally understand the psych reasons for it)... It's rare for me now to EVER loose my temper now however ( years of anger suppression, and mental blocking). I've had people mention to me that they think i've never gotten angry in my life. (they obviously didn't know me during my more angry time period.)

In college i dormed with a marine in which we would spar often. (and we organized sparing matches with other people too) Never did i loose my temper... i found, and still see fighting techniques as an art that has become a dying breed. I practiced defensive fighting sparing. (pissed of my roommate cause he hated how will i literally deflected a punch... helps when you're 5'9" and have a wing span of 6'2") And of course i learned through some training how to be offensive. (however i never used them in sparing because it's frowned upon to punch and elbow to the neck, and other techniques)

You'd be surprised how often girls liked to watch these sparing sessions. I also think that alot of these girls liked to "patch up" too. (i had a few random girls i never met very willing to help stop a bleeding nose, or run and get something cold to put on a swollen area) With this, i think it's more about seeing a guy fighting, and then wanting to be there to help them recover too. I'm not sure really i'm not a girl i'll let girls respond to that...

I think i'm done ranting... lol

 

[CockinPussyLover]

i agree. i think, though, that you have to realize it's a natural connection. you have to expect some women to feel that way, and it's perfectly fine. we all have our own judgments, or opinions, of people...this happens to be hers. i certainly don't think she's being ignorant or trying to be insulting. i think she's simply expressing how she feels about the topic.

Her intention might not have been to be insulting, but it was. And her opinion is born of ignorance. She can express how she feels all she wants, but I have a right to do the same. And she's basically making a very negative generalization about people I know and that's not something I'm going to let slide.

 

[voidout]

Her intention might not have been to be insulting, but it was. And her opinion is born of ignorance. She can express how she feels all she wants, but I have a right to do the same. And she's basically making a very negative generalization about people I know and that's not something I'm going to let slide.

taking an opinion from one person in an online forum as a personal attack to the people you know is fairly immature.

yes, you have a right to your opinion, but you did not have to insult her because you disagree. it's not like she said "men who fight can't have children." the response she made is not so far fetched, and that side of the argument was bound to come up.

 

[Attila the Hung]

I think it's totally hott! I like guys that can kick ass. I'm not a fan of boxing or MMA though. I find both somewhat boring, because boxing is all punching and in MMA they always end up grappling. Plus there seems to be too many big egos in MMA and it's a bit too trendy and seems like a fad that will run its course after awhile. I'm not sure I"d be too attracted to a boxer though, because they get a little too fucked up mentally and aesthetically from getting hit in the head and face too many times.
I love martial artists though. I do martial arts myself and enjoy watching it.
I disagree with the person who said combat sports aren't about violence. Of course they are, but so are explosions, car wrecks, action movies and most contact sports. Violence is a part of the world and a part of human nature and can be pretty damn fun and entertaining. The only problem with violence is that people get hurt by it sometimes. It's just a fact of the world. That doesn't mean there isn't an enjoyable element to it though. And the controlled violence found in combat and contact sports is good exercise and quite stress relieving and a good conduit for aggression.

To the OP, I agree with a lot of reasons your gf listed for liking the fact that you're a fighter. Knowing that a guy can handle himself in a fight is a huge turn on. And admittedly, the idea of a guy beating the shit out of someone is a big turn on for me, but of course I wouldn't want him to get hurt or in trouble or randomly start fights with people. Which is why combat sports are great! Plus they have really nice bodies. I also like very masculine men and agree that combat sports comes off as a very manly activity.
And just like others have already mentioned, men who do combat sports are just like everyone else. They generally aren't more aggressive or meaner than the average guy walking down the street, and I find that most are nicer and more grounded than a lot of people. And even if a guy is really aggressive by nature, having a controlled avenue in which to release that aggression can help him to manage it.

Good post there CockinPussyLover, agree with pretty much everything you said except for the part I highlighted in bold. Not all boxers end up being punchy or disfigured after they hang up the gloves, and those of us that box purely to stay in shape and spar in the gym don`t often end up being punchy when all is said and done. Pro boxers however often do end up that way sadly, but that is due to many reasons of which I won`t go into detail here as it is off topic.

