First shots fired in republican plans to defund public schools

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

Building Federal Highways is not an enumerated power of the Constitution. But we build them. What a ridiculous argument.

Guess what?

I am thinking the Federal .gov shouldn't be in the road building business either.

 

[Industrialsize]

Guess what?

I am thinking the Federal .gov shouldn't be in the road building business either.

Move to Somalia. There is no federal government. You'll be very happy.

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

Move to Somalia. There is no federal government. You'll be very happy.

Why move to Somalia?

Under Obama, Somalia, Syria, and other Third World Shitholes were moving here.

 

[Liberaltexan]

If you look at the break down of public education/public infrastructure as the goal of our current government (notice I do not say Republicans). The workforce that they will need to keep their industry going will not be available, generations of less than adequate education plus poorly feed brains yields incompetence.

 

[Industrialsize]

Why move to Somalia?

Under Obama, Somalia, Syria, and other Third World Shitholes were moving here.

Citations or its just you making shit up. Refugees do not count.

 

[Klingsor]

If you look at the break down of public education/public infrastructure as the goal of our current government (notice I do not say Republicans). The workforce that they will need to keep their industry going will not be available, generations of less than adequate education plus poorly feed brains yields incompetence.

It's already happened. Look who's president.

 

[tripod]

No Hungry Kids Act - The bill repeals a specified rule that established certain nutrition standards for the national school lunch and breakfast programs. (In general, the rule requires schools to increase the availability of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat or fat free milk in school meals; reduce the levels of sodium, saturated fat, and trans fat in school meals; and meet children's nutritional needs within their caloric requirements.)

Actually the kids would be better off NOT eating a low fat & high carb diet diet. Those diets lead to obesity by being extremely high in glycemic index... saturated fat is PERFECTLY FINE for children to eat... the Hungry Kids Act actually does more harm than good.

It relies on the nutrition information from the '90s... we know much more about the proper human diet today. This is the kind of diet you would put an adult with heart disease on... it's ridiculous. Our brains are made of cholesterol... saturated fat is completely necessary and is the building blocks of life.

Replace empty starches with whole grains... fruits and vegetables are nice and I've never been in a school that didn't have fruits and vegetables... they are cheap and most schools have plenty of them.

This "Act" could go bye bye tomorrow and the kids won't suffer a bit as a result... might even get a little healthier. A high carb and low fat diet leads straight to Type-2 diabetes for many kids with "metabolic syndrome-ready" genes. This diet just makes the chubby kids fat and the fat kids even fatter.

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[ActionBuddy]

Better than nothing.

 

[Industrialsize]

Actually the kids would be better off NOT eating a low fat & high carb diet diet. Those diets lead to obesity by being extremely high in glycemic index... saturated fat is PERFECTLY FINE for children to eat... the Hungry Kids Act actually does more harm than good.

It relies on the nutrition information from the '90s... we know much more about the proper human diet today. This is the kind of diet you would put an adult with heart disease on... it's ridiculous. Our brains are made of cholesterol... saturated fat is completely necessary and is the building blocks of life.

Replace empty starches with whole grains... fruits and vegetables are nice and I've never been in a school that didn't have fruits and vegetables... they are cheap and most schools have plenty of them.

This "Act" could go bye bye tomorrow and the kids won't suffer a bit as a result... might even get a little healthier. A high carb and low fat diet leads straight to Type-2 diabetes for many kids with "metabolic syndrome-ready" genes. This diet just makes the chubby kids fat and the fat kids even fatter.

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And your degree in nutrition is from what institution?

 

[Liberaltexan]

Exactly!

 

[tripod]

And your degree in nutrition is from what institution?

Listen... nutrition is not rocket science... it doesn't even require a degree to understand properly.

I operate professionally as a musician, engineer, technician, editor and producer without a degree. I am self taught in everything that I do.

I obviously learned a great deal on my own... there was some instruction... a small handful of classes but a TON of books.

Your body requires that you at least have a cursory understanding of nutrition... wouldn't you agree that you would have an health advantage the more nutrition knowledge that you have? Nutrition is actually quite simple... you don't need a degree to have a deep understanding of it... it's not rocket science.

And it doesn't matter anyway... your argument that I can't make sense when it comes to nutrition without a degree is AN ARGUMENT FROM AUTHORITY which is a LOGICAL FALLACY.

"An integral part of the appeal to authority is the cognitive bias known as the Asch effect.[22] In repeated and modified instances of the Asch conformity experiments, it was found that high-status individuals create a stronger likelihood of a subject agreeing with an obviously false conclusion, despite the subject normally being able to clearly see that the answer was incorrect.[29]

Further, humans have been shown to feel strong emotional pressure to conform to authorities and majority positions. A repeat of the experiments by another group of researchers found that "Participants reported considerable distress under the group pressure", with 59% conforming at least once and agreeing with the clearly incorrect answer, whereas the incorrect answer was much more rarely given when no such pressures were present"

If you feel like you have the ability to test my nutritional knowledge... go right ahead...but if you don't... Shut The Fuck Up before I bury you with studies supporting my hypothesis... subsequently making you look like a fool.

 

[Industrialsize]

Listen... nutrition is not rocket science... it doesn't even require a degree to understand properly.

I operate professionally as a musician, engineer, technician, editor and producer without a degree. I am self taught in everything that I do.

I obviously learned a great deal on my own... there was some instruction... a small handful of classes but a TON of books.

Your body requires that you at least have a cursory understanding of nutrition... wouldn't you agree that you would have an health advantage the more nutrition knowledge that you have? Nutrition is actually quite simple... you don't need a degree to have a deep understanding of it... it's not rocket science.

