Finally a parent is held accountable

[B_Nick4444]

oh, wow! he's back!

 

[marleyisalegend]

Hearing about a case like this makes me defensive not proactive.Any fool that thinks they can put me in a cage because my kid fucked up is sadly mistaken.

if you raise your kid right, they're less likely to fuck up. there's a general correlation between proactive parents and successful children. think less about yourself and more about parents who bail their kids outta jail time after time instead of letting them sit for awhile and learn their lesson. i'm not suggesting we lock every parent up, but let's start holding people accountable for the lives they produce, is that too much to ask??

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

the state doesnt have this right though

 

[FuzzyKen]

What I find a wee bit perplexing here is that I do not think that any of us have the whole story. I am watching a similar situation in a branch of my own family. We have two parents who just don't seem to get it. We now have a 19 year old girl who simply just disappeared from the school system and nobody within that school system has ever has done an audit to see what happened.

This girl has some learning problems and some social ones as well. She sits home, eats, sleeps, plays video games and on the computer. Her one accomplishment is gaining weight. She is incapable of making change, cannot deal with the lowest level of math to even balance a check book and has absolutely zero hope for a decent future. The parents go to their respective jobs and simply ignore where this is going. The mom is a great person but is suffering from congestive heart failure and other medical problems while still working.

This seems a little extreme to me, but again I am wondering what the father has to do with his daughters lack of scholastic success.

Is there some evidence that was presented in court to be able to get this kind of verdict at a trial? This would be an interesting Law Study to be certain.

 

[marleyisalegend]

in this specific case, the father initially (or at some point) had custody of the girl and for reasons unspecified, they ended up in court and he was ruled by a judge to make sure she completes her ged. he had a contract with the judge. if a judge tells me make sure your daughter graduates, i wouldn't send her to her mother but even if i did i'm still calling everyday to make sure homework's done and studying is being finished before she leaves the house.

 

[D_Ed69s girl]

if you raise your kid right, they're less likely to fuck up. there's a general correlation between proactive parents and successful children. think less about yourself and more about parents who bail their kids outta jail time after time instead of letting them sit for awhile and learn their lesson. i'm not suggesting we lock every parent up, but let's start holding people accountable for the lives they produce, is that too much to ask??

I see you are not a father or a parent of anything but blind ignorance. I am an educator and a parent of a teenage daughter. And the thing is I see proactive parents with their head hung low and wondering were did they go wrong. When their child drops out of school or gets pregnant. This judge need to be put in jail for putting a father who did what he could to help his child and she failed to get her GED. Did you really read the whole story because even the daughter agrees her father is not to blame for her failure. I have a co worker who is crying the blues right now because she tried everything to help her son get his GED but he sit around at 20 years old without a job or a diploma because HE DOESN'T CARE. It was only when she had enough and threaten to kick him out that he is now finally working toward getting it. She did everything but sit with him in his classes to try and help him out but nothing work. Now is she a proactive parent or a deadbeat who doesn't give a shit. It is a crying shame that a judge would pass such a stupid sentence on a man who cares for his child.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

his daughter might be stupid you know. man was made but from clay

 

[D_Ed69s girl]

in this specific case, the father initially (or at some point) had custody of the girl and for reasons unspecified, they ended up in court and he was ruled by a judge to make sure she completes her ged. he had a contract with the judge. if a judge tells me make sure your daughter graduates, i wouldn't send her to her mother but even if i did i'm still calling everyday to make sure homework's done and studying is being finished before she leaves the house.

THERE IS WERE THE JUDGE MADE HIS FIRST ERROR. I have never heard a state have a law that states that it is the parent responsibility to make sure his/her child recieve a ged or diploma. Most states say a parent has to provide food and shelter but not an education.

