Flashing a gay friend

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You guys who are slamming the straight guy for teasing his gay friend need to lighten up. Nothing wrong with some homo-erotic fun between friends - who better to mess around with. I'm sure the guy knows his friend well enough to read the situation and figured his friend would enjoy the show as much as he did giving it. And I'm sure the friend went home and jacked off too.
Maybe next time with the help of a few beers they can take it to the next level, but you gotta start somewhere. Then maybe the "straight" guy will have to broaden his definition of his own sexuality (80% straight?)

And for you guys who don't find this scenario very sexy, maybe you should broaden your own definition of what's "hot".

Just my HEHO, Homo Erotic Humble Opinion. ;-)

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Couldn't agree more with DILF... Well said.

I find the whole scenario REALLLLLLLLY hot. And have been in similar situations with "STR8" dudes... Under the circumstances, it allowed him to explore another side of his sexuality in a non-threatening way. Remember, he did ask his friend if he minded if he take his clothes off. His friend could have objected before the shirt came off. And what gay dude in his right mind would tell his str8 friend to keep his clothes on given the circumstances?

I agree that it would be completely inappropriate, if his friend had objected (but it doesn't sound like he did).
 

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This strikes so many chords with me. I have not had the proliferation of sexual experiences that I would expect most have had for someone my age, single and openly gay since my teens, but of those experiences, I would say about half have been with men who would identify as being straight. These have often taken place as an unpremeditated, unspoken exchange, often in the dark and invariably they have been instigated by my ‘straight’ counterpart. In the cold light of day the straight man is often unable to discuss the matter and may behave as though nothing ever happened, though it is never the case that we are incapable of maintaining a friendly relationship after the event. While the experience at the time is charged with tremendous excitement, the aftermath is usually confusing, frustrating and ultimately unrewarding on my part and I am left with many unanswered questions. I would guess that for him, this must also give rise to questions and uncertainty about his sexuality.

I have to agree with ledroit that this seems to be the norm for many men who think of themselves as straight. They enjoy the frisson of sexual tension that exists between two men that is heightened, and to some extent allowable, because one of them is explicitly gay. They revel in their own exhibitionism or the pride of being attractive to the other man and do not stop to consider the consequences of their actions either for themselves or their gay friend. In my case, not being obviously effeminate or conforming to a gay stereotype, perhaps they also feel more comfortable to explore an aspect of their sexuality because it doesn’t seem such a pansy thing to do.

If I am honest, neither do I care much for the consequences, at the time, because the intensity of the moment is so immediate; so all-consuming, and I must also accept my own responsibility in allowing these situations to develop. Though I might slightly resent feeling a little manipulated or taken for granted, nevertheless, I never wish the situation had not occurred. I might only regret that it had no future.

We can not know the full details of the OP’s story. We do not know whether Dave left feeling embarrassed, compromised and uncomfortable or whether he went away and jerked off himself at the memory of spending an evening in the company of a big cock. Providing Brieflover is not too unattractive in other ways, I suspect that a little of both is probably true.

While I believe that Brieflover behaved a little selfishly, vainly, naively and compromised the trust of two friends, I also think that what he did was just basic human nature. We have all been guilty of these less attractive human attributes. I think it may be a bit hard on him to suppose that what he did was so heinous a crime.

Do his actions make him Gay? Well, I’m sure I have sometimes enjoyed the idea that women have found me attractive and flaunted the fact. I wouldn’t say that this, in itself, makes me straight, though admittedly I never had a wank over it. I would guess that if Dave had had enough desire or courage to seize the moment, Brieflover would have put up little resistance. Is this Gay? By my definition he was gay… at least for that evening! He, on the other hand is free to define his sexuality by whatever label he wishes and if that involves some self-delusion, he will not be alone in deluding himself. So be it.

I think the truth of the matter is that one can only be defined as gay or straight according to one’s desire or willingness to identify with either term. Human sexuality is far too diverse and complex to be limited to one of two possibilities; and ‘bisexuality’ amounts to a convenient term for anyone who has either not made up their mind or is unwilling to identify with too polarised a definition. Ultimately we are just people with a world of possibilities open to us all. Gay/Straight/Bi are just labels.

Since the OP has been subject to so much debate and criticism, I would be very interested to hear him respond to some of it. I would also be keen to see a picture of the offending eight-and-a-half inches that have created so much fuss. How about it brief-lover?:wink:
 

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Well, I've known people who flash, and that can be harmless.
But the OP seemed to want to humiliate.
That said, today I'm not as bothered as I was yesterday.

My intent had nothing to do with humiliation and everything to do with lust. A much better motivation.
 

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This strikes so many chords with me.

I think the truth of the matter is that one can only be defined as gay or straight according to one’s desire or willingness to identify with either term. Human sexuality is far too diverse and complex to be limited to one of two possibilities

This was a thoughtful post with much to admire in it. Just wanted you to know that it got read. Sometimes comment on these longer, deeper posts get lost in the shuffle of one-liners back and forth, but they are appreciated nonetheless.
 

