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I really don't care how other people's kids get fed or don't get fed as long as it is not with my tax dollars.
One doesn't need a rote memorization of cellular respiration to know that a low fat/high carb diet is unhealthy... your counter argument isn't actually an argument but merely aggressive taunting... it's more of that "Appeal to Authority" you trotted out earlier.
Your supposition that a rote memorization of the Kreb's Cycle would validate or invalidate (a very widely accepted hypothesis) that a high carb low fat diet is unhealthy... is extremely illogical.
23 studies that a low fat/high carb diet is unhealthy is actually what you have to argue against... but you can't and so you'd rather harp on logical fallacies instead. Nice, stay classy.
Precisely!
... and written by someone with an understanding of both nutrition and rocket science. I couldn't even get through Trigonometry without a tutor... calculus was out of the question for me.
That's not the point... the point is that some fixes make things worse and it's better to undo the bad fixes than it is to continue to implement a solution that exacerbates the problem.
Both cross-sectional and longitudinal data from this study provide strong evidence that higher rates of participation in school breakfast programs are associated in the short-term with improved student functioning on a broad range of psychosocial and academic measures.
The relationship of school breakfast to psychosocial and academic functioning: cross-sectional and longitudinal observations in an inner-city school sample.
Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 1998 Sep;152(9):899-907.
Murphy JM, Pagano ME, Nachmani J, Sperling P, Kane S, Kleinman RE.
Massachusetts General Hospital and the Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston 02114, USA.
additional supporting studies
Nutrition
Increase in nutritional intake (Gordon, Devaney, & Burghardt, 1995)
Decrease in daily intake of fat as a percentage of calories (Dwyer, et al., 1998)
Decrease in stomachaches and headaches (Rosales & Janowski, 2002)
Decrease in obesity and blood cholesterol levels (Nicklas, Baranowski, Cullen, & Berenson, 2001)
Decrease in risk for cardiovascular disease (Nicklas, Elkasabany, Srinivasan, & Berenson, 2001)
School performance
Increase in cognitive function and school performance (Pollitt & Mathews, 1998)
Increase in attention spans (Simeon & Grantham-McGregor, 1989)
Decrease in discipline problems (Murphy, Wehler, Pagano, Little, Kleinman, & Jellinek, 1998)
Decrease in absenteeism and tardiness (Meyers, Sampson, Weitzman, Rogers, & Kayne, 1989)
additionally... ask a few teachers
i taught behavior disorders in the public school system for over a decade....first question i'd ask a kid in crisis... "did you eat?"..... feeding a kid is often the easiest way to prevent or reduce problem behaviors
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All for you, nothing for anyone else. I get it now. If you're poor. Tough. I am done with you.
Somebody else's kid's food and education should not be my problem and should definitely not pick my pocket to pay for either one.
Point to me in the Constitution where raising somebody else's kid or at least footing part of the bill is supposed to be my problem?
I grew up poor.
First grew up in apartments that became Section 8.
Moved to other apartments that were not Section 8.
Then after my pothead/alcoholic brother basically killed himself stepping out in traffic, we moved to the trailer park.
I stayed in school.
I didn't do drugs.
My grandparents would hook my mom up with government cheese and butter.
I soloed in gliders when I was 16.
I soloed in Cessnas when I was 17.
All thanks to Civil Air Patrol.
I bootstrapped myself into an appointment and a Congressional nomination to the Air Force Academy.
I graduated from there in 1994.
I didn't ask for a single hand out all through elementary, junior/senior high schools.
There was a time just few years ago where I didn't work a real job for an entire year. It sucked. Again, I didn't ask for a single handout: no welfare, no LINK card, no EBT.
The bank was getting ready to foreclose on my house.
I busted my ass and jumped through a lot of hoops to get my current job.
I was so far behind on bills that I claimed 99 on my W-4. I got caught up on my mortgage.
Because I claimed 99 for that year, that following April 15th, this is what I owed to the Feds:
Fuck me running!