 

[marleyisalegend]

I see you are not a father or a parent of anything but blind ignorance. I am an educator and a parent of a teenage daughter. And the thing is I see proactive parents with their head hung low and wondering were did they go wrong. When their child drops out of school or gets pregnant. This judge need to be put in jail for putting a father who did what he could to help his child and she failed to get her GED. Did you really read the whole story because even the daughter agrees her father is not to blame for her failure. I have a co worker who is crying the blues right now because she tried everything to help her son get his GED but he sit around at 20 years old without a job or a diploma because HE DOESN'T CARE. It was only when she had enough and threaten to kick him out that he is now finally working toward getting it. She did everything but sit with him in his classes to try and help him out but nothing work. Now is she a proactive parent or a deadbeat who doesn't give a shit. It is a crying shame that a judge would pass such a stupid sentence on a man who cares for his child.

your comment was totally uncalled for and your position is entirely one-sided. believe it or not, ther are more truths than your own. obviously, some kids are out of control, but you're ignoring the fact that there are many who simply need their PARENT WHO BROUGHT THEM INTO THIS WORLD to keep a close eye on them. every child that's lost isn't a lost cause, some are the product of parents who didn't, well, parent. did you not read at all my story about someone i know who constantly commits felonies and his parents keep bailing him out of jail. you're obviously ignorant of child neglect in this country because you speak as if every single fucking parent does an A+ job in raising their child. i said myself that this case isn't really akin to the argument because she wasn't even living with the father, but obviously your anger is causing you to type faster than you read because you've GROSSLY misunderstood my posts. if you're going to respond, please take the time to read what i'm saying instead of responding in a disrespectful spur-of-the-moment rant.

 

[marleyisalegend]

THERE IS WERE THE JUDGE MADE HIS FIRST ERROR. I have never heard a state have a law that states that it is the parent responsibility to make sure his/her child recieve a ged or diploma. Most states say a parent has to provide food and shelter but not an education.

is an education not TWICE as necessary?? has anybody ever heard parable about teaching a man to fish?? if all you do is feed a kid and shelter it, how are they supposed to know how to do so for themselves?? with the large amount of dropouts in this country, there are many places that can receive blame, but keep in mind a teacher has a kid for an hour a day for half the year, a parent has a kid for 18 years. i think you guys are being so defensive towards the dad that you're completely ignoring parents who don't effectively raise their children. this is a discussion and it's okay to make references to other situations than the one in the OP.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

i think you have too high a view of the law and court system in this country

 

[SandraSmithCarver]

When I read some of the statistics for youth crime, drop-out rates, etc.. I wonder where the parents are. Obviously some kids are out of control, but here's a story about a father who was jailed because his daughter didn't earn her diploma equivalent. In this case, the girl wasn't living with her father so his imprisonment may not have been warranted. He was, however, ordered months prior to make sure she completes it. In general, it seems that some states are starting to hold parents accountable for their children's delinquency.

Dad jailed after daughter fails to get diploma - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

Jail is way too harsh and exsessive, but it is the parents fault-sorry. im a parent (2 just ended there freshman year at college) my children knew from the time they were first graders that dropping out of high school and not getting secondary education wasn't acceptable with there father and I. There dad was college educated with 2 degrees, I have an associates. when the time came for college, they were nervous and scared, but they knew if they didn't go to college, they could look forward to a career as a manager someplace like an electronics store or fast food joint. I just stated the facts, since we are divorced, they got lots of help with grants. scholarships and loans. theres no excuse, its just sad with so many single family homes, the father sometimes isn't around, and that makes it hard on the mom.

 

[D_Ed69s girl]

your comment was totally uncalled for and your position is entirely one-sided. believe it or not, ther are more truths than your own. obviously, some kids are out of control, but you're ignoring the fact that there are many who simply need their PARENT WHO BROUGHT THEM INTO THIS WORLD to keep a close eye on them. every child that's lost isn't a lost cause, some are the product of parents who didn't, well, parent. did you not read at all my story about someone i know who constantly commits felonies and his parents keep bailing him out of jail. you're obviously ignorant of child neglect in this country because you speak as if every single fucking parent does an A+ job in raising their child. i said myself that this case isn't really akin to the argument because she wasn't even living with the father, but obviously your anger is causing you to type faster than you read because you've GROSSLY misunderstood my posts. if you're going to respond, please take the time to read what i'm saying instead of responding in a disrespectful spur-of-the-moment rant.

who is the one ranting. I don't think you read anything I said. At least I took the time to read the entire article of your original post before giving my view of your post. As far as your felony friend I didn't read that far. I responded to your response to my husband because I felt you needed to hear the opinoin of an educator.