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I have been in a few similiar situations. I lived with straight twins for several years, both very outgoing who made friends with the neighbors quite easily. I was always known as their gay roomate. Well anyway I was having a few beers with my next door neighbor one day alone, just him and I. He begins to hint around with me after awhile and before I knew it he was shedding his cloths and wants to have sex with me. Now I only knew this guy as a friendly,yes attractive though a bit on the red neck side neighbor. Let me just say very doable. At that time and the situation as it was presented to me just plain weirded me out. Now I know this guy was straight but got loosened up with the alcohol and thought he could get a easy BJ just because I was gay.I gracefully bowed went home. I never treated him any differently when i would see him after that. Comes to make me think brieflover69 may have been thinking along the same lines.
 

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It's the sexual ambiguity that makes the scenario so vexing Yes, we are all sensual and erotic beings, and we have times where we want to express our sensual natures.The difference here is that we don't know brieflover69's intentions beyond a gratuitous self-esteem boost by sexual teasing. For that brief moment of titilation, there's potentially several minutes to hours of awkwardness after the fact. It's the friendship dynamic between the two that briefslover69 ultimately should consider. Does he want to be a friend or just a tease?

I wonder if brieflover69 has run away after this feedback? He's gone silent?
 

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You guys who are slamming the straight guy for teasing his gay friend need to lighten up. Nothing wrong with some homo-erotic fun between friends - who better to mess around with. I'm sure the guy knows his friend well enough to read the situation and figured his friend would enjoy the show as much as he did giving it. And I'm sure the friend went home and jacked off too.
Maybe next time with the help of a few beers they can take it to the next level, but you gotta start somewhere. Then maybe the "straight" guy will have to broaden his definition of his own sexuality (80% straight?)

And for you guys who don't find this scenario very sexy, maybe you should broaden your own definition of what's "hot".

Just my HEHO, Homo Erotic Humble Opinion. ;-)


I couldn't agree LESS with Dilf actually.

I think that people who recently "come out" are probably confused, scared nervous, etc. What the OP did, was probably hurt the friend intellectually.

Think about it. Here is a guy who is gay and his "Friend" invites him over to watch movies only to be sexually harassed and teased. IT is like dangling meat infront of a starving dog.

I am not saying that all gay men jump at the chance to have cock, ANY cock... but this gay guy may have been struggling with emotions towards this friend and chances are good he is now confused more.

I ask this question to the people who have trouble understanding why this was a MIND FUCK.

"Would you do the exact same thing if your friend was a woman?"

Chances are good you wouldn't because you would probably get in trouble/charged.

In fantasyland, it is "hot" because there is no reprocussions. Chances are good the "story" would have ended with the "straight" friend getting a BJ/fucking the gay friend so hard up the ass that the neighbours could feel it. This is Real Life. Try to be considerate of others, if you please.
 

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Exactly!


I couldn't agree LESS with Dilf actually.

I ask this question to the people who have trouble understanding why this was a MIND FUCK.

"Would you do the exact same thing if your friend was a woman?"

Chances are good you wouldn't because you would probably get in trouble/charged.
 

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If any straight friend, hell, if any gay friend did to me what the OP did to his "friend" he wouldn't be my friend any longer.

It shows an overall lack of respect to the victim because that's exactly what he turned his friend into. That's what bothers me the most about this.

The mental image I have of the OP is now that of Snidley Whiplash. Gleefully rubbing his hangs together thinking of how he can make his "friend" uncomfortable and embarassed all for the OP's personal pleasure.

And don't get me wrong. People can be in embarassing situations, uncomfortable and still get sexually aroused.

I also find it very interesting that the OP hasn't posted on this thread since initiating it. Makes me wonder 1) if it really happened and 2) why he's not defending his actions. He seemed pretty proud of it.
 

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What was the point of doing that?

It's difficult for gay guys to keep straight friends because a lot of straight friends aren't comfortable around them. This was flat out gay. Very, very, gay.

Now he's wondering what the point of that all was and he's probably worried your mutual friend blabbed about him being gay and now he discovers not only are you not straight but you're hitting on him? Or are you gay baiting him so you'd have an excuse to beat the shit out of him or worse in your own home? This is a very real fear of gays because it happens. Often.

Don't think that just because he's gay he think's you're hot too. Contrary to popular belief, gay guys won't have sex with anything that has a dick and having sex with your friends is a really good way to fuck-up a friendship. Most gay guys go way out of their way to remove any trace of sexual attraction to their straight friends if only to prove a gay guy can be, "one of the guys," just like anyone else. It takes effort because he's always working to prove that he's your friend to be a friend, not a sex partner. The last thing he needed was this. It's like waving heroin in a recovering addict's face. Of course, all this assumes he's attracted to you, which he may not be at all.

This was not a good move. He needs an explanation once you've worked out in your own head what it was you wanted. I don't think you realized just what kind of position you've put him in.

Treat your friends better than that.
Bravo, and well said.
.. I am 63, and have always had a policy. "friends don't fuck, it complicates the friendship"
.. Now 'dave' not onl;y has to consider if you were comming on to him, but if YOU are gay, and what he should or should not do about it. And that includes talking to others about what happened. You put your self, and a friend in a bad position.
.. This is why all my life I have made sure my straight friends know I am Gay, and am NOT interested.
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I'm with Jeffy. The newly gay guy is probably confused enough as it is. So, the OP shouldn't also be surprised if the gay guy starts thinking there's going to be a repeat, or even expecting something more, if he's at all interested, that is.

Additionally... No, actually, I'm also with umma... :splat: I think I still see some brain on the wall over there that I need to go clean up. :rolleyes:
 

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