16 large!?
YGTBSM!
For you socialists in this thread, if you're so hip on helping the under-privileged, nothing says you can't donate YOUR OWN money to cause that would help them.
Keep your hands out of my pockets to pay for other people's fuck trophies.
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So you grew up on government assistance and would now deny that same assistance for others. How kind of you.I grew up poor.
First grew up in apartments that became Section 8.
Moved to other apartments that were not Section 8.
Then after my pothead/alcoholic brother basically killed himself stepping out in traffic, we moved to the trailer park.
I stayed in school.
I didn't do drugs.
My grandparents would hook my mom up with government cheese and butter.
I soloed in gliders when I was 16.
I soloed in Cessnas when I was 17.
All thanks to Civil Air Patrol.
I bootstrapped myself into an appointment and a Congressional nomination to the Air Force Academy.
I graduated from there in 1994.
I didn't ask for a single hand out all through elementary, junior/senior high schools.
There was a time just few years ago where I didn't work a real job for an entire year. It sucked. Again, I didn't ask for a single handout: no welfare, no LINK card, no EBT.
The bank was getting ready to foreclose on my house.
I busted my ass and jumped through a lot of hoops to get my current job.
I was so far behind on bills that I claimed 99 on my W-4. I got caught up on my mortgage.
Because I claimed 99 for that year, that following April 15th, this is what I owed to the Feds:
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Fuck me running!
16 large!?
YGTBSM!
For you socialists in this thread, if you're so hip on helping the under-privileged, nothing says you can't donate YOUR OWN money to cause that would help them.
Keep your hands out of my pockets to pay for other people's fuck trophies.
No surprise. Behind every libertarian/conservative is rampant tribalism in/out group psychology at play. Even if groups working together achieve more. They would rather live in a cave huddled together in the dark.
you cite examples of receiving government assistance... perhaps they helped contribute to you being so successful?
and yet you still received government assistance (your words)
You really can't read, can you?
I said I grew up in apartments that became section 8.
Let me connect a dot for you....
Because my mom didn't like the scuzzy, low class people, who then started occupying these apartments under Section 8, she moved across town to another apartment that was not Section 8.
At no time was our rent subsidized by the US government.
I'll connect another dot for...
Civil Air Patrol sent me to Germany in the summer of 1989. I got to see communist East Germany and East Berlin in person before the Wall was torn down.
So for all you socialists yearning for Bigger Government and cradle to grave governmental caretaking, too bad. I have seen your utopia in person.
I want no part of it.
I actually earned money for that trip by picking up apples off the ground...on my hands and knees...at an orchard. I picked apples that weren't too far gone yet. I got paid by the bushel basket.
What I learned...especially when I was unemployed...hunger is a good motivator...
To get back to work and learn new skills.
If you want something, you better work for it.
If my mom was paying rent on an apartment, 100% out her own pocket, the cost of rent was X, and so much of X went to pay for real estate taxes, which then paid for schools in the district I lived in, did I then receive a "free" government handout?
would you deny your grandparents the government aid they received?
Now, no I would not deny them the aid.
They gave birth to my mother in 1937. That was still the Great Depression.
They probably thought nothing about taking a handout from the .gov in the 1970's and 1980's because of what they went through in the 30's.
To them at that time, that probably thought the world of FDR's socialist policies.
If I could transport my current adult self back in time to the 1970's or 1980's I would admonish my grandparents as a point of pride to NOT take the government cheese and butter.
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Wow... This thread went to shit, (and cheese and butter), real fast.
i respectfully submit that your grandparents were more concerned with you and your mother than they were with their pride...
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The question is, do you want millions of other kids to go through what you did, if it can be prevented?
Because like it or not, a large percentage of kids in circumstances like yours *don't* make it out--but end up in perpetual poverty, in lives of crime, or in prison--all of them drains on society.
You need to decide, from a purely practical standpoint, what sort of country you want to live in. And what can be done to make it happen.
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