And it doesn't matter anyway... your argument that I can't make sense when it comes to nutrition without a degree is AN ARGUMENT FROM AUTHORITY which is a LOGICAL FALLACY.

"An integral part of the appeal to authority is the cognitive bias known as the Asch effect.[22] In repeated and modified instances of the Asch conformity experiments, it was found that high-status individuals create a stronger likelihood of a subject agreeing with an obviously false conclusion, despite the subject normally being able to clearly see that the answer was incorrect.[29]

Further, humans have been shown to feel strong emotional pressure to conform to authorities and majority positions. A repeat of the experiments by another group of researchers found that "Participants reported considerable distress under the group pressure", with 59% conforming at least once and agreeing with the clearly incorrect answer, whereas the incorrect answer was much more rarely given when no such pressures were present"

If you feel like you have the ability to test my nutritional knowledge... go right ahead...but if you don't... Shut The Fuck Up before I bury you with studies supporting my hypothesis... subsequently making you look like a fool.

Actually it is a lot like rocket science:
The doctoral program in human nutrition (PhD or ScD) is designed to train professionals to identify, understand, and solve, through scientific methods, problems of public health importance in human nutrition. Graduates are expected to assume leadership roles in academia, government, industry, or other private-sector enterprises. They will be expected to advance knowledge in human nutrition through research, and advocate the application of such knowledge through public health policies and programs.

The doctoral program has five goals, which relate to the specific competencies expected of graduates. Graduates should

• understand the biochemical, molecular, epidemiological, and behavioral fundamentals of human nutritional science
• comprehend the complex interrelationships between food-and-nutrition and health-and-disease in diverse populations
• master quantitative and qualitative analytic skills required to understand, critically evaluate, and conduct nutrition research
• be able to integrate ethical principles and standards into the conduct of human research
• develop the professional skills necessary to communicate effectively.

http://www.jhsph.edu/research/cente...-for-human-nutrition/academics/doctorate.html

But you go ahead.

 

[tripod]

Actually it is a lot like rocket science

Actually it's not and your argument that you can get a doctoral degree in nutrition doesn't actually support your assertion.

You NEED a bare minimum of nutrition knowledge to operate your body properly and to live on this planet... the more the better. You don't need any Aerospace Engineering in order to live on this planet. Aerospace engineering isn't taught in any respect in primary or secondary education (nutrition IS)... human beings don't have any connection to rocket science unless they pursue it and study it.

Humans have to plan a diet or at least acknowledge that they are eating nutrients every day... we actively participate in nutrition every time we fuel our bodies.

You didn't shut the fuck up, but kept up with the trolling of my posts... I said I would bury you with studies... and here is my salvo.

An aggregate of 23 Studies on how low fat diets are BAD for you

 

[deleted15807]

Guess what?

I am thinking the Federal .gov shouldn't be in the road building business either.

Ahh we should be a backwards country where each little power structure gets to dictate what is good for it and not for the unit as a whole. And what business would want to do business with each road in each state having various standards and capabilities, some tolls some not. You do understand the benefit of interstate commerce which would be impossible without federal standards and guidelines and infrastructure.

 

[Industrialsize]

Actually it's not and your argument that you can get a doctoral degree in nutrition doesn't actually support your assertion.

You NEED a bare minimum of nutrition knowledge to operate your body properly and to live on this planet... the more the better. You don't need any Aerospace Engineering in order to live on this planet. Aerospace engineering isn't taught in any respect in primary or secondary education (nutrition IS)... human beings don't have any connection to rocket science unless they pursue it and study it.

Humans have to plan a diet or at least acknowledge that they are eating nutrients every day... we actively participate in nutrition every time we fuel our bodies.

You didn't shut the fuck up, but kept up with the trolling of my posts... I said I would bury you with studies... and here is my salvo.

An aggregate of 23 Studies on how low fat diets are BAD for you

You don't know the first thing about nutrition.When studying nutrition, the first thing you learn is the Kreb's Cycle. Care to expound?

 

[BULLDOG00]

You don't know the first thing about nutrition.When studying nutrition, the first thing you learn is the Kreb's Cycle. Care to expound?

We need a nutrition test to settle this. You are good at tests, right Industrialsize?

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

Ahh we should be a backwards country where each little power structure gets to dictate what is good for it and not for the unit as a whole. And what business would want to do business with each road in each state having various standards and capabilities, some tolls some not. You do understand the benefit of interstate commerce which would be impossible without federal standards and guidelines and infrastructure.

The interstate commerce clause needs to get fucked too.

 

[deleted15807]

The interstate commerce clause needs to get fucked too.

And that about describes the world you want to live in but not me. Hasta Lavista. Somalia does sound like paradise for you.

 

[deleted37010]

The interstate commerce clause needs to get fucked too.

“The sole purpose for which Virginia initiated the movement which ultimately produced the Constitution was ‘to take into consideration the trade of the United States; to examine the relative situations and trade of the said states; to consider how far a uniform system in their commercial regulation may be necessary to their common interest and their permanent harmony.’…The desire of the Forefathers to federalize regulation of foreign and interstate commerce stands in sharp contrast to their jealous preservation of power over their internal affairs. No other federal power was so universally assumed to be necessary, no other state power so readily relinquished.”
Justice Robert H. Jackson
H.P. Hood & Sons v. Du Mond, 336 U.S. 525 (1949)

 

[W/In 1 Stand Dev]

Industrialize, when you can calculate the 6 classical orbital elements of a satellite by hand...only then can you legitimately compare nutrition to rocket science.

Which you'll find are not similar at all.

Apples and oranges.

The food pyramid from the 1970's, which I was subsequently taught in health classes in the 1980's was completely 100% opposite of what we should be having as a diet.