 

[Attila the Hung]

innately, biologically, and through millions of years of evolution women SHOULD naturally feel more attracted to larger stronger men, who can fight and protect them....
the last hundred years (could be more, or less depending on the certain culture involved) society has taught us that anger, and violence is wrong in everyday society ... but is glorified at the same time in movies, video games, and sports. It's natural for women to feel aroused by larger stronger men, who can protect them if needed. (other factors can be applied as well like rearing, and personal experiences) So as time goes on, violence seems to get more and more taboo IN society, cause many women to look at violence as purely wrong, and immature as society now does.

I myself had battled anger issues ... once upon a time i was known as a "bully"... had gotten into quite a few fights in my more younger years (grade school to mid teens mostly. i personally understand the psych reasons for it)... It's rare for me now to EVER loose my temper now however ( years of anger suppression, and mental blocking). I've had people mention to me that they think i've never gotten angry in my life. (they obviously didn't know me during my more angry time period.)

In college i dormed with a marine in which we would spar often. (and we organized sparing matches with other people too) Never did i loose my temper... i found, and still see fighting techniques as an art that has become a dying breed. I practiced defensive fighting sparing. (pissed of my roommate cause he hated how will i literally deflected a punch... helps when you're 5'9" and have a wing span of 6'2") And of course i learned through some training how to be offensive. (however i never used them in sparing because it's frowned upon to punch and elbow to the neck, and other techniques)

You'd be surprised how often girls liked to watch these sparing sessions. I also think that alot of these girls liked to "patch up" too. (i had a few random girls i never met very willing to help stop a bleeding nose, or run and get something cold to put on a swollen area) With this, i think it's more about seeing a guy fighting, and then wanting to be there to help them recover too. I'm not sure really i'm not a girl i'll let girls respond to that...

I think i'm done ranting... lol

Good post, thanks for your input.

 

[Attila the Hung]

no, i don't need a guy who has to beat the shit out of another guy to prove his masculinity. i mean, i'm sure some of them are decent guys, but if they like being violent then they'd probably be violent with whomever they choose to date as well. look at mike tyson and his ex-wife, robin givens. i'm just sayin.

Whoa!!! There is so much wring with this post I don`t even know where to begin, thankfully cockandpussylover already had a go at it and said pretty much what I would have said. To assume that most folks who box out of love for the sport and its history are some violent degenerates is very insulting not to mention way off base.

I didn`t box so that I could beat the shit as you put it out of other men, I boxed because I love the competition and the training that goes with boxing, the shared bond I have with my fellow gymmates and the camaradery that comes with fighting each other to better ourselves as both fighters and men so that we can be the best we can be both in and out of the ring.

Sure, at its core fighting is violent, but what about the years and endless hours we spend in traning to perfect our footwork for example, or to practice our combinations and our defence, these are skills that have to be honed and practiced day in and day out, so its not all about just walking towards your opponent and raining blows on one another, competitive fighting is about so much more than just that.

Anyway, rant over.

 

[TheRob]

I think that women probably like men who can either win or can pick themselves up and dust them themselves off again. You don't have to go into a boxing ring to prove that.

going into a boxing ring isn't about proving yourself to other people either

 

[TheRob]

Punching someone in the head is violence whether it's on the street or in a ring. I don't like violence of any kind, even the sporting kind.

cracking something with a club is violence to, doyou dislike baseball?

 

[TheRob]

I'm not into boxing; but I have watched my share of matches on tv and placed modest bets with family and friends.

Boxers are physically fit; what's not to like about that.

As for MMA I don't like it. To me it's just a way for 2 guys to beat the shit out of each other by any means possible. That's not attractive to me. :no: I would have serious doubts about the mental stability of a man that chose to do MMA for a living. To me that says he isn't smart enough to do anything else.

well, ignorance has long been a hallmark of your posts so ....

 

[TheRob]

no, i don't need a guy who has to beat the shit out of another guy to prove his masculinity. i mean, i'm sure some of them are decent guys, but if they like being violent then they'd probably be violent with whomever they choose to date as well. look at mike tyson and his ex-wife, robin givens. i'm just sayin.

lol first of all if you knew anything about Robin Givens you'd be in a line waiting your turn at kicking her ass
second your post is PURE bullshit
you know NOTHING about Boxing or MMA yet you feel free to judge both
honestly your post that I quoted is at least as bad as a post from a man talking about who women think when he has no experience with talking to women...
do you honestly think, that with million dollar contracts out there, people get into Combative Sports to "prove what a man they are" ? Is that the limit of your intelligence? Do you think Accountants go to school to prove how bright they are? You are aware that people need to make money to survive in most cultures yes?