 

[marleyisalegend]

Jail is way too harsh and exsessive, but it is the parents fault-sorry. im a parent (2 just ended there freshman year at college) my children knew from the time they were first graders that dropping out of high school and not getting secondary education wasn't acceptable with there father and I. There dad was college educated with 2 degrees, I have an associates. when the time came for college, they were nervous and scared, but they knew if they didn't go to college, they could look forward to a career as a manager someplace like an electronics store or fast food joint. I just stated the facts, since we are divorced, they got lots of help with grants. scholarships and loans. theres no excuse, its just sad with so many single family homes, the father sometimes isn't around, and that makes it hard on the mom.

fucking finally, somebody who has a sense of responsibility on the parents part. i'm not saying every fucked up kid comes from bad parenting, but don't some?? i don't get what's wrong with DEMANDING that parents make sure their kids get educated, this is a GRAY NOT BLACK AND WHITE ARGUMENT PEOPLE. killing someone is wrong but we make exceptions if it's self defense. parents of dropouts should be punished (though jail is a bit harsh) IF IT'S PROVEN THAT THE PARENTS WERE NOT ADEQUATELY ENFORCING EDUCATION.

in addition to this, we do need to offer alternatives for youth. growing up, many of my friends got into trouble and gangs because there was nothing else to do. no ymca to sign up for, no park to go to, kids need healthy alternatives and programs to keep them occupied or before long they're at basement parties having sex, abusing drugs, and going out committing crimes. if we're not accountable for raising our children, why not just leave them out of the house and give them a key so they can come back when they need food?? i'm not arguing AGAINST parents, i'm arguing against parents who let their kids do what they want.

 

[THEDUDEofDestiny]

i dont think marley has finished high school

 

[marleyisalegend]

i dont think marley has finished high school

that's a really rude personal attack that i'm glad was directed to me since i'm used to it. i've been made fun of for my skin color, my sexuality, being molested by a cousin, you've spoken about my parents and now you're addressing my education. i've got a mole on the left side of my nose that no one has ridiculed yet, and if i don't trim them everyday my nose-hairs grow wild and unruly. anything else you wanna comment on that has nothing to do with the article??

i'd comment on you but you're pretty much anonymous, your avatar isn't a pic of you and your profile has no information, what have you got to hide??

 

[D_Ed69s girl]

is an education not TWICE as necessary?? has anybody ever heard parable about teaching a man to fish?? if all you do is feed a kid and shelter it, how are they supposed to know how to do so for themselves?? with the large amount of dropouts in this country, there are many places that can receive blame, but keep in mind a teacher has a kid for an hour a day for half the year, a parent has a kid for 18 years. i think you guys are being so defensive towards the dad that you're completely ignoring parents who don't effectively raise their children. this is a discussion and it's okay to make references to other situations than the one in the OP.

Were do you go to school. An average school day were I am is 6 hours a day for nine months. Some children attend a preschool/daycare at the age of 2 years old were they spend 8 to 10 hours with a teacher. Now by my math that means that they are in some sort of school for sixteen years. Parents of the children I teach constantly speak with me to see how their child doing in school. The most interesting cases are kids of divorce parents. I spend probably two to three hours a day speaking with parents. Sure I have a few parents who don't care and I try to get them invovled but it doesn't mean that the kids are going to be law breakers. Ever heard the saying it takes a village to raise a child.

 

[marleyisalegend]

Were do you go to school. An average school day were I am is 6 hours a day for nine months. Some children attend a preschool/daycare at the age of 2 years old were they spend 8 to 10 hours with a teacher. Now by my math that means that they are in some sort of school for sixteen years. Parents of the children I teach constantly speak with me to see how their child doing in school. The most interesting cases are kids of divorce parents. I spend probably two to three hours a day speaking with parents. Sure I have a few parents who don't care and I try to get them invovled but it doesn't mean that the kids are going to be law breakers. Ever heard the saying it takes a village to raise a child.

sure, all i'm asking you to consider is parental responsibility. i in no way endorse throwing every dropout's parents in jail, but somewhere a line needs to be drawn that says x parents aren't involved enough in their child's education. at some point there is a such thing as neglecting enforcing education.

 

[Bbucko]

May I please make the suggestion (without it being taken as a personal attack) that anyone decrying the lack of literacy and educational standards in the US should at least make it a point to capitalize the first word in each new sentence?

 

[marleyisalegend]

May I please make the suggestion (without it being taken as a personal attack) that anyone decrying the lack of literacy and educational standards in the US should at least make it a point to capitalize the first word in each new sentence?

this isn't english class or the ny times, it's a website about big penises. no offense but when i post here the ruled of the english language aren't the first thing on